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Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 135 ✭✭Ferm001


    Does MM play golf or is he a member of the golf Society ? There must have been a communique over recent times for final numbers etc.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 30,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    And is it believable that all 81 didn't think it was inappropriate.

    Again, he literally said they should have known it was inappropriate. What exactly are you looking for?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 29,337 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    1) He’s more believable and genuine than Mehole
    2) He has medical experience so he’s instantly more believable than Mehole
    3) The country was at its best covid stats under Leo/Tony
    4) Mehole is Pinocchio while Leo is Gepetto (spelling?) - has to keep coming out with statements to correct or clarify the FF gob****e.


    We reallly could do with Leo back now.

    Let's not forget that Leo and his Government completely failed on most key domestic issues (housing, health, cost of living etc) and these haven't gone away.. they have just been shielded by the focus on CV-19

    FF are in the driving seat precisely because FG were so bad.

    The only real difference is Leo has a better speechwriter and is more down with the social media than MM. He (Leo) also can't resist giving a soundbite at every opportunity - even if it's not his place to.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,888 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    flazio wrote: »
    I'd say Pieta House are in for a very tough weekend. Really don't see where there's any hope left for this country. One party breaks guidelines to go to a funeral, another has this farce of a leader.
    Has anyone got any good news?

    One less sponger is sponging a ministers salary today.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,888 ✭✭✭lawrencesummers


    Ferm001 wrote: »
    Does MM play golf or is he a member of the golf Society ? There must have been a communique over recent times for final numbers etc.

    You can be sure as well that an event like that has a table plan, so that people are seated in order of perceived importance. So a quick glance at that would have told everyone how many people were attending.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    Let's not forget that Leo and his Government completely failed on most key domestic issues (housing, health, cost of living etc) and these haven't gone away.. they have just been shielded by the focus on CV-19

    FF are in the driving seat precisely because FG were so bad.

    The only real difference is Leo has a better speechwriter and is more down with the social media than MM. He (Leo) also can't resist giving a soundbite at every opportunity - even if it's not his place to.

    They guided us and ran the country when it was needed most - I don’t think you’ll find many taxpayers who are too concerned about housing as it’s a smokescreen to provide free houses for wasters (not referring to buyers here but the “homeliss”’we keep hearing the likes of SF and Paul Murphy bleat On about) Cost of living (apart from VAT) can’t be influenced by government and rental prices neither so I’m not sure what you expected them to do there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,815 ✭✭✭SimonTemplar


    This isn't a case of people that should know better. The fact is that they do know better and yet decided the rules don't apply to them because they have an over-inflated sense of self-importance. And this is the same attitude and behavior that has resulted in many FF scandals in the past.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    1) He’s more believable and genuine than Mehole
    2) He has medical experience so he’s instantly more believable than Mehole
    3) The country was at its best covid stats under Leo/Tony
    4) Mehole is Pinocchio while Leo is Gepetto (spelling?) - has to keep coming out with statements to correct or clarify the FF gob****e.


    We reallly could do with Leo back now.
    1) Really, many PR gurus may have helped there.
    2) To be able to say wash your hands and social distance is not a plus
    3)'Best' covid stats - 1700 people died, over 1000 in care homes <- why?
    4) LV should be out front now - he and his party are actually the govt as well, you do know this right? He's undermined his govt partners AFAICS


    That sounds like a defence of MM and FF, I can assure it's not.
    However, I dislike the canonisation of Varadkar intensely.
    He's simply not what he appears to be to some people.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    One less sponger is sponging a ministers salary today.

    You know he's going to be replaced, right?

    Probably by Jack "I don't believe that the Irish people should get a say on the 8th amendment and there should be no referendum" Chambers.

    Talented bunch.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    1)
    3) The country was at its best covid stats under Leo/Tony

    Wha? Did you hear about the nursing homes?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,047 ✭✭✭Clonmel1000


    whiskeyman wrote: »
    I thought the Dominic Cummings scandal in the UK wouldnt be topped, but that was just one man.

    GolfGate is a list of high powered and influencial people who should have known better. There is simply no excuse. None.
    Especially after all so many of us have gone through.
    I didn't even get to my own uncle's funeral.

    It really is a two fingered arrogant salute to the general population.

    This goes beyond party politics.
    This is Irish politics laid bare.
    It's rotten to the core and the people are sick of it.

    The same people who voted in February for these people is it?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,359 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    There must be a voodoo curse on the Dept of Agriculture office that makes the new Minister act like a moron.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭boardise


    When you're in a hole -stop putting.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    You know he's going to be replaced, right?

    Perhaps he’ll give it to one of the Greens - that will piss the public right off.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,344 ✭✭✭mr_edge_to_you


    There must be a voodoo curse on the Dept of Agriculture office that makes the new Minister act like a moron.

    In fairness, Barry Cowen was acting the moron before he got the job.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    Podge_irl wrote: »
    Again, he literally said they should have known it was inappropriate. What exactly are you looking for?

    There are readily available COVID guidelines.
    Those guidelines deem that the planned event on Wednesday was inappropriate.
    81 of the 'cream' of Irish society attended the event.
    Did any of the 81 consider it inappropriate BEFORE they attended


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    1) Really, many PR gurus may have helped there.
    2) To be able to say wash your hands and social distance is not a plus
    3)'Best' covid stats - 1700 people died, over 1000 in care homes <- why?
    4) LV should be out front now - he and his party are actually the govt as well, you do know this right? He's undermined his govt partners AFAICS


    That sounds like a defence of MM and FF, I can assure it's not.
    However, I dislike the canonisation of Varadkar intensely.
    He's simply not what he appears to be to some people.

    Simple question - is he more acceptable than MM? For me he is certainly is, MM is a weasel and can’t be taken seriously which is not what we need right now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,088 ✭✭✭✭BonnieSituation


    Perhaps he’ll give it to one of the Greens - that will piss the public right off.

    Tbh, I don't think the general public give a shíte.

    Farmers on the other hand...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,373 ✭✭✭Mr. Karate


    mick087 wrote: »
    I belive there is now an apology Phil Hogan

    These **** are only sorry that they were caught.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    Have the Greens gone into hibernation?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,987 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Cases alone tell us absolutely nothing, the real metrics of an epidemic are deaths and ICU admissions while accounting for the lags.

    So, if we opened all the pubs right now, how do you think those numbers would look in 2 or 3 weeks time?

    And there are many people at home sick with other viruses and illnesses which are much more dangerous than covid who cannot access services they need because the country has lost it's mind.

    Please tell me what these 'much more dangerous' viruses are, exactly?
    Covid was the underlying cause of 13.7% of all deaths that occurred in England (45,439 deaths) from January to July 2020.

    If you don't think that number is terrifying there must be something wrong with you.

    Over 13% of people who died in that period would be alive today if not for this virus.

    THINK about that.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    mick087 wrote: »
    I belive there is now an apology Phil Hogan

    Too late. He had all day and attempted to brass neck it out. He's hoping the media don't look into his exact movements since he returned to Ireland.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    Simple question - is he more acceptable than MM? For me he is certainly is, MM is a weasel and can’t be taken seriously which is not what we need right now
    No.
    Both are not up to par IMO.
    Both failed, useless ministers IMO.
    So what would make me think they were national leaders in any respect.
    I wouldn't have a clue who could be the best politician to lead us during all of this out of 160 or so TDs, but I do know the current govt inc FG which ppl appear to be forgetting, should be sticking together (not closing shop when they fck up btw I mean agree amongst them the bets way forward), on message and not snipe on Twitter or usurp the nominal Taoiseachs' position by sneaking in with their unwanted soundbites first for tv time.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,680 ✭✭✭boardise


    Hapey wrote: »
    Out of 10, I'd give her one.

    Nice , I see what ewe did their. :D


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    Have the Greens gone into hibernation?

    No Eamon is just having a nap


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 455 ✭✭Parabellum9


    Sir Oxman wrote: »
    No.
    Both are not up to par IMO.
    Both failed, useless ministers IMO.
    So what would make me think they were national leaders in any respect.
    I wouldn't have a clue who could be the best politician to lead us during all of this out of 160 or so TDs, but I do know the current govt inc FG which ppl appear to be forgetting, should be sticking together (not closing shop when they fck up btw I mean agree amongst them the bets way forward), on message and not snipe on Twitter or usurp the nominal Taoiseachs' position by sneaking in with their unwanted soundbites first for tv time.

    So who does that leave as candidate for Taoiseach, Mary. Lou and her band of “free **** for the wasters” party? God help us


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 30,002 Mod ✭✭✭✭Podge_irl


    Cute Hoor wrote: »
    There are readily available COVID guidelines.
    Those guidelines deem that the planned event on Wednesday was inappropriate.
    81 of the 'cream' of Irish society attended the event.
    Did any of the 81 consider it inappropriate BEFORE they attended

    I'm sure some of them must have thought about it. I still don't get your point.

    You were bemoaning that she didn't ask if it was believable that they didn't know it was an infringement. She asked if they should have known when they got there and Martin suggested they should have known in advance of that. He answered the question you are complaining wasn't asked.

    I'm not defending him, the whole thing is a ****show. He came across better than I expected but the party is in tatters clearly. But you're not making very cogent points.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 374 ✭✭Jimi H


    No sign of Noel Grealish resigning yet. He apparently was the captain who sent out the invites with Donie.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,359 ✭✭✭✭Galwayguy35


    At the rate they are going they will be lucky to last a year in coalition.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,987 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Ah lads she fairly good looking and well groomed. We're not talking Marilyn Monroe!

    Maybe I'm from the wrong generation, but that 'look' does absolutely nothing for me.

    Let's see ya without the pancake makeup and fake tan and bleached hair and see what you really look like.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra,

    I'm raptured by the joy of it all.



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