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Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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  • #2612
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    The Dail can go down the road of impeachment but that is extremely unlikely.
    It's up to Frank Clarke now?
    Based on what law?


  • #2613
    Loafing Oaf
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,973 ✭✭✭✭Loafing Oaf


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    The Dail can go down the road of impeachment but that is extremely unlikely.
    It's up to Frank Clarke now?

    Yeah you'd imagine if his colleagues on the Supreme Court handed him the revolver and the bottle of whiskey Wolfie would realise the game was up (in a way Big Phil might not)


  • #2614
    ChikiChiki
    Closed Accounts Posts: 4,949 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    I would love to know who the 8 with Donie Cassidy were.

    Cassidy co signed the invitations. There could be some real skeleton there. You would wonder why these people were not named.


  • #2615
    seligehgit
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,286 ✭✭✭seligehgit


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Based on what law?

    Article 34 section 1 sub section 1 Bunreacht na hÉireann


  • #2616
    jelutong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,165 ✭✭✭jelutong


    jojofizzio wrote: »
    Did Donie Cassidy have a table to himself coz he insisted on social distancing??
    Or did nobody want to sit with him??

    Wigs on the green so to speak..


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  • #2617
    DeanAustin
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,885 ✭✭✭DeanAustin


    Umaro wrote: »
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    There you go folks, the apology everyone wanted.


    Thread can be closed now, right?

    Most people have been calling for him to go, not for an apology. That it arrived three days late following other less remorseful statements only heightens the sense that it’s not genuine and a stunt to salvage his job.

    The man should resign.


  • #2618
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    seligehgit wrote: »
    Article 34 section 1 sub section 1 Bunreacht na hÉireann
    For attending a meal? Talk about a disproportionate reaction. They didn't get rid of the judge in the child porn case, they won't do it here.


  • #2619
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Foster & Allen didn't turn up:p
    Why wasnt TR Dallas lined up for the after meal "entertainment"
    He could have done a duo with Big Phil singing "Oh Lord it's so hard to be humble"


  • #2620
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,196 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    Most people have been calling for him to go, not for an apology. That it arrived three days late following other less remorseful statements only heightens the sense that it’s not genuine and a stunt to salvage his job.

    The man should resign.

    Now we'll also see how serious Leo and Michael were.

    Government in chaos and tatters.


  • #2621
    Edgware
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    jelutong wrote: »
    Wigs on the green so to speak..
    What are you insinuating? That hair is his own hair. As Scrap Saturday said years ago about Cassidy's hair". "We have seen the receipt"


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  • #2622
    Damien360
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,258 ✭✭✭Damien360


    is_that_so wrote: »
    For attending a meal? Talk about a disproportionate reaction. They didn't get rid of the judge in the child porn case, they won't do it here.

    Every government has always said they won’t interfere with the judiciary and they are in effect a law on to themselves. They won’t get heavy with this judge either.

    As for the Kerry judge caught with the child porn, his warrant was technically a couple of minutes too old and therefore illegal. He then claimed to be too unwell to attend court and strangely every single news outlet along with the courts let him off the hook. Bet his pension wasn’t touched. He should be able to keep his own contributions but loose the state ones.


  • #2623
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Hogan will have to be sacked.


  • #2624
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Based on what law?
    Just hearing possibilities discussed on radio.
    Maybe garda investiogation, there are fines/jailtime etc for rule breaks etc
    I do not know if they apply here.
    Then there's viability of a supreme court judge's reputation -> his fellow justices


  • #2625
    Cute Hoor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    Umaro wrote: »
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    There you go folks, the apology everyone wanted.


    Thread can be closed now, right?

    He has cheek for another arse, he's going nowhere. Pressure back on Martin and Varadkar


  • #2626
    Umaro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,561 ✭✭✭Umaro


    That last paragraph is pure "I don't answer to you saps".


  • #2627
    Damien360
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,258 ✭✭✭Damien360


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Just hearing possibilities discussed on radio.
    Maybe garda investiogation, there are fines/jailtime etc for rule breaks etc
    I do not know if they apply here.
    Then there's viability of a supreme court judge's reputation -> his fellow justices

    If you honestly think the judicatory give a damn about reputation then a quick look at the courts every week should put that view aside pretty quick. How many times has a criminal with 100 plus convictions come before the court and he gets a suspended sentence due to having a hard life. That judge doesn’t give a damn about what the law abiding plebs think of him.


  • #2628
    Ger Roe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,195 ✭✭✭Ger Roe


    Loafing Oaf wrote: »
    Point was made on the radio this morning that it's highly questionable for a Supreme Court judge to be attending this sort of event even in 'normal times'. They were talking about the procedure for 'sacking' a judge but you would imagine the government would be very reluctant to go down this road.

    The government can't go down that road. There is a defined distance between the offices of the state and the judiciary. The legal eagles themselves are the only people who can act in this specific regard.


  • #2629
    Fr Tod Umptious
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,517 ✭✭✭✭Fr Tod Umptious


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Hogan will have to be sacked.

    By whom ?


  • #2630
    cannotlogin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,172 ✭✭✭cannotlogin


    Surely if Phil Hogan had/has/gets Covid19 it will get covered up or he'll never get tested unless he is really bad given the arrogance of the man.

    Looking at his travel movements, interactions with people, golf trips etc. he must be a contender for Ireland's biggest super spreader if he did catch the virus.

    This is clearly a man who thinks he's bigger than the virus and has no regard for anyone he interacts with.


  • #2631
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    ChikiChiki wrote: »
    I would love to know who the 8 with Donie Cassidy were.

    Cassidy co signed the invitations. There could be some real skeleton there. You would wonder why these people were not named.

    These names will inevitably come out, and there could be some entertainment.


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  • #2632
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    Just hearing possibilities discussed on radio.
    Maybe garda investiogation, there are fines/jailtime etc for rule breaks etc
    I do not know if they apply here.
    Then there's viability of a supreme court judge's reputation -> his fellow justices
    Gardai will not get into this as everyone's apologised anyway. That would be the club anyway, some journalists are really wetting themselves over this. Much bigger issue is next week.


  • #2633
    is_that_so
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Deleted User wrote: »
    These names will inevitably come out, and there could be some entertainment.
    If it means the media are still screaming about it next week rather than looking at the schools reopening the government won't be too unhappy.


  • #2634
    Gods Gift
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    These names will inevitably come out, and there could be some entertainment.

    I hear The Coronas were the band for the night.


  • #2635
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 21,290 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    cannotlogin wrote: »
    Surely if Phil Hogan had/has/gets Covid19 it will never covered up or he'll never get tested unless he is really bad given the arrogance of the man.

    Looking at his travel movements, interactions with people, golf trips etc. he must be a contender or Ireland's biggest super spreader if he did catch the virus.

    This is clearly a man who things he's bigger than the virus and has no regard for anyone he interacts with.

    If even one of the 80+ gets as much as a sniffle they will all have to get tested. Also the hotel staff and any other guests.


  • #2636
    silver2020
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,045 ✭✭✭silver2020


    funny, no regulations were broken on the first day of the event.

    It was because of the knee jerk reaction of Micheal Martin and Stephen donnelly that new recommendations were announced on Tuesday to take effect the next day.

    The fact that most news outlets did not give full details and that not many realised the sudden change happened seems to be ignored.

    Certainly Calleary had to go as he was fully aware of the new regulations - but the rest, it's just a witch hunt imo.

    If it was held on friday - different story.


  • #2637
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    DeanAustin wrote: »
    I’d assume the 105 minute rule applied to them. Probably a minor detail but wonder if that was observed.

    Well nothing else in the regulations was,so I would doubt it very much...


  • #2638
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Damien360 wrote: »
    If you honestly think the judicatory give a damn about reputation then a quick look at the courts every week should put that view aside pretty quick. How many times has a criminal with 100 plus convictions come before the court and he gets a suspended sentence due to having a hard life. That judge doesn’t give a damn about what the law abiding plebs think of him.
    I think they do when it may encroach on their and the institution's reputation (in this case)


  • #2639
    jojofizzio
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,298 ✭✭✭jojofizzio


    silver2020 wrote: »
    funny, no regulations were broken on the first day of the event.

    It was because of the knee jerk reaction of Micheal Martin and Stephen donnelly that new recommendations were announced on Tuesday to take effect the next day.

    The fact that most news outlets did not give full details and that not many realised the sudden change happened seems to be ignored.

    Certainly Calleary had to go as he was fully aware of the new regulations - but the rest, it's just a witch hunt imo.


    If it was held on friday - different story.
    Martin was specifically asked at the press conference on Tuesday if the regulations were effective from midnight or immediately and he responded “immediately “


  • #2640
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    is_that_so wrote: »
    If it means the media are still screaming about it next week rather than looking at the schools reopening the government won't be too unhappy.
    The fallout surely from schools reopening will be at least two weeks away (hopefully no fallout due to big rises in cases)


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  • #2641
    Liamo57
    Closed Accounts Posts: 157 ✭✭Liamo57


    I think Muttonhead Hogan should be made Taoiseach ASAP. He's a bully and they are all afraid of him. MM is a wimp, he walks like someone who's underpants is too tight for him. Up Big Phil. I bet he'll brazen it out.


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