Madeleine McCann

political analyst · 08-08-2020 10:29PM

happyoutscan wrote: »

Well he can't disclose it if he's dead.

He's not going to! After all, Myra Hindley and Ian Brady never disclosed the location of Keith Bennett's remains.

Kidchameleon · 09-08-2020 08:59AM

splinter65 wrote: »

What does the body cam footage demonstrate? I gather there’s no evidence of any racism ?

Not one iota of racism. Tried to find a link for you but of course, its gone! I watched a 10 minute HD video of the footage two days ago but all I can find now is crappy versions of it.

happyoutscan · 11-08-2020 07:07PM

political analyst wrote: »

He's not going to! After all, Myra Hindley and Ian Brady never disclosed the location of Keith Bennett's remains.

That doesn't mean this psycho won't. I shouldn't have to even say that, however unlikely it might be. Plenty of these do.

Banana Republic. · 13-08-2020 08:40PM

£12 million Wow

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1322499/madeleine-mccann-operation-grange-met-police-scotland-yard-spending-portugal-spt/amp

Carfacemandog · 13-08-2020 09:08PM

Banana Republic. wrote: »

£12 million Wow

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1322499/madeleine-mccann-operation-grange-met-police-scotland-yard-spending-portugal-spt/amp

I might have even suspected more, when you think of the man hours that have gone into it alone and likely involving some high detectives etc that can really build up over thirteen years (and that's before getting into costs of lawyers etc who I'm sure have had plenty of input despite it not having been close to court with no primary suspect until recently), travel and accommodation, etc which are just the standard operating type of costs before any lab work, physical equipment for searching, outsourcing costs to various expert bodies, etc

It works out go about £930,000/yr or 17.9k/wk which is a big number, but high profile investigations spread across an entire continent will do that.

Banana Republic. · 13-08-2020 09:18PM

Carfacemandog wrote: »

I might have even suspected more, when you think of the man hours that have gone into it alone and likely involving some high detectives etc that can really build up over thirteen years (and that's before getting into costs of lawyers etc who I'm sure have had plenty of input despite it not having been close to court with no primary suspect until recently), travel and accommodation, etc which are just the standard operating type of costs before any lab work, physical equipment for searching, outsourcing costs to various expert bodies, etc

It works out go about £930,000/yr or 17.9k/wk which is a big number, but high profile investigations spread across an entire continent will do that.

I’d be interested how much has gone into the search and investigation worldwide with all the police forces together. Then taking 13 years to find one suspect and stop not be 100%

kanadams123 · 13-08-2020 11:12PM

Carfacemandog wrote: »

I might have even suspected more, when you think of the man hours that have gone into it alone and likely involving some high detectives etc that can really build up over thirteen years (and that's before getting into costs of lawyers etc who I'm sure have had plenty of input despite it not having been close to court with no primary suspect until recently), travel and accommodation, etc which are just the standard operating type of costs before any lab work, physical equipment for searching, outsourcing costs to various expert bodies, etc

It works out go about £930,000/yr or 17.9k/wk which is a big number, but high profile investigations spread across an entire continent will do that.

I think the 12Million mentioned in the article was only since 2011. So there was 4 years prior to that as well.

I am open to correction here.

MonkieSocks · 14-08-2020 06:38PM

kanadams123 wrote: »

I think the 12Million mentioned in the article was only since 2011. So there was 4 years prior to that as well.

I am open to correction here.

You are spot on for 2011.

Timeline below

Madeleine disappeared on Thursday 3rd May 2007 on the last night of their holiday.

Portuguese Policed archived the Case on 20th of June 2008.

So as of June 2008 there was No Official Police investigation into the disappearance.

After that McCann parents hired private detectives to look for Madeleine.

They didn’t find any direct link to Madeleine, but discovered evidence that led to several arrests with links to a paedophile ring in Spain.

At the same time McCann parents and friends lobbied for support to continue to ask the British and Portuguese governments to undertake a joint or independent review of Madeleine’s case.

In 2008 they also lobbied in Brussels for the European Union in to set up a cross-border alert system (Amber Alert) for abducted children.

Operation Grange was officially launched in May 2011.

Spanish Eyes · 14-08-2020 06:43PM

Seriously, does anyone think the searches in Germany will result in anything specific? Of course I would hope so WRT Madeleine McCann and other missing children. I suppose these things take time.

14-08-2020 07:20PM

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

Seriously, does anyone think the searches in Germany will result in anything specific? Of course I would hope so WRT Madeleine McCann and other missing children. I suppose these things take time.

My father who is an organic chemist says that at this stage there won't be anything left of her to find. A 4 year olds bones won't have hardened yet so would have decomposed. With an adult you'd at least find a skeleton.

Spanish Eyes · 14-08-2020 07:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

My father who is an organic chemist says that at this stage there won't be anything left of her to find. A 4 year olds bones won't have hardened yet so would have decomposed. With an adult you'd at least find a skeleton.

Sad isn't it and thanks for the info. Not sure if I agree though, but we will see.

fergiesfolly · 14-08-2020 07:56PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

My father who is an organic chemist says that at this stage there won't be anything left of her to find. A 4 year olds bones won't have hardened yet so would have decomposed. With an adult you'd at least find a skeleton.

Weren't there baby remains found in Tuam and they were buried for 50+ years

Spanish Eyes · 14-08-2020 08:04PM

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Weren't there baby remains found in Tuam and they were buried for 50+ years

Yes they were, but I think the issue at hand is how DNA might work on such remains.

I don't know about that. hands up.

limnam · 14-08-2020 10:05PM

Anything found yet?

kanadams123 · 14-08-2020 10:24PM

MonkieSocks wrote: »

You are spot on for 2011.

Timeline below

Madeleine disappeared on Thursday 3rd May 2007 on the last night of their holiday.

Portuguese Policed archived the Case on 20th of June 2008.

So as of June 2008 there was No Official Police investigation into the disappearance.

After that McCann parents hired private detectives to look for Madeleine.

They didn’t find any direct link to Madeleine, but discovered evidence that led to several arrests with links to a paedophile ring in Spain.

At the same time McCann parents and friends lobbied for support to continue to ask the British and Portuguese governments to undertake a joint or independent review of Madeleine’s case.

In 2008 they also lobbied in Brussels for the European Union in to set up a cross-border alert system (Amber Alert) for abducted children.

Operation Grange was officially launched in May 2011.

That makes sense. Thanks for clarifying this monkeysocks.

Day Lewin · 15-08-2020 12:32AM

limnam wrote: »

Anything found yet?

It's not us that are searching, mate: you'd have to ask the detectives that are questioning and digging in Germany and Portugal.

limnam · 15-08-2020 08:09AM

Day Lewin wrote: »

It's not us that are searching, mate: you'd have to ask the detectives that are questioning and digging in Germany and Portugal.

You all seem to follow it closely though on top of it

Day Lewin · 15-08-2020 09:32AM

limnam wrote: »

You all seem to follow it closely though on top of it

Sadly, no insider knowledge!
Regarding the search, the Portuguese police appear to have done their usual vague poke-and-wander (Thats only my impression, though)

And the German police took away many containers of "something" from under an allotment chalet once occupied by CB: as far as I can tell, they have released absolutely NO information about what any of this was.

They have said very little about the nature of the evidence against CB, or the exact reason why they upgraded the McCann case from a "missing person" to a murder inquiry.

So the Germans appear to be capable of keeping their cards hidden: and of course this is good policy, since leaked information can reach the Press and prejudice court proceedings against an accused person.

Nobody wants a dangerous criminal to walk free on the grounds that he didn't get a fair unprejudiced trial! (And this applies to any accused, anywhere)

Kidchameleon · 15-08-2020 09:43AM

limnam wrote: »

You all seem to follow it closely though on top of it

Next time you want an update, go and find the information yourself and report it here. Coming here for what is obviously an ego boost is kind of sad given the case at hand.

Flippyfloppy · 15-08-2020 11:09AM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Next time you want an update, go and find the information yourself and report it here. Coming here for what is obviously an ego boost is kind of sad given the case at hand.

It is quite strange, the poster in question pops back on every so often to snidely ask if there's been any updates in a missing 4 year olds case.

limnam · 15-08-2020 02:15PM

Kidchameleon wrote: »

Next time you want an update, go and find the information yourself and report it here. Coming here for what is obviously an ego boost is kind of sad given the case at hand.

Some people just always want to think the worst in others, that's kinda sad also.

I don't dictate to you how you should interact on the thread. Do me the same favor.

limnam · 15-08-2020 02:16PM

Flippyfloppy wrote: »

It is quite strange, the poster in question pops back on every so often to snidely ask if there's been any updates in a missing 4 year olds case.

Yes checking in on the most famous missing child case ever.

Bizzare.

limnam · 15-08-2020 02:19PM

Day Lewin wrote: »

Sadly, no insider knowledge!
Regarding the search, the Portuguese police appear to have done their usual vague poke-and-wander (Thats only my impression, though)

And the German police took away many containers of "something" from under an allotment chalet once occupied by CB: as far as I can tell, they have released absolutely NO information about what any of this was.

They have said very little about the nature of the evidence against CB, or the exact reason why they upgraded the McCann case from a "missing person" to a murder inquiry.

So the Germans appear to be capable of keeping their cards hidden: and of course this is good policy, since leaked information can reach the Press and prejudice court proceedings against an accused person.

Nobody wants a dangerous criminal to walk free on the grounds that he didn't get a fair unprejudiced trial! (And this applies to any accused, anywhere)

I'm trying out " Stop Reading the News: A Manifesto for a Happier, Calmer and Wiser Life"

Works well during Covid

So nothing reported on the big digs so far then?

Hopefully if nothing found on Madeleine, enough will be found to keep the monster behind bars on his other crimes.

16-08-2020 03:40PM

fergiesfolly wrote: »

Weren't there baby remains found in Tuam and they were buried for 50+ years

Yes but apparently it depends alot on how they were buried, and environment conditions, soil pH, humidity, ambient temperatures.

MonsterCookie · 16-08-2020 11:58PM

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-not-the-only-victim-of-christian-brueckner-chief-prosecutor-in-case-says-39452899.html

seems they are still searching the allotment in Hannover and Hans continues to double down in their belief that CB is the culprit.

Banana Republic. · 17-08-2020 08:51AM

MonsterCookie wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-not-the-only-victim-of-christian-brueckner-chief-prosecutor-in-case-says-39452899.html

seems they are still searching the allotment in Hannover and Hans continues to double down in their belief that CB is the culprit.

This stands out for me, believed since CB came into focus that these type of ppl can’t wait to tell ppl in “their” world what they done and their ego is their failure in the end.

The lawyer for Brueckner, Friedrich Fulscher, said on Thursday that he believes the main witness against his client is a criminal who swapped information for police favours. The witness is believed to have told German police that Brueckner told him what had happened to Madeleine, who disappeared from a holiday apartment in Portugal in 2007.

Day Lewin · 17-08-2020 08:55AM

MonsterCookie wrote: »

https://www.independent.ie/world-news/europe/madeleine-mccann/madeleine-mccann-not-the-only-victim-of-christian-brueckner-chief-prosecutor-in-case-says-39452899.html

seems they are still searching the allotment in Hannover and Hans continues to double down in their belief that CB is the culprit.

How believable is this guy Michael T?
I think he paints a very convincing picture.
Somehow it rings true, but of course, that is not good enough for a courtroom!

MonsterCookie · 17-08-2020 12:57PM

https://youtu.be/YMLTeSq7R1c

skynews interview with CBs lawyer. nothing new really. obvious move to say his client is innocent (wrt MM) and that the informant is not to be trusted. CB being kept isolated in prison for his own safety.

Banana Republic. · 17-08-2020 04:29PM

MonsterCookie wrote: »

https://youtu.be/YMLTeSq7R1c

skynews interview with CBs lawyer. nothing new really. obvious move to say his client is innocent (wrt MM) and that the informant is not to be trusted. CB being kept isolated in prison for his own safety.

Imagine the irony of defending CB then saying the informant has spent his life cheating ppl and he’s the worst of the worst. How about you look at your client oak even just in the crimes he’s been identified for, not even the ones he’s accused of.

ShineOn7 · 01-10-2020 08:09AM

So 4 months on and we have yet another "suspect" that ultimately went nowhere and acted as a nice distraction away from the Gerry and Kate's horrible parenting?

Surprise, surprise!

Madeleine McCann

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