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Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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  • #2642
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    jojofizzio wrote: »
    Did Donie Cassidy have a table to himself coz he insisted on social distancing??
    Or did nobody want to sit with him??

    There were a few bigwigs at his table by all account.


  • #2643
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Also re-Hogan, the investigation into his timeline while here is not fully clear or nailed down.
    He insisted he self-isolated for 14 days but reports are he moved from Kildare after 7/8 days there to Dublin (meeting) and Kilkenny (home)


  • #2644
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    I think they do when it may encroach on their and the institution's reputation (in this case)
    He was at it in a private capacity and just eating and drinking. It had nothing to do with the institution.


  • #2645
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    silver2020 wrote: »
    funny, no regulations were broken on the first day of the event.

    It was because of the knee jerk reaction of Micheal Martin and Stephen donnelly that new recommendations were announced on Tuesday to take effect the next day.

    The fact that most news outlets did not give full details and that not many realised the sudden change happened seems to be ignored.

    Certainly Calleary had to go as he was fully aware of the new regulations - but the rest, it's just a witch hunt imo.

    If it was held on friday - different story.
    Ordinary Joes across the country were cancelling kids football/making alt arrangements etc the evening of the announcement so...


  • #2646
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    The fallout surely from schools reopening will be at least two weeks away (hopefully no fallout due to big rises in cases)
    Oh, I think it'll be a daily report from day 1, like the hospital trolley count!


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  • #2647
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    is_that_so wrote: »
    He was at it in a private capacity and just eating and drinking. It had nothing to do with the institution.
    I don't think that matters when you're on the Supreme Court.


  • #2648
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Oh, I think it'll be a daily report from day 1, like the hospital trolley count!
    Jaysus!


  • #2649
    Liamo57
    Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭Liamo57


    Cassidy has a car boot full of wigs for every ocassion. He has a formal wig for dinner dances so that the strobe lighting makes him look like John Travolta on the dance floor when he'd be jiving to 'Stop the world and let me off"


  • #2650
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Three on Radio 1 shiortly, Varadkar, McDonald and someone else I didn't catch name of. <--Jim O Callaghan
    Interestingly, they announced all the others by name who they contacted to come on and who were 'unavailable' including Sean O'Rourke ?<---RTE turning a corner?
    Are even RTE wholly pissed off as the majority of the country are?


  • #2651
    Cute Hoor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    Jim O'Callaghan may be about to launch his leadership campaign now on RTE Radio 1 news


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  • #2652
    Bannasidhe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,218 ✭✭✭✭Bannasidhe


    Letter to the Examiner from a Doctor sums up just how stupid this 'rules lawyering' use of a partition was - did they think the virus wouldn't see the gap?
    ...We in healthcare isolate ourselves from family and friends when we are exposed. I have many colleagues who got Covid-19 in work and had a very difficult time with it and afterwards.

    We are seeing more and more outbreaks now in congregated settings.

    Then some muppet said it was OK because there were 40 in one side of the room and 40 in the other side...

    This is like having a pissing section in a swimming pool or a smoking section in one half of the room.

    Really. Are you having a laugh here? Talk about adding insult to injury. How arrogant, stupid, irresponsible are these idiots?

    I don't write to newspapers but this was so outrageous that I had to comment.

    The vast majority of people are genuinely trying to self isolate, wash hands, wear masks, socially distance, and minimise risk to themselves and others.

    This is just reckless and incredibly dangerous behaviour....


    Professor D William Molloy

    Centre of Gerontology and Rehabilitation,

    St Finbarr's Hospital, Douglas Road, Cork
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/yourview/arid-40036022.html#.X0FrfdXi0mI.twitter


  • #2653
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Jim O'Callaghan going rogue on Martin here?

    He wants Hogan to remain in his position. Tbf his reasoning has merit.


  • #2654
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    O'Callaghan pulling back from outright hanging Hogan - "Ireland cannot afford to lose him basically". FF position.
    He says the govt 'had to say something' when asked was Martin/Varadkar wrong yesterday so!
    Jesus Christ.


  • #2655
    ShamNNspace
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,985 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    Jim O'Callaghan may be about to launch his leadership campaign now on RTE Radio 1 news

    Hogan to stay "in the national interest" according to the new Messiah


  • #2656
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    Jim O'Callaghan may be about to launch his leadership campaign now on RTE Radio 1 news

    A bit miffed that he wasn't invited, or maybe he was and declined who knows?

    He is also supporting Hogan as Trade Commissioner going through Brexit. And as I wondered last night he cannot be removed by the Government only by the EU Court for gross misconduct.

    You live and learn.


  • #2657
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    Jim O'Callaghan may be about to launch his leadership campaign now on RTE Radio 1 news
    No, he's off rebuilding the party! He's the FF equivalent of Leo! There will be no leader challenge until we get to Part Deux, if we even do.


  • #2658
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    "I'm not going to criticise the TAoiseach..."
    Basically, criticises the comms up to now!


  • #2659
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Jim O'Callaghan going rogue on Martin here?

    He wants Hogan to remain in his position. Tbf his reasoning has merit.

    Not for me. The punishment should fit the crime, not the person or their position.


  • #2660
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    MCdonald not saying much.
    "Bizarre" and trampolines were mentioned.
    But she did point out 'reflect on his position' to Hogan from Ireland must be taken up by the EU

    Varadkar says Hogan needs to account for his movements while in Ireland especially in and out of Kildare.
    Apology welcome, but needs to account for himself and reaffirms the movements are paramount and if he can't account for them he needs to consider his position.

    He is pretty strident but won't be drawn on Woulfe.


  • #2661
    marketty
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,064 ✭✭✭marketty


    Ger Roe wrote: »
    There is a defined distance between the offices of the state and the judiciary.

    How does that tally with members of the Oireachtas wining and dining a supreme court judge at an invitation only golf outing?

    But you are right that they can't sack him, and I do think that's an important constitutional protection. Maybe the Standards in Public Office Commission need to look at potential conflicts of interest in this area?


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  • #2662
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,439 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Leo trying to have his cake and eat it.


  • #2663
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    Not for me. The punishment should fit the crime, not the person or their position.

    Agree, but we are in a very precarious position in relation to trade with the UK.

    A Trade Commissioner from Estonia handling Brexit talks would not be in our favour. I get that Hogan's allegiance is first and for most to the European Union but he will have that small bit of bias within that could be crucial.

    It's not a stance I like to have to take.


  • #2664
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,439 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Vincent Browne says Seamus Woolf needs to resign.


  • #2665
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,284 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Leo confirming for me anyhow that there is still more to come on Hogan.

    That 'account for his movements in and around Kildare' could become what the next revelations are about.


  • #2666
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    Agree, but we are in a very precarious position in relation to trade with the UK.

    A Trade Commissioner from Estonia handling Brexit talks would not be in our favour. I get that Hogan's allegiance is first and for most to the European Union but he will have that small bit of bias within that could be crucial.

    It's not a stance I like to have to take.

    Then what you are indirectly saying is that it is okay for politicians to act in their own self interest or in the interests of their party. That if a minister does something they shouldn’t, it’s okay for a Taoiseach to cover it up or dismiss it because in their view “it’s in the best interests of the country”.

    This rationale is a very slippery slope to corruption.


  • #2667
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    FrancieBrady wrote: »
    Leo confirming for me anyhow that there is still more to come on Hogan.

    That 'account for his movements in and around Kildare' could become what the next revelations are about.
    That's what i thought too.


  • #2668
    deise08
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,330 ✭✭✭deise08


    I could have gotten an invitation to the office but if I did it was never passed on.......


  • #2669
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    deise08 wrote: »
    I could have gotten an invitation to the office but if I did it was never passed on.......
    Boxing clever


  • #2670
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,284 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    deise08 wrote: »
    I could have gotten an invitation to the office but if I did it was never passed on.......

    How many invites would you get in the middle of a pandemic? Spoofing on that one...he knows rightly he was invited.


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  • #2671
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    O'Callaghan pulling back from outright hanging Hogan - "Ireland cannot afford to lose him basically". FF position.
    He says the govt 'had to say something' when asked was Martin/Varadkar wrong yesterday so!
    Jesus Christ.

    I find it funny saying we need Hogan in place to work for us. That is not Hogan's job. His job is to represent the EU as evidenced when he was Agri commissioner. I seem to recall Irish farmers very unhappy with the Brazilian deal he signed.


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