US Presidential Election 2020

ExMachina1000 · 09-09-2020 05:04PM

As the election draws closer Trumps chances seem to be improving consistently.

The upcoming debates should highlight bidens
alleged cognitive issues and push Trump that little bit closer or perhaps even ahead

Timberrrrrrrr · 09-09-2020 05:05PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

As the election draws closer Trumps chances seem to be improving consistently.

The upcoming debates should highlight bidens
alleged cognitive issues and push Trump that little bit closer or perhaps even ahead

Alleged by whom? Do you have any fears about Trumps "cognitive issues"?

droidus · 09-09-2020 05:12PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

As the election draws closer Trumps chances seem to be improving consistently.

The upcoming debates should highlight bidens
alleged cognitive issues and push Trump that little bit closer or perhaps even ahead

Yeah, thats not true. Biden up +9 in today's yougov poll, +12 nationally in both the USC tracker and Ipsos and broadly up in all the swing states.

WRT cognitive issues - it would be crazy to deny that Biden has problems there, but at the same time, he can at least walk down a ramp and drink a glass of water with one hand.

everlast75 · 09-09-2020 05:19PM

The revelations just keep on coming.

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1303723191689510916?s=20

Having them on tape won't make any difference to MAGA supporters. After all, having Trump on tape saying McCain was a loser didn't make a blind bit of difference.

Brian? · 09-09-2020 05:19PM

Water John wrote: »

If I remember right, Clinton's odds of winning was 85% and Trump's was 15% and he beat the odds.

It was 71/29 on fivethirtyeight. Clinton was slightly favoured to win.

Brian? · 09-09-2020 05:24PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

As the election draws closer Trumps chances seem to be improving consistently.

The upcoming debates should highlight bidens
alleged cognitive issues and push Trump that little bit closer or perhaps even ahead

Improving? That's categorically incorrect. Last week he had a 31% chance, now he has a 26% chance. Biden has gone from slightly favoured to favoured on the 538 model.

The model that predicted 49/50 states correctly last time out.

ExMachina1000 · 09-09-2020 05:24PM

everlast75 wrote: »

The revelations just keep on coming.

https://twitter.com/CNNPolitics/status/1303723191689510916?s=20

Having them on tape won't make any difference to MAGA supporters. After all, having Trump on tape saying McCain was a loser didn't make a blind bit of difference.

They are really pulling them out of the back of the wardrobe now. Desperation season has begun.

Nothing will stick.
Trump is teflon. Biden is flannel

Brian? · 09-09-2020 05:28PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

They are really pulling them out of the back of the wardrobe now. Desperation season has begun.

Nothing will stick.
Trump is teflon. Biden is flannel

Have you ever tried looking at data instead of basing your opinion on feeling? I think you should have a look here:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

A few weeks ago I was worried Trump was going to close the gap and win. I am still worried it could happen, but every week I get less worried.

ExMachina1000 · 09-09-2020 05:31PM

Brian? wrote: »

Have you ever tried looking at data instead of basing your opinion on feeling? I think you should have a look here:

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/

A few weeks ago I was worried Trump was going to close the gap and win. I am still worried it could happen, but every week I get less worried.

I wouldn't be worried either way. I don't really rate that website

09-09-2020 05:31PM

Timberrrrrrrr wrote: »

Alleged by whom? Do you have any fears about Trumps "cognitive issues"?

Infowars are pushing that line which is pretty telling...

TomOnBoard · 09-09-2020 05:48PM

everlast75 wrote: »

Mr. "I may pump $100 million into my own re-election campaign" is pulling resources from the Government to defend himself against a rape allegation too..

https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1303474224506511360?s=19

This is ****ing bizarre **** and is truly out there in terms of bat**** crazy, bad drugs nightmare scenarios that Mad Max land would have thought too far-fetched to contemplate.

Like, you have a sexual assault victim who was allegedly defamed by her attacker, and is bringing a CIVIL case against that attacker, AND the attacker is trying to use the Government to shield his actions by bringing the ENTIRE WEIGHT of the Justice system down on the victim 's head, clearly designed to intimidate her! And Billl Barr is up to his neck in it!

'Merica, Wake the **** Up!!! This must not be allowed to stand!

Quin_Dub · 09-09-2020 05:52PM

TomOnBoard wrote: »

This is ****ing bizarre **** and is truly out there in terms of bat**** crazy, bad drugs nightmare scenarios that Mad Max land would have thought too far-fetched to contemplate.

Like, you have a sexual assault victim who was allegedly defamed by her attacker, and is bringing a CIVIL case against that attacker, AND the attacker is trying to use the Government to shield his actions by bringing the ENTIRE WEIGHT of the Justice system down on the victim 's head, clearly designed to intimidate her! And Billl Barr is up to his neck in it!

'Merica, Wake the **** Up!!! This must not be allowed to stand!

The thing is , it won't stand , they know it won't stand , but that's not the point.

Like every other legal tactic by Trump it's not about winning in court - He almost never ever does.

It's about delaying things so much that the other side gives up , or in the this case , the case gets delayed out to beyond the Election.

Barr is absolutely complicit is using the DOJ to facilitate this and he should be held accountable

duploelabs · 09-09-2020 05:53PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Infowars are pushing that line which is pretty telling...

Not to mention that it's also a planted russian story by the IRA (not the 'Ra)

droidus · 09-09-2020 06:04PM

Lads, Biden is not all there, there's a ton of video evidence to back this up. just because its being pushed by the right and conspiracists, doesn't mean it isn't true.

https://youtu.be/gXvwumYE7_s

Podge_irl · 09-09-2020 06:17PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I wouldn't be worried either way. I don't really rate that website

You don't rate the website that rated Trump's chances of victory in 2016 higher than pretty much everyone else?

everlast75 · 09-09-2020 06:21PM

droidus wrote: »

Lads, Biden is not all there, there's a ton of video evidence to back this up. just because its being pushed by the right and conspiracists, doesn't mean it isn't true.

https://youtu.be/gXvwumYE7_s

Nuke a hurricane.

Windmills give you cancer.

Sharpie a map.

Stare into the sun.

Hamburder. Covfefe.

Never mind Person. Woman. Man. Camera. TV.

I'll go with Pot. Kettle. Black.

Chips Lovell · 09-09-2020 06:23PM

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Drop the "Biden is senile/Biden has cognitive issues" posts please. If medical evidence of such comes out, then it becomes an election talking point, but until then, it's not.

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Chips Lovell · 09-09-2020 06:35PM

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everlast75 · 09-09-2020 06:37PM

https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/1303745068709355521?s=19

This is Comical Ali stuff. Tanks rolling down the road behind while insisting "everything is fine!"

Brian? · 09-09-2020 06:40PM

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

I wouldn't be worried either way. I don't really rate that website

Why don't you rate it? The model has been proven to be pretty accurate repeatedly.

Chips Lovell · 09-09-2020 07:16PM

Mod Note

Final warning. Drop the "cognitive issues" line. That applies to all candidates.

Igotadose · 09-09-2020 07:24PM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

The thing is , it won't stand , they know it won't stand , but that's not the point.

Like every other legal tactic by Trump it's not about winning in court - He almost never ever does.

It's about delaying things so much that the other side gives up , or in the this case , the case gets delayed out to beyond the Election.

Barr is absolutely complicit is using the DOJ to facilitate this and he should be held accountable

Interesting analysis here in Slate: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2020/09/e-jean-carroll-trump-doj-response.html

Basically, the DOJ is stating Trump's actions in the past, are immune from lawsuit now, because he's President. Cool, eh? President Biden, should that come to pass, can't be sued for anything done previously as they would be 'Presidential Acts' by the curious interpretation the DOJ is pulling.

And this other tidbit is great from that article: "At long last, Trump’s defenders are formally acknowledging that the sexual predator on the Access Hollywood tape is who the president really is"

Definitely worth the read. And, I agree this is all about delay delay delay. I expect that if the case lingers into 2021 (likely) and the #IMPOTUS is mercifully no longer the President, the lawsuits will fly fast and thick.

Water John · 09-09-2020 08:43PM

Biden comes out strongly and supports Irl and Withdrawal Agreement.

MadYaker · 10-09-2020 10:12AM

Brian? wrote: »

Why don't you rate it? The model has been proven to be pretty accurate repeatedly.

It’s because it’s not telling him the things he wants to hear.

Brussels Sprout · 10-09-2020 10:24AM

https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1303896652965584896

Those Woodward tape quotes are pretty bad. I'm not naive enough to think it's going to affect the vast majority of Trump voters but it doesn't have it. It just needs to sway a small % of undecided in a few key states.

duploelabs · 10-09-2020 10:37AM

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1303896652965584896

Those Woodward tape quotes are pretty bad. I'm not naive enough to think it's going to affect the vast majority of Trump voters but it doesn't have it. It just needs to sway a small % of undecided in a few key states.

Don't forget the caravan coming up to the border that we supposedly had for the house and senate elections two years ago

everlast75 · 10-09-2020 11:11AM

Brussels Sprout wrote: »

https://twitter.com/jonfavs/status/1303896652965584896

Those Woodward tape quotes are pretty bad. I'm not naive enough to think it's going to affect the vast majority of Trump voters but it doesn't have it. It just needs to sway a small % of undecided in a few key states.

Tucker's threw Lindsey Graham under the bus last night.

So Tucker's question is not..
"Why did Trump do this horrible thing?"

His question is..
"Who let Trump admit to doing this horrible thing?"

EltonJohn69 · 10-09-2020 11:24AM

everlast75 wrote: »

Tucker's threw Lindsey Graham under the bus last night.

So Tucker's question is not..
"Why did Trump do this horrible thing?"

His question is..
"Who let Trump admit to doing this horrible thing?"

Horrible thing = let Trump do an interview ?? Ha ha ha

Quin_Dub · 10-09-2020 11:36AM

everlast75 wrote: »

Tucker's threw Lindsey Graham under the bus last night.

So Tucker's question is not..
"Why did Trump do this horrible thing?"

His question is..
"Who let Trump admit to doing this horrible thing?"

Hannity went for a different angle.

He tried the "Trump is like FDR" approach.

He actually (mis)quoted FDR saying "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" and tried to say that Trump was adhering to that mantra by lying to everyone so that they wouldn't fear fear or something..

The chyron while he was spouting that guff was "Hannitys History Lesson"!!!!

everlast75 · 10-09-2020 11:37AM

Quin_Dub wrote: »

Hannity went for a different angle.

He tried the "Trump is like FDR" approach.

He actually (mis)quoted FDR saying "We have nothing to fear but fear itself" and tried to say that Trump was adhering to that mantra by lying to everyone so that they wouldn't fear fear or something..

The chyron while he was spouting that guff was "Hannitys History Lesson"!!!!

Yep! Trump is all about making sure people don't panic. That's credible....

US Presidential Election 2020

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