Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

Ferm001 · 21-08-2020 07:23PM

Does MM play golf or is he a member of the golf Society ? There must have been a communique over recent times for final numbers etc.

Podge_irl · 21-08-2020 07:24PM

Cute Hoor wrote: »

And is it believable that all 81 didn't think it was inappropriate.

Again, he literally said they should have known it was inappropriate. What exactly are you looking for?

_Kaiser_ · 21-08-2020 07:26PM

Parabellum9 wrote: »

1) He’s more believable and genuine than Mehole
2) He has medical experience so he’s instantly more believable than Mehole
3) The country was at its best covid stats under Leo/Tony
4) Mehole is Pinocchio while Leo is Gepetto (spelling?) - has to keep coming out with statements to correct or clarify the FF gob****e.

We reallly could do with Leo back now.

Let's not forget that Leo and his Government completely failed on most key domestic issues (housing, health, cost of living etc) and these haven't gone away.. they have just been shielded by the focus on CV-19

FF are in the driving seat precisely because FG were so bad.

The only real difference is Leo has a better speechwriter and is more down with the social media than MM. He (Leo) also can't resist giving a soundbite at every opportunity - even if it's not his place to.

lawrencesummers · 21-08-2020 07:27PM

flazio wrote: »

I'd say Pieta House are in for a very tough weekend. Really don't see where there's any hope left for this country. One party breaks guidelines to go to a funeral, another has this farce of a leader.
Has anyone got any good news?

One less sponger is sponging a ministers salary today.

lawrencesummers · 21-08-2020 07:28PM

Ferm001 wrote: »

Does MM play golf or is he a member of the golf Society ? There must have been a communique over recent times for final numbers etc.

You can be sure as well that an event like that has a table plan, so that people are seated in order of perceived importance. So a quick glance at that would have told everyone how many people were attending.

Parabellum9 · 21-08-2020 07:30PM

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Let's not forget that Leo and his Government completely failed on most key domestic issues (housing, health, cost of living etc) and these haven't gone away.. they have just been shielded by the focus on CV-19

FF are in the driving seat precisely because FG were so bad.

The only real difference is Leo has a better speechwriter and is more down with the social media than MM. He (Leo) also can't resist giving a soundbite at every opportunity - even if it's not his place to.

They guided us and ran the country when it was needed most - I don’t think you’ll find many taxpayers who are too concerned about housing as it’s a smokescreen to provide free houses for wasters (not referring to buyers here but the “homeliss”’we keep hearing the likes of SF and Paul Murphy bleat On about) Cost of living (apart from VAT) can’t be influenced by government and rental prices neither so I’m not sure what you expected them to do there.

SimonTemplar · 21-08-2020 07:30PM

This isn't a case of people that should know better. The fact is that they do know better and yet decided the rules don't apply to them because they have an over-inflated sense of self-importance. And this is the same attitude and behavior that has resulted in many FF scandals in the past.

Sir Oxman · 21-08-2020 07:33PM

Parabellum9 wrote: »

1) He’s more believable and genuine than Mehole
2) He has medical experience so he’s instantly more believable than Mehole
3) The country was at its best covid stats under Leo/Tony
4) Mehole is Pinocchio while Leo is Gepetto (spelling?) - has to keep coming out with statements to correct or clarify the FF gob****e.

We reallly could do with Leo back now.

1) Really, many PR gurus may have helped there.
2) To be able to say wash your hands and social distance is not a plus
3)'Best' covid stats - 1700 people died, over 1000 in care homes <- why?
4) LV should be out front now - he and his party are actually the govt as well, you do know this right? He's undermined his govt partners AFAICS

That sounds like a defence of MM and FF, I can assure it's not.
However, I dislike the canonisation of Varadkar intensely.
He's simply not what he appears to be to some people.

BonnieSituation · 21-08-2020 07:33PM

lawrencesummers wrote: »

One less sponger is sponging a ministers salary today.

You know he's going to be replaced, right?

Probably by Jack "I don't believe that the Irish people should get a say on the 8th amendment and there should be no referendum" Chambers.

Talented bunch.

Cute Hoor · 21-08-2020 07:34PM

Parabellum9 wrote: »

1)
3) The country was at its best covid stats under Leo/Tony

Wha? Did you hear about the nursing homes?

Clonmel1000 · 21-08-2020 07:34PM

whiskeyman wrote: »

I thought the Dominic Cummings scandal in the UK wouldnt be topped, but that was just one man.

GolfGate is a list of high powered and influencial people who should have known better. There is simply no excuse. None.
Especially after all so many of us have gone through.
I didn't even get to my own uncle's funeral.

It really is a two fingered arrogant salute to the general population.

This goes beyond party politics.
This is Irish politics laid bare.
It's rotten to the core and the people are sick of it.

The same people who voted in February for these people is it?

Galwayguy35 · 21-08-2020 07:34PM

There must be a voodoo curse on the Dept of Agriculture office that makes the new Minister act like a moron.

boardise · 21-08-2020 07:34PM

When you're in a hole -stop putting.

mr_edge_to_you · 21-08-2020 07:35PM

BonnieSituation wrote: »

You know he's going to be replaced, right?

Perhaps he’ll give it to one of the Greens - that will piss the public right off.

mr_edge_to_you · 21-08-2020 07:36PM

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

There must be a voodoo curse on the Dept of Agriculture office that makes the new Minister act like a moron.

In fairness, Barry Cowen was acting the moron before he got the job.

Cute Hoor · 21-08-2020 07:38PM

Podge_irl wrote: »

Again, he literally said they should have known it was inappropriate. What exactly are you looking for?

There are readily available COVID guidelines.
Those guidelines deem that the planned event on Wednesday was inappropriate.
81 of the 'cream' of Irish society attended the event.
Did any of the 81 consider it inappropriate BEFORE they attended

Parabellum9 · 21-08-2020 07:38PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

1) Really, many PR gurus may have helped there.
2) To be able to say wash your hands and social distance is not a plus
3)'Best' covid stats - 1700 people died, over 1000 in care homes <- why?
4) LV should be out front now - he and his party are actually the govt as well, you do know this right? He's undermined his govt partners AFAICS

That sounds like a defence of MM and FF, I can assure it's not.
However, I dislike the canonisation of Varadkar intensely.
He's simply not what he appears to be to some people.

Simple question - is he more acceptable than MM? For me he is certainly is, MM is a weasel and can’t be taken seriously which is not what we need right now

BonnieSituation · 21-08-2020 07:40PM

mr_edge_to_you wrote: »

Perhaps he’ll give it to one of the Greens - that will piss the public right off.

Tbh, I don't think the general public give a shíte.

Farmers on the other hand...

Mr. Karate · 21-08-2020 07:40PM

mick087 wrote: »

I belive there is now an apology Phil Hogan

These **** are only sorry that they were caught.

Gerry Hatrick · 21-08-2020 07:41PM

Have the Greens gone into hibernation?

Hotblack Desiato · 21-08-2020 07:42PM

Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »

Cases alone tell us absolutely nothing, the real metrics of an epidemic are deaths and ICU admissions while accounting for the lags.

So, if we opened all the pubs right now, how do you think those numbers would look in 2 or 3 weeks time?

Sophia Cuddly Amputee wrote: »

And there are many people at home sick with other viruses and illnesses which are much more dangerous than covid who cannot access services they need because the country has lost it's mind.

Please tell me what these 'much more dangerous' viruses are, exactly?

Covid was the underlying cause of 13.7% of all deaths that occurred in England (45,439 deaths) from January to July 2020.

If you don't think that number is terrifying there must be something wrong with you.

Over 13% of people who died in that period would be alive today if not for this virus.

THINK about that.

Gerry Hatrick · 21-08-2020 07:42PM

mick087 wrote: »

I belive there is now an apology Phil Hogan

Too late. He had all day and attempted to brass neck it out. He's hoping the media don't look into his exact movements since he returned to Ireland.

Sir Oxman · 21-08-2020 07:43PM

Parabellum9 wrote: »

Simple question - is he more acceptable than MM? For me he is certainly is, MM is a weasel and can’t be taken seriously which is not what we need right now

No.
Both are not up to par IMO.
Both failed, useless ministers IMO.
So what would make me think they were national leaders in any respect.
I wouldn't have a clue who could be the best politician to lead us during all of this out of 160 or so TDs, but I do know the current govt inc FG which ppl appear to be forgetting, should be sticking together (not closing shop when they fck up btw I mean agree amongst them the bets way forward), on message and not snipe on Twitter or usurp the nominal Taoiseachs' position by sneaking in with their unwanted soundbites first for tv time.

boardise · 21-08-2020 07:43PM

Hapey wrote: »

Out of 10, I'd give her one.

Nice , I see what ewe did their.

Parabellum9 · 21-08-2020 07:43PM

Gerry Hatrick wrote: »

Have the Greens gone into hibernation?

No Eamon is just having a nap

Parabellum9 · 21-08-2020 07:44PM

Sir Oxman wrote: »

No.
Both are not up to par IMO.
Both failed, useless ministers IMO.
So what would make me think they were national leaders in any respect.
I wouldn't have a clue who could be the best politician to lead us during all of this out of 160 or so TDs, but I do know the current govt inc FG which ppl appear to be forgetting, should be sticking together (not closing shop when they fck up btw I mean agree amongst them the bets way forward), on message and not snipe on Twitter or usurp the nominal Taoiseachs' position by sneaking in with their unwanted soundbites first for tv time.

So who does that leave as candidate for Taoiseach, Mary. Lou and her band of “free **** for the wasters” party? God help us

Podge_irl · 21-08-2020 07:44PM

Cute Hoor wrote: »

There are readily available COVID guidelines.
Those guidelines deem that the planned event on Wednesday was inappropriate.
81 of the 'cream' of Irish society attended the event.
Did any of the 81 consider it inappropriate BEFORE they attended

I'm sure some of them must have thought about it. I still don't get your point.

You were bemoaning that she didn't ask if it was believable that they didn't know it was an infringement. She asked if they should have known when they got there and Martin suggested they should have known in advance of that. He answered the question you are complaining wasn't asked.

I'm not defending him, the whole thing is a ****show. He came across better than I expected but the party is in tatters clearly. But you're not making very cogent points.

Jimi H · 21-08-2020 07:45PM

No sign of Noel Grealish resigning yet. He apparently was the captain who sent out the invites with Donie.

Galwayguy35 · 21-08-2020 07:46PM

At the rate they are going they will be lucky to last a year in coalition.

Hotblack Desiato · 21-08-2020 07:46PM

Wild Field 1831 wrote: »

Ah lads she fairly good looking and well groomed. We're not talking Marilyn Monroe!

Maybe I'm from the wrong generation, but that 'look' does absolutely nothing for me.

Let's see ya without the pancake makeup and fake tan and bleached hair and see what you really look like.

Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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