Shooting Forum - Firearms licencing information

minktrapper · 28-08-2020 09:15PM

Asus1 wrote: »

Its 1 licence for every calibre is it not.So if i got a quad I'd have to licence each caliber individually e.g 22lr 1 licence 22wmr 1 licence 17hmr 1 licence so three licences in total.

One for .22 and another for .17. So one licence should cover the.22 LR and .22 WMR. On the licence only the calibre is stated not the type of bullet.

garv123 · 29-08-2020 07:08AM

minktrapper wrote: »

One for .22 and another for .17. So one licence should cover the.22 LR and .22 WMR. On the licence only the calibre is stated not the type of bullet.

Thats incorrect, unfortunately things aren't that simple here. just because it says .22 does not mean you can have both barrels.

minktrapper · 29-08-2020 11:12AM

I could be wrong.

Zxthinger · 31-08-2020 07:09AM

garv123 wrote: »

Thats incorrect, unfortunately things aren't that simple here. just because it says .22 does not mean you can have both barrels.

Myself and many many others know that it is a contested issue by those that error on the side of safety. However calibre is the metric by which the items are governed and the nomenclature of chambering is ignored.
Furthermore it is only an infringement of the statute to increase the calibre thus it is hypothetically correct to assume that a smaller calibre could be covered or even should be covered by the larger of the two
i.e. 22 vs 17

minktrapper · 31-08-2020 09:20AM

Zxthinger wrote: »

Myself and many many others know that it is a contested issue by those that error on the side of safety. However calibre is the metric by which the items are governed and the nomenclature of chambering is ignored.
Furthermore it is only an infringement of the statute to increase the calibre thus it is hypothetically correct to assume that a smaller calibre could be covered or even should be covered by the larger of the two
i.e. 22 vs 17

Could you explain that to the masses in english.

minktrapper · 31-08-2020 09:22AM

Zxthinger wrote: »

Myself and many many others know that it is a contested issue by those that error on the side of safety. However calibre is the metric by which the items are governed and the nomenclature of chambering is ignored.
Furthermore it is only an infringement of the statute to increase the calibre thus it is hypothetically correct to assume that a smaller calibre could be covered or even should be covered by the larger of the two
i.e. 22 vs 17

Could you explain that to the people that are not so intellectually inclined.

Feisar · 31-08-2020 12:33PM

One up for sale there now.

Zxthinger · 01-09-2020 05:50PM

minktrapper wrote: »

Could you explain that to the people that are not so intellectually inclined.

The statute book describes or categorises long rifled firearms by calibre and makes no distinction related to the chambering of the firearm.
I.e. A 223 is .22 cal, a 22-250 is 22cal a 22lr is a 22cal a 22swift is a 22cal and a 22hornet is a 22cal
If I'm theory you changed you chambering from a 223 to a 223 wssm then there would be no issue.
If you applied for a CZ 452 in 22lr and a CZ 527 in 220 swift then you be correct to infer that you are seeking a .22 rifle.

Some are rimfire some are centrefire and some are hot..

Someone will be along shortly to dismiss this but this how it's worth up in the big book.

Zxthinger · 01-09-2020 05:52PM

Anyway. Does anyone know if 22wmr rat shot can be obtained or if 50grain ammo is available.
Also wasn't subsonic ammo touted by some as being officially available.

The pigeon man · 01-09-2020 08:09PM

I have .22 inch on my license. I applied for a .22 cal so I'd say if you have that on the license anything in 22 is okay.

I'd be interested to hear some of the more legal opinions on this.

Feisar · 01-09-2020 08:39PM

Zxthinger wrote: »

Anyway. Does anyone know if 22wmr rat shot can be obtained or if 50grain ammo is available.
Also wasn't subsonic ammo touted by some as being officially available.

The 50 grain stuff is available in Outdoor Sports in Mullingar. Google tells me there is a Winchester 45 grain sub available. One would think they’d max out on the weight when going subsonic. Probably a stabilisation issue like the Aguila 60 grain 22LRs needing a tighter twist than normal LRs to perform. Only ever seen LR rat shot.

Was also looking at the 200 yard wind drift on a typical WMR vs Subsonic LR. I thought the Magnum would have overcome the drift issues of HV LR ammo but apparently not!

minktrapper · 02-09-2020 04:20PM

Zxthinger wrote: »

Anyway. Does anyone know if 22wmr rat shot can be obtained or if 50grain ammo is available.
Also wasn't subsonic ammo touted by some as being officially available.

WMR rat shot is made but I can't say where it can be purchased. If you ever come across some please let me know.

Savage93 · 03-09-2020 07:15PM

Asus1 wrote: »

Well a while ago i was thinking of getting rid of the 10/22 and getting a 17hmr,reason being I could shoot a fox at a greater distance and have a bit more power than the 22lr.Now i dont do alot of fox shooting,ive really only shot what has decided it takes a fancy to my poultry so i don't see the need for a centrefire rifle
I'm thinking that as i could probably get a whole wmr package second hand for under €400 is it an acceptable 100/120y fox rifle.Im going to keep the 22lr rifle as i like the odd bit of silent plinking and was thinking as the wmr has gone out of fashion I could pick up a bargain for the few fox a year I shoot.
This topic has probably been done to death but with the new ballistic tip magnum rounds now available is it a suitable sub 150y humane round or am I looking at a small centrefire.

I have a complete foxing set up for sale at present, see my ad.

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