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Oceans 11 Werewolf Game Thread

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  • #2102
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Mary WW wrote: »
    i thought i'm a dead cert wolf in your eyes. why not me?

    Why not you tonight? Are you kidding me?


  • #2103
    Mary WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭Mary WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    Why not you tonight? Are you kidding me?

    not necessarily tonight.

    but you're after saying if nigel flips green, then it should be Abigail or cloadgh next.

    I want to know why not me, as i'm a wolf according to you?


  • #2104
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Mary WW wrote: »
    not necessarily tonight.

    but you're after saying if nigel flips green, then it should be Abigail or cloadgh next.

    I want to know why not me, as i'm a wolf according to you?

    Ok I will play along.

    See if Nigel is good, Abi is lying.

    You are suspcious based off the voting pattern yesterday.

    Abi lying would more strongly suggest shes a wolf more than you.

    It doesnt mean your not a wolf though and youd be next.

    Satisfied ?


  • #2105
    Steve WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Steve WW


    Interesting that Barbara placed a vote but made no comment in thread.


  • #2106
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Steve WW wrote: »
    Interesting that Barbara placed a vote but made no comment in thread.

    Interesting alright!


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  • #2107
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Steve WW wrote: »
    Interesting that Barbara placed a vote but made no comment in thread.

    Why ?


  • #2108
    Abigail WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Steve WW wrote: »
    Interesting that Barbara placed a vote but made no comment in thread.

    So just the three wolves yet to vote. That’s nice that they’re sticking together


  • #2109
    Mary WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭Mary WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    Ok I will play along.

    See if Nigel is good, Abi is lying.

    You are suspcious based off the voting pattern yesterday.

    Abi lying would more strongly suggest shes a wolf more than you.

    It doesnt mean your not a wolf though and youd be next.

    Satisfied ?

    somewhat. where does clodagh come into the nigel/abigail thing?

    i've said from day 2 that nigel should be lynched cos it would reveal the most into re vote patterns.

    i suppose lets lynch someone and go from there.


  • #2110
    Mary WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 2,886 ✭✭✭Mary WW


    Abigail WW wrote: »
    So just the three wolves yet to vote. That’s nice that they’re sticking together

    how do you know there's 3?


  • #2111
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Steve WW wrote: »
    I'm very confused also by the whole saving Nigel thing and how lynching him clears people?? Don't see any logic to that at all
    Barbara WW wrote: »
    None? In a one team game and heavy spread of votes?
    Steve WW wrote: »
    Nope. I'm wary of anyone is voting for someone in order to paint themselves in a 'good light' like Abigail seems to be suggesting. We're trying to catch wolves, not appear to be the top villager
    Barbara WW wrote: »
    This is your second attempt to help out Nigel, im moving my vote there as a result. He's bad, your bad IMO
    Steve WW wrote: »
    How on earth is this my second attempt to help Nigel? Making up things to suit yourself Barb
    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Your late self pres vote could also be seen as an attempt to help out Nigel, im voting Nigel, don't worry, we can deal with you in the aftermath

    Steve obviously hasnt gotten over the conversation from the other night, I indicated his N1 late switch actually helped Nigel a bit aswell as his defence of him above on N2 when I was trying to put a bit of pressure on him. I didnt like Nigel then, Steve didnt see the merit in lynching him. I still dont love his role claim but he can be resolved later in the game but the fact he was off the Katie wagon aswell keeps me suspicious of him to be honest. Just want it out there


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  • #2112
    Steve WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Steve WW


    Barbara WW wrote: »
    Steve obviously hasnt gotten over the conversation from the other night, I indicated his N1 late switch actually helped Nigel a bit aswell as his defence of him above on N2 when I was trying to put a bit of pressure on him. I didnt like Nigel then, Steve didnt see the merit in lynching him. I still dont love his role claim but he can be resolved later in the game but the fact he was off the Katie wagon aswell keeps me suspicious of him to be honest. Just want it out there

    Not sure what there is to get over exactly? I'v repeatedly explained to you that what you're referring to as a 'late night switch' is a reformatted vote for Rikand's counter. I didn't change my vote at any stage. The fact that you're choosing to ignore that repeatedly is just strange to be honest.

    Yeah I didn't see the merit in lynching him then, but a lot has changed since then and I believe Abigail's claim. Nigel wouldn't have been where I would be voting today in absence of that claim.

    I still think you're clutching at straws here Babs. Maybe it's you we should be looking at tomorrow.


  • #2113
    Steve WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,236 ✭✭✭Steve WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    Why ?

    always suspiscious of people who cast votes without appearing in thread.
    Nice of Barbara to do a genie act when I brought it up


  • #2114
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Steve WW wrote: »
    Not sure what there is to get over exactly? I'v repeatedly explained to you that what you're referring to as a 'late night switch' is a reformatted vote for Rikand's counter. I didn't change my vote at any stage. The fact that you're choosing to ignore that repeatedly is just strange to be honest.

    Yeah I didn't see the merit in lynching him then, but a lot has changed since then and I believe Abigail's claim. Nigel wouldn't have been where I would be voting today in absence of that claim.

    I still think you're clutching at straws here Babs. Maybe it's you we should be looking at tomorrow.

    You had me as a wolf lean earlier this morning so why havent you looked into me more since then? I have nothing to hide, work away! I am pointing out that you werent on the wolf wagon last night and didnt want to pursue Nigel the night before, these are relevant and factual pieces of information.

    For the record, you are probably 4th on my wolf list which I posted earlier, I just wanted to highlight my points again should I be brown bread in the morning


  • #2115
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Steve WW wrote: »
    always suspiscious of people who cast votes without appearing in thread.
    Nice of Barbara to do a genie act when I brought it up

    So am I

    I seen the reveal (Abis) and cast a vote a vote. I reread the thread as I had only skimmed, have hardly been online so wanted to see what was happening. Answer is nothing much


  • #2116
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Steve WW wrote: »
    always suspiscious of people who cast votes without appearing in thread.
    Nice of Barbara to do a genie act when I brought it up

    To be fair she can read the Abi v Nigel story and vote. It woukd be obvious why shes voting no.


  • #2117
    Abigail WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Mary WW wrote: »
    how do you know there's 3?

    I’ve always thought there’ll be five wolves.

    As I’ve said to you already the voting on D1 suggests you and Nigel are a team. Once Nigel flips red then you have to go, you’ve even acknowledged that it looks terrible for you.

    Then if there’s a wolf left I see it as being between Oisin and Barbara, I said as much this morning. Oisin’s defence of Nigel this morning would lead me to check there first

    I believe Steve, I think he’ll protect me tonite. I believe Clodagh who I think should block you. And I believe Gabriel who I think should follow Oisin. I believe Phil, lots of detail on his story. Likewise with Frank.

    Wendy seems to have resolved herself, her story has checked out as far as I’m concerned

    Of course there may only be two left or there may be four left


  • #2118
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Abigail WW wrote: »
    I’ve always thought there’ll be five wolves.

    As I’ve said to you already the voting on D1 suggests you and Nigel are a team. Once Nigel flips red then you have to go, you’ve even acknowledged that it looks terrible for you.

    Then if there’s a wolf left I see it as being between Oisin and Barbara, I said as much this morning. Oisin’s defence of Nigel this morning would lead me to check there first

    I believe Steve, I think he’ll protect me tonite. I believe Clodagh who I think should block you. And I believe Gabriel who I think should follow Oisin. I believe Phil, lots of detail on his story. Likewise with Frank.

    Wendy seems to have resolved herself, her story has checked out as far as I’m concerned

    Of course there may only be two left or there may be four left

    If you believe Steve, then you believe Frank by proxy. Wolves wont target themselves.


  • #2119
    Oisin WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭Oisin WW


    Ill be voting Nigel. If he flips good then onto Abi. I don't buy the bussing theory with Nigel and Abi


  • #2120
    Oisin WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭Oisin WW


    Abigail WW wrote: »
    I’ve always thought there’ll be five wolves.

    As I’ve said to you already the voting on D1 suggests you and Nigel are a team. Once Nigel flips red then you have to go, you’ve even acknowledged that it looks terrible for you.

    Then if there’s a wolf left I see it as being between Oisin and Barbara, I said as much this morning. Oisin’s defence of Nigel this morning would lead me to check there first

    Which defence was this Abi?


  • #2121
    Abigail WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Gabriel WW wrote: »
    If you believe Steve, then you believe Frank by proxy. Wolves wont target themselves.

    Ya believe both


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  • #2122
    Gabriel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 4,132 ✭✭✭Gabriel WW


    Abigail WW wrote: »
    Ya believe both

    I do. Ive no reason whatsoever to doubt either Steve or Frank


  • #2123
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    4 with the convert seems more likely however given they had a vig in play too, 5 possibly given the number of roles particularly Henrys one!


  • #2124
    Nigel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    Lying about what?

    I blocked nigel last night. What am I supposed to be lying about?

    Ok so that explains why I couldn’t shoot Mary


  • #2125
    Abigail WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    Oisin WW wrote: »
    So Nigel has been on your raddar since D1. So why havent you peeked him?



    Monster role is this is the case
    Oisin WW wrote: »
    I am having trouble completely believing Abis role claim. It seems to be an insanely power role.

    Having said that it does self resolve.

    Go Nigel and then see how he flips.

    Mary is still the hairiest of the lot anyway.


    I would consider both of these a defence of Nigel


  • #2126
    Abigail WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,194 ✭✭✭Abigail WW


    I will say that on reading back it is a very soft defence and I may have felt it was stronger because I was in the middle of a back and forth with Nigel.


    Nigel’s claim that he tried to shoot Mary is hilarious


  • #2127
    Oisin WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 1,540 ✭✭✭Oisin WW


    Yeah i think defence is a very strong word for those examples.

    The more he posts now the worse he looks though.

    What happened when you "shot" Mary then Nige? Indulge us. One last attempt to throw us off your buddy?

    Good spot from Clodagh.


  • #2128
    Nigel WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,864 ✭✭✭Nigel WW


    Abigail WW wrote: »
    I will say that on reading back it is a very soft defence and I may have felt it was stronger because I was in the middle of a back and forth with Nigel.


    Nigel’s claim that he tried to shoot Mary is hilarious

    Still don’t get your endgame here abi. You peek village but you cant be village with this play so what’s the play here.

    11 left so worst case that looks like 8 v 3
    Lynch me and a munch is 6 v 3 but you get lynched next
    What’s the twist here to win from there?


  • #2129
    Clodagh WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,258 ✭✭✭Clodagh WW


    Nigel WW wrote: »
    Ok so that explains why I couldn’t shoot Mary

    I thought you were ignoring the info from my earlier post.
    Clodagh WW wrote: »
    It’s plausible, but i was the only person out of 6 who even tried to self pres, so, maybe others just dont bother.

    Btw, nigel was blocked last night, so whatever power he could do, he wasnt doing it last night. My last post this morning telegraphs that.


  • #2130
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    I kinda keep forgetting about Oisin so I decided to have a look at his interactions with the dead wolves
    Oisin WW wrote: »
    Right so here is what I have on some of the players so far guys.

    Gabriel: Im not sure if they are intentionally being obtuse or really genuinely asking the asking they are but ive had the exact same conversation with her today as I did Vernon yesterday. Answering questions by asking some of her own. Don’t like either of these types of play. Creates more traffic to get through and helps wolves to hide. Really don’t like it. Not going to say wolf but not leaning good anyway.

    Henry: Really don’t know what to make of him. His story changes every hour. First he knows 3 Holly voters were goodies. Then he has 1 confirmed wolf. Then he thinks he has 2 confirmed wolves with Mary. Then just claims that Mary is good and that is all. So he could be a wolf playing a mad suicide game and just doing his best to confuse the village (which would be working to be honest). I’m not sure he is though. As someone said (I think Abi) before theres always a player like that and then when they flip good we are all asking why they bothered playing like that. I lean this way. That is not to say he is any use to the village though.

    Mary: The thing that sticks out with Mary for me is how she managed to go from “how could I possibly have a good list this early” to “at least 4 out of the 5 players who had 2/3 votes last night are good”. That is quite the turnaround. Do not like it at all.

    Clodagh: I like the constant accusatory tone. I’m not sure a wolf would be that brazen about getting into non stop confrontations. Also made a lot of sense when discussing Mary’s idea that players can be essentially confirmed good after the lynch. Then makes the point that Nigel is “cleaner than Frank” but not necessarily “clean”. This is important as anyone who at this stage is clearing people (with the exception of Henry the madman) is very suspect IMO.

    Which leads me onto…..Frank: The idea of lynching the Holly voters in order to clear people based of the musings of Henry is pure madness and completely a odds with what the village should be doing at this stage. Very dodgy lean.

    Steve: Me old pal Steve. Definitely soften on him today for the simple reason that he was earlier calling Frank out about his idea of “clearing” people based off Henry’s word. And based off his interaction with Gabs earlier on I would definitely lean good for him ahead of Gabs.

    That’s all the time I’ve had. Will try and add a few to that before 6.

    If I’d to do an FFA right now it would be :
    Gabs
    Mary
    Frank
    His first mention of Nigel was yesterday and even then its in reference to Clodaghs assessment of Nigel being cleaner than Frank
    Oisin WW wrote: »
    So Nigel has been on your raddar since D1. So why havent you peeked him?



    Monster role is this is the case



    Everything is possible but in my mind there is not a snowsballs chance in hell that Gabs wouldve done that
    Sceptical of Abis role claim in his next mention today
    Oisin WW wrote: »
    I need to go shortly guys. Here are my leans

    Strong Village: Gabriel, Wendy, Clodagh

    Probable Village: Steve, Frank, Abi, Katie

    No Idea: Phil, Vern, Nige, Babs

    Wolf Lean: Henry

    Strong Wolf: Mary

    First mention of Katie was yesterday around lunchtime were he had her probably village
    Oisin WW wrote: »
    Well hello there Katie.

    I explained why I thought it could be a wolf tactic to try and attract lynches. It would waste the villages time and lynch. I’m not in lockstep with the theory(as I already said) but it is absolutely plausible.

    And on Mary- I believe that I posted my thoughts on her first. I’ve been very consistent in my opinions of her

    Babs did this the other day aswel actually. She posted very similar thoughts about Steve as I had already done. Then accused me of being pockety.

    Youre doing the same here with Mary
    A little disagreement with Katie over her being pocketey
    Oisin WW wrote: »
    We don’t know if Frank was attacked though.

    I agree with your earlier post that it doesn’t have to be an “either, or” when it comes to Katie and Phil.

    Katie is making her way into my dodgy pile though for the guff she posted about me following her with regards Mary
    Katie is moving into his dodgy pile however says its not an either or with Katie and Phil. This was a bit hedgy at the time
    Oisin WW wrote: »
    Each to their own. But yeah if Katie is lynched we will learn a something from how she flips
    If Katie is lynched, we learn something new but he votes Mary still on his toblerone, he did say she was his biggest wolf lean to be fair.
    Oisin WW wrote: »
    Afternoon all. Im working nights now for the rest of the week so will be tough to keep up but ill do my best.

    I've read back from last nights and here are my thoughts:

    First off anyone claiming they (or others) are %100 per cent lock clear should be under suspicion. Frank and Mary i'm looking at you. Mary is without a doubt top of my wolf list now. Steves apparent protection of Frank look good but again we cannot blindly follow here say from just two people.

    The one I have top of my village list is now Gabs. The Orla follow worked a treat. Catch a wolf, kill a wolf as the old saying goes. A big change from my opinions yesterday but I cannot see a play where a wolf would bus a teammate so early on.

    Henry's madness would appear to make more sense if he is Terry. Trying to get the village to waste lynches on him as he had his two goons. Now he doesnt hes gone quiet.

    Spotted Clodaghs code very early on and would have her in my good books. It isnt concrete evidence but along with the rest of her play gives me a definite village lean.

    Wendy and the bullet...... I dunno. Saw someone suggesting it could have been a wolf ploy which could make sense. I wouldn't see it like that though. I trust her

    All in all the wolves had an absolute stinker of a night. Im glad to see the village followed Gabs and not Henry

    And his only solitary mention of Orla was after she was confirmed a wolf yesterday during the day.

    Seems to be a lack of engagement with all the dead wolves really and also Nigel.


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  • #2131
    Barbara WW
    Forum Games Player Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭Barbara WW


    Said I would do the reverse and Orla also never once mentioned Oisin which is interesting

    Katie mentioned him three times

    Once a post count
    Katie WW wrote: »
    Post count, let's see if non-show WENDY can be enticed out like Steve.


    Oisin WW 21
    Barbara WW 20
    Clodagh WW 19
    Holly WW 17
    Fiona WW 14
    Frank WW 12
    Mary WW 12
    Nigel WW 11
    Katie WW 11
    Steve WW 11
    Abigail WW 11
    Rikand 9
    Henry WW 8
    Riona WW 4
    Phil WW 2
    Orla WW 2
    Vernon WW 1
    Gabriel WW 1
    Katie WW wrote: »
    Right, here are my thoughts. Last night's lynch was the Pits-the usual Crapshoot, as predicted by a few.

    Day 1: Automated Votals from #1 to #32

    Fiona WW (1): Katie WW
    Holly WW (3): Mary WW, Steve WW, Clodagh WW
    Katie WW (1): Phil WW
    Nigel WW (2): Frank WW, Abigail WW
    Mary WW (2): Nigel WW, Holly WW
    Clodagh WW (2): Orla WW, Barbara WW
    Steve WW (2): Oisin WW, Gabriel WW
    Frank WW (1): Vernon WW
    Henry WW (1): Henry WW
    Barbara WW (1): Fiona WW
    Not voting (2): Riona WW, Wendy WW

    First things first: I voted Fiona because she was posting fluff and I didn't like her jumping on Holly on the basis of very little. I said as much yesterday.

    Initially, I suspected Steve, Nigel and Clodagh of being on a team based on last minute votes. But Steve's last min vote was actually a re-vote, because he misformatted his earlier one. Nigel didn't self-pres at all and ended up on two. Clodagh's was a self preservation vote, because he was on two.

    Seems a fair explanation; but Nigel and Clodagh might be on a team, could be village or wolf.

    Holly could move someone's vote. So if Holly wanted to move someone's vote, where would she move it to? I would say to the person she voted for: in this case, it was Mary, who would have been lynched. So the question I have is what happened that Holly couldn't move a vote to Mary? She already knew she was dead at 9.03pm:



    But I don't really know why.

    Riona and Wendy didn't vote at all.  Wendy says she has a gun, but no one has been shot; a bit weird in itself. Riona only made five or so posts and now she is dead. Only one person voted for Riona yesterday: Mary, who later said it was because she wanted her to come out and play, flimsy, but not wolfy in itself. I wonder if the wolves peeked Riona?



    Mary made a late switch to Holly, after she earlier had said Holly was the only one who she 'had as good'. When called out on it, she made a song and dance about Holly's nice list on day one, as though it was something unusual.

    Henry then comes out with contradictory statements and he and Mary get chummy. He even said he and Holly were in 'cahoots' when Holly had actually voted for him. He says he knows who the wolf is, that he can clear a bunch of villagers  and Mary tries to hammer home the point as though that's all solved then and she's in the clear with this over eager post.




    This is a statement that is backed up by nothing, Mary doesn't even respond to it. Is he saying in plain sight that he and Mary are the wolves? Too blatant surely, but then again, I don't want to be played here.

    Today Henry contradicts himself and says all he knows is Mary is good. I've pretty much given up trying to make sense of Henry; I can't believe his contradictory claims. I didn't trust him yesterday and I still can't trust him. But he could be wolf or village. He obviously needs people to vote for him for some reason so for now he might not be a safe vote. I think Mary and he might be a wolf team; but I'm more inclined to think Mary is taking advantage of the chaos of Henry to make herself look good.

    Her first posts off the bat today seem to want everyone to ignore her because she's 'cleared' by Henry.



    Her reasoning for voting for Steve earlier today is as flimsy as her vote for Riona.






    She's basically been clearing herself and the others from the night before. How could she forget? She asks Henry to come along and clarify and he comes along promptly to do so.

    She tries to hammer it home again.

    This is a theory that Mary has concocted mostly herself.

    Then she comes out with this contradictory, distraction tactic.

    This is after she voted for Steve because of some late posting.

    Here she leaps to the defense of Henry.





    Below is Abigail, Gabriel and Clodagh wondering why Frank wasn't included in her list of wolves. I don't see much indication she's in cahoots with Frank, other than Frank saying something along the lines that we should lynch/kill Clodagh and Steve and leave Mary because Henry 'cleared' her. Only Henry, Mary and Frank seem to have suggested that Henry has really cleared, or is capable of clearing, anyone. We won't really know until Henry is dead?




    Recently we have this..


    Hardly a surprise when it's all contradictory statements, chumminess with Henry and votes based on nothing. And what happened to the two wolves that Henry and Mary had solved last night?

    Some other minor thoughts:

    Clodagh: Aggressive, in a good way, mostly. I didn't understand his obsession with Barbara's 'piles' yesterday. :pac: I don't really know why he's going after Frank so strongly unless I've missed something? I'm still wondering if he's in a team with Nigel; good or bad.

    Nigel: He voted on 'gut' yesterday. I don't like 'gut' votes generally; although on day one it's common. The lack of self-pres maybe works in his favour but I'm not entirely convinced.

    Barbara: Holly and Barbara were the two I saw as village yesterday, although admittedly I didn't say so. I didn't like Barbara's hatchet job ISO on me naturally, saying I should be shot the minute I got in the thread today :pac:, so I'm not as fond of Babs as I once was.:p

    Oisin: I didn't agree with him yesterday jumping on Steve for calling out the dodgy poetry and I don't really agree with his FFA other than Mary/Henry. Other than that, not much to go on.

    Steve: Like his posts from late last night onward. Leaning good for the moment.

    Frank: Overly fond of Mary for my liking maybe, but not much to go on.

    Abigail: Nothing wolfy at all that I can see. Might be a wolf playing a good game!

    Vernon: Nothing wolfy at all. Same as above.

    Gabriel: There was just one thing really: why vote Oisin as a 'placeholder' in the lynch thread? As I understand it, isn't that backroom idiom? Could it be a mistake? I didn't like it.

    Henry: I think he might be on a team with Mary, or he could be a wolf waiting to be activated in some way; which is something I proposed yesterday. The other possibility is he's just a mad NRV who is going to leave everyone scratching their heads after he's dead. I haven't enjoyed Henry's play but he's obviously under instructions of some sort and it might not be his fault.

    Orla, Phil and Wendy: Not much posting from these three at all. I said earlier that there could be a low-lying wolf in the low posters and I might come back to it if they don't put a shift in, although if Wendy kills a wolf, we can probably put her down as village obviously. But where has Wendy's bullet gone?

    Right folks, no one can accuse me of not doing any work.

    Going to vote Mary based on reasoning above.

    Subtle shade towards Oisin here but then wonders why Gabriel put a placeholder on Oisin
    Katie WW wrote: »
    That makes little sense. Wolves want the village whittled down. Can an alpha wolf even be protected from lynch? And what happens when village discover he can't be lynched? Wouldn't he be a bit compromised? 

    Some new reads on today's posts.

    Barbara:She said last night she was going to stay on her initial vote. Then five minutes later, switched to Orla. A bit odd perhaps. Barely posted today, but I'm pretty neutral on her.

    Nigel: Just pops in and out, with a few lines, little of substance. A non-entity. Happy to escape last night?

    Oisin: Same as above, but to a much lesser extent. Agree with him on Mary, although not sure if he's just copying my thoughts and voting Mary to help someone.

    Phil: Still not posting enough for my liking. I don't disbelieve his claim. Same as  above.

    Wendy: Just weird, humming and hawing. She didn't shoot me, I know that much. Leaning wolf 2-  after Mary.

    Henry: I'm just going to take everything he posts with a pinch of salt. I can't make sense of any of it. I suspect he might be getting frustrated because players aren't really rising to his 'lynch me' bait. Village or wolf, like some he's playing a role which we are not privy to. I'm probably never going to vote for him tbh, the rest of you can do what you want.

    Everyone else is the same or improved on yesterday, although I'm not as sure on Frank and Steve.

    Gabriel village
    Frank, Steve, Clodagh, Abigail, Vernon leaning village
    Calls him out on a lack of substance, so a little interaction with Katie and Oisin although neither actually get into with one another
    Nigel WW wrote: »
    So this is interesting

    The first table is the votes for all players:

    voter
    clodagh frank holly holly
    fiona holly barbara
    oisin steve
    holly mary henry
    henry henry holly henry
    abigal gabriel nigel
    katie fiona
    frank nigel
    steve holly holly
    gabriel oisin oisin oisin steve
    mary riona holly
    vernon frank
    orla clodagh clodagh
    barbara clodagh
    nigel mary
    holly mary
    Phil katie



    The second table is the timestamps on those votes:

    Voter
    clodagh 11:51 20:59 21:00
    Fiona 14:38 19:24
    Oisin 14:55
    Holly 17:01 19:08
    Henry 18:33 19:10 20:19
    abigal 18:33 20:53
    Katie 18:44
    Frank 19:50
    Steve 19:50 20:59
    gabriel 20:07 20:19 20:20 20:37
    Mary 20:09 20:42
    vernon 20:22
    Oral 20:25 20:31
    barbara 20:47
    Nigel 20:48
    Holly 20:05
    Phil 20:58


    Theres a few things to note from these

    A few voters jump around. However there is some ‘double voting’ wherea player re-votes twice in quick succession. Remove this and the max number of votes/player is three

    Abi’s vote for me lands at 20.53. this is after I’ve voted Mary and while were discussing her ‘Holly good list’ post. Timing here is strange tbh

    Steve re-votes Holly at 20.59. It appears to be a ‘making sure’ vote. Would be useful to get a steer from Steve as to why he was confident enough to do that.

    Henrys pattern is odd. Double self vote with a Holly vote sandwiched. Tbh I done really get Henrys play so far

    3 days ago was the only time that Nigel mentions Oisin and its actually again because of a vote count.

    Very very little interaction between Oisin and the wolves


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