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Minister for Agriculture attends 81-person golf event in breach of health guidelines

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  • #1262
    buried
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,978 ✭✭✭buried


    Hogan will probably blame the entire county of Kildare next

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



  • #1263
    seamus
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 68,173 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The_Brood wrote: »
    The resignations are nothing but symbolic gestures. This entire government needs to be sacked. All out protests on Saturday.
    Bit of an overreaction.

    Give them a bit of time to work this out rather than putting everyone at risk with a protest.

    Could Meehaul be going down as the shortest serving Taoiseach in history?


  • #1264
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,732 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    josip wrote: »
    Spot the odd headline out on RTE.


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    He is such an arrogant ...
    I'm ashamed to say I gave him a #2 vote back in 89.
    They were crazy times to be fair sure just look at the haircuts!


  • #1265
    boardise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭boardise


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    No doubt the TDs don't want the Dail to be reconvened.


    But what would a recall actually achieve apart from producing reams of competitive outrage from the opposition. ( I could see Alan Kelly spontaneously combusting ! )
    A statement from the Taoiseach ( and possibly LV and ER) followed by a press conference would do more to calm the atmosphere - fanning the flames of hysteria won't do the country any good. Cool heads will win the day.


  • #1266
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,091 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    josip wrote: »
    Spot the odd headline out on RTE.


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    He is such an arrogant ...
    I'm ashamed to say I gave him a #2 vote back in 89.

    An entitled cűnt, bully and everything that is wrong with the mindset of our "betters".


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  • #1267
    gmisk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,732 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    boardise wrote: »
    But what would a recall actually achieve apart from producing reams of competitive outrage from the opposition. ( I could see Alan Kelly spontaneously combusting ! )
    A statement from the Taoiseach ( and possibly LV and ER) followed by a press conference would do more to calm the atmosphere - fanning the flames of hysteria won't do the country any good. Cool heads will win the day.
    Alan Kelly spontaneously combusting you say....
    They should definitely recall the dail!!


  • #1268
    boardise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭boardise


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Hogan has several properties it would seem.

    So have many people . It's still allowed I believe.


  • #1269
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    Has big Phil got some dodgy videos or pictures of party colleagues, given that no one wants to speak out and say he was wrong and is an arrogant pr1ck?


  • #1270
    [Deleted User]
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    CJhaughey wrote: »
    They know this is make or break.
    Either everyone that was in attendance at that gathering is sacked or resigns or every single individual in the country that was obeying the rules and abiding by them says " Fcuk it why would did I bother?"

    I'd be quite happy to see them all fired, also whoever facilitated the event, but this idea that everyone should say feck the covid restrictions is just childish.
    Whatever measures we took over the last few months should have been based on information, judgment and common sense. Not because a politician told us to do it.
    It seems many people went too far sticking to the letter of the restrictions and they feel foolish now.


  • #1271
    Limpy
    Users Awaiting Email Confirmation Posts: 1,104 ✭✭✭Limpy


    Berlin Bar...Feck Covid

    FFG...Hold our golf clubs


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  • #1272
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,258 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    boardise wrote: »
    But what would a recall actually achieve apart from producing reams of competitive outrage from the opposition. ( I could see Alan Kelly spontaneously combusting ! )
    A statement from the Taoiseach ( and possibly LV and ER) followed by a press conference would do more to calm the atmosphere - fanning the flames of hysteria won't do the country any good. Cool heads will win the day.

    Sure, why bother having it at all so?

    A mealy mouthed script from FFG will be nothing to quench these flames. Every person there who holds public office should resign immediately. Of course, being Ireland that's exactly what won't happen. But what it will do is shine a massive spotlight on MM. He said there was no confusion over the new restrictions. Now some who attended said they weren't sure. Someone is going to have to carry the can for this and it's not looking good for MM. If the remaining public representatives who attended don't resign the. MM position is almost untenable. They've lost the public support now and only action will get it back, not words.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #1273
    Limpy
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    From Ming...this made me LOL

    Simon is so winded from the "kick in the gut" that he can't speak anymore. #golfgate


  • #1274
    Cute Hoor
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,788 ✭✭✭Cute Hoor


    Very simple for Hogan to bring total clarity to this:

    - When did he return to Ireland
    - Where did he quarantine/self-isolate
    - From/To what dates did he quarantine/self-isolate
    - Has he spent any time in Kildare (other than driving through) since the Kildare lockdown was introduced.

    The answer to those simple questions would bring significant clarity


  • #1275
    Tippex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


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  • #1276
    BPKS
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,234 ✭✭✭✭BPKS


    Sean O Rourkes attendance at this also goes to show the cozy relationship between the houses of the Oireachtas, the judiciary and the media that should be keeping them in check.


  • #1277
    Gerry Hatrick
    Closed Accounts Posts: 552 ✭✭✭Gerry Hatrick


    boardise wrote: »
    But what would a recall actually achieve apart from producing reams of competitive outrage from the opposition. ( I could see Alan Kelly spontaneously combusting ! )
    A statement from the Taoiseach ( and possibly LV and ER) followed by a press conference would do more to calm the atmosphere - fanning the flames of hysteria won't do the country any good. Cool heads will win the day.

    There is no "hysteria". People are sick of these chances and want heads to roll.

    We are far far to passive a people here in this country.


  • #1278
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,141 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    I look on this as an opportunity for the Gov to actually lead at last.

    They will see and hear the anger of the peasants who conformed to very strict and often sad rules. Whatever about sackings, I doubt any of the arrogant shower will step out of line going forward.

    A knee jerk reaction by us peasants by breaking the rules helps no one, as the Gov has found out.

    I detest the lot of them, I'm fed up along with everyone else, but it seems like a game to most of them. The peasants are on their case now.


  • #1279
    MFPM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭MFPM


    BPKS wrote: »
    Sean O Rourkes attendance at this also goes to show the cozy relationship between the houses of the Oireachtas, the judiciary and the media that should be keeping them in check.

    Yeah, this point hasn't been referenced enough in this discussion.


  • #1280
    JRant
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,258 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    I'd be quite happy to see them all fired, also whoever facilitated the event, but this idea that everyone should say feck the covid restrictions is just childish.
    Whatever measures we took over the last few months should have been based on information, judgment and common sense. Not because a politician told us to do it.
    It seems many people went too far sticking to the letter of the restrictions and they feel foolish now.

    Au contraire, politicians passed legislation and published strict guidelines, while also giving Garda powers they've never had before. People were forced to close businesses, cancel weddings, bury relatives in ways that we would never normally do, and all the other limitations they have put on our lives. Is it too much to ask that the very ones supposed to be leading the country abide by the very rules they brought in?

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



  • #1281
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Martin needs to call on those involved to resign, including the judge and Hogan.


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  • #1282
    endainoz
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,655 ✭✭✭endainoz


    boardise wrote: »
    But what would a recall actually achieve apart from producing reams of competitive outrage from the opposition. ( I could see Alan Kelly spontaneously combusting ! )
    A statement from the Taoiseach ( and possibly LV and ER) followed by a press conference would do more to calm the atmosphere - fanning the flames of hysteria won't do the country any good. Cool heads will win the day.

    This scandal will grow and grow, there are plenty of heartbreaking stories of people who couldn't attend funerals due to restrictions earlier in the year, (as sadly mentioned by a poster here).

    These prícks decide it's ok to ignore guidelines, and what it really does is completely undermine the already confusing guidelines given on Tuesday. MM throwing the Dublin pub under the bus, yet saying nothing about meat factories. Literally 24 hours later they get completely disregarded.

    Hard to see anybody taking them seriously now.

    Another point worth noting here: I don't think those who knew about it and didn't attend are completely without blame here. Surely all TDs (perhaps opposition included) knew of this event happening whether they attended or not. It was an oireactas golf society, hardly a secret dinner.

    At the very least senior party members knew about it, but yet condemn it now that it's public knowledge. Did anyone object to it before this? I doubt it.


  • #1283
    irishproduce
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,845 ✭✭✭irishproduce


    I'm blown away by the high regard that this person for whom the event was organised, is held.
    Who was the dinner for? I genuinely have no idea but whoever it was must have delivered a lot of favours over the years or something because men who decided they absolutely had to be there are now dropping like flies from their jobs. Mad.


  • #1284
    hotmail.com
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,435 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Stephen Donnelly needs to be replaced as well urgently.


  • #1285
    Sir Oxman
    Closed Accounts Posts: 8,492 ✭✭✭Sir Oxman


    flynnlives wrote: »
    You can be confident hogan didnt comply with 14 days quarantine.

    He says he arrived in "late July" hmmm why not be specific Phil and give us the date?
    That will be the one thing that will do for him if some good investigative reporter does their job.
    He already has the EU saying he complied fully with 14 day isolation - maybe he did, maybe he didn't...


  • #1286
    Tippex
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,959 ✭✭✭Tippex


    “Have spoken with the Taoiseach. He has refused my request to recall the Dáil.
    He is wrong. The government is increasingly chaotic, confused, with no direction. They must be held to account.” Tweet from Mary Lou in last few minutes.


  • #1287
    MFPM
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,311 ✭✭✭MFPM


    boardise wrote: »
    But what would a recall actually achieve apart from producing reams of competitive outrage from the opposition. ( I could see Alan Kelly spontaneously combusting ! )
    A statement from the Taoiseach ( and possibly LV and ER) followed by a press conference would do more to calm the atmosphere - fanning the flames of hysteria won't do the country any good. Cool heads will win the day.

    That's a silly response. Why have an oireachtas at all then - just have press conferences.

    The Dail is where government's are held to account and they should be held to account over what's going on but more importantly to be held to account over the messy communication in the last week.


  • #1288
    Canyon86
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,223 ✭✭✭Canyon86


    bound to be more selfish government types involved too


  • #1289
    boardise
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,662 ✭✭✭boardise


    BPKS wrote: »
    Sean O Rourkes attendance at this also goes to show the cozy relationship between the houses of the Oireachtas, the judiciary and the media that should be keeping them in check.

    This is the guy who spent years grilling government politicians for not being perfect in their policy execution. Looks like a bit of a hypocrite now eh ?
    Just another well paid media shít stirrer.


  • #1290
    Happy4all
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,089 ✭✭✭Happy4all


    hotmail.com wrote: »
    Stephen Donnelly needs to be replaced as well urgently.

    David Brent might be available.


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  • #1291
    meeeeh
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,612 ✭✭✭✭meeeeh


    Tippex wrote: »
    “Have spoken with the Taoiseach. He has refused my request to recall the Dáil.
    He is wrong. The government is increasingly chaotic, confused, with no direction. They must be held to account.” Tweet from Mary Lou in last few minutes.

    Did Mary Lou want to discuss the funeral etiquette and how people who break the rules step down from their position in the Republic and not in NI?


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