Eric Clapton was a disappointment?

LETHAL LADY · 22-07-2020 12:45AM #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbqQL0J_Vr0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NholHANoY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRa4a6eT1Oo

Great music but a selfish type...put me right off him truth be told!

22-07-2020 12:48AM

Clapton is wildly overrated, hasn't produced any fiery guitar solos since 1971 and Rory Gallagher was streets ahead of him in technique and feeling.

I Am Nobody · 22-07-2020 12:50AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HbqQL0J_Vr0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_NholHANoY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pRa4a6eT1Oo

Great music but a selfish type...put me right off him truth be told!

I agree he lost sight of himself once he got success.But sure alot of artists do.But as an artist he was brilliant. As a person not so much.But he did mellow out to a point as he got older.

rapul · 22-07-2020 12:52AM

As already said Rory Gallagher and Taste even was far better than oul slow hands and hendrix but alas the Irish are cursed! But yeah Clapton hasnt done anything good since Cream.

Cream are very good.

LETHAL LADY · 22-07-2020 01:01AM

Similar all the same???

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzM71scYw0M

guitarhappy · 22-07-2020 01:04AM

Clapton is very open about the fact that he was seriously alcoholic when he was young. I guess he was something of a jerk.

He's been sober for a long time and I think he's highly respected by people who know him and other musicians. He has a good marriage and 3 lovely daughters now in their teens. He's done a lot of good in the world.

He's a great guitar player. More than that he's been a mentor and made other people famous. Listen to his Crossroads Guitar Festival DVD's. Other players like B.B. King, Hubert Sumlin, Derek Trucks, Warren Haynes, Vince Gill, sing his praises.

His 2 most recent videos, the final Japan tour one, or the one with J.J. Cale before he died, I think that was San Diego or Phoenix, they're great entertainment.

I'm a big Clapton fan because he's a great player and his touring hands with awesome musicians like Billy Preston, Derek Trucks, Chris Stainton, Steve Gadd, Nathan East, Steve Jordan....bands don't get better than this.

Watch his recent videos, you'll have to love them m

LETHAL LADY · 22-07-2020 01:13AM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDs2Bkq6UU4

Strumms · 22-07-2020 01:25AM

I love my music, and great guitarists in particular but Clapton despite being an extraordinarily proficient musician is somebody who I could never warm to as an artist or individual. My first purchase of his was some live album and while you could admire the artistry and ability of the guy he was never in my case capable of many WOW moments in his music... it was I guess, ‘nice’, that’s about it. On the other hand I could listen to somebody I guess of the same genre, era and probably fair to say abilities too ... like John Martyn and he’d have the hair standing up on my neck...

Joe_ Public · 22-07-2020 01:30AM

Eric Clapton was one of the main inspirations behind the huge Rock against Racism campaigns and gigs in the late 70s, and i dont mean in a good way. Hard to come back from that.

con747 · 22-07-2020 01:35AM

Eric Clapton was a disappointment? No.

YFlyer · 22-07-2020 01:44AM

Why is this in After Hours? Cocaine? He learnt the guitar his own way? How about Lemmy and Sting? Rory could have played in either Dire Straits, Rolling Stones, Queen and dare I say Led Zeppelin

Strumms · 22-07-2020 01:51AM

A rumor doing the rounds for decades is the Stones asked him to join before Mick Taylor joined. Rory that is.

guitarhappy · 22-07-2020 02:19AM

Strumms wrote: »

A rumor doing the rounds for decades is the Stones asked him to join before Mick Taylor joined. Rory that is.

Rory was a blues imposter. He could copy a decent sounding 12 bars, after that he was lost and didn't know what to do with it. He had great energy and If he had lived longer, who knows, but not in Clapton's league.

22-07-2020 02:25AM

I'd much prefer Clapton to Gallagher Tbh..

Lyle Lanley · 22-07-2020 03:04AM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Clapton is wildly overrated, hasn't produced any fiery guitar solos since 1971 and Rory Gallagher was streets ahead of him in technique and feeling.

If you judge every guitarist against Rory you won't have much music to listen to.

fran38 · 22-07-2020 03:15AM

beauf wrote: »

I'm not sure I would rate someone on how many "fiery solo's" they play. Less is more and all that, and I say that hardrock/metal fan. Neither a Gallagher or a Clapton album has ever been on my frequent play list. I like some of their biggest hits and all that, but I always get tired of them quickly. Though I can appreciate their influence and all that. Rory didn't stray much from a very narrow genre.

But music is subjective. If you like it thats all that matters.

That is the one aspect of Gallagher I have a problem with in terms of trying to place him among the great guitar players. As he remained firmly rooted in blues and not much else, we didnt see him try to expand into more 'commercial' genres.
As regards Clapton, he's well regarded by his peers throughout many genres. That's enough for me.
Although, I can't not mention Joe Satriani in a thread about guitar greats so here goes....JOE SATRIANI FCUK YEAH!!!

scilover · 22-07-2020 03:45AM

guitarhappy wrote: »

Clapton is very open about the fact that he was seriously alcoholic when he was young. I guess he was something of a jerk.

He's been sober for a long time and I think he's highly respected by people who know him and other musicians. He has a good marriage and 3 lovely daughters now in their teens. He's done a lot of good in the world.

He's a great guitar player. More than that he's been a mentor and made other people famous. Listen to his Crossroads Guitar Festival DVD's. Other players like B.B. King, Hubert Sumlin, Derek Trucks, Warren Haynes, Vince Gill, sing his praises.

His 2 most recent videos, the final Japan tour one, or the one with J.J. Cale before he died, I think that was San Diego or Phoenix, they're great entertainment.

I'm a big Clapton fan because he's a great player and his touring hands with awesome musicians like Billy Preston, Derek Trucks, Chris Stainton, Steve Gadd, Nathan East, Steve Jordan....bands don't get better than this.

Watch his recent videos, you'll have to love them m

Yes, I agree as well. Sure, in the past he had some bad times but as time went on, he became better. He collaborated with so many talented musicians as well. He's very talented.

guitarhappy · 22-07-2020 05:16AM

scilover wrote: »

Yes, I agree as well. Sure, in the past he had some bad times but as time went on, he became better. He collaborated with so many talented musicians as well. He's very talented.

His discography is massive and over 55 years long. Some of what he did was more light-hearted or commercial entertainment. There's no doubt he's a seminal next generation interpreter of Blues in the Robert Johnson, B.B. King, Otis Rush, Freddie King, etc styles and took it to a higher level in the same vein, but his own style, without losing authenticity.

Even now at 70, with some deafness and neuropathy in his fingers, he's still capable of the most blazing solos. As a singer he has his own style and technique. He can be smooth as butter on love song ballads or growl with the best of them.

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! · 22-07-2020 05:23AM

Deleted User wrote: »

Clapton is wildly overrated, hasn't produced any fiery guitar solos since 1971 and Rory Gallagher was streets ahead of him in technique and feeling.

I don't honestly care if he was the biggest A-hole in history... when you've produced quality like "wonderful tonight", "Layla", "Tears in Heaven", "Change the world" etc etc... you can pretty much hang up your guitar and go home after that... you've achieved musical immortality in my book!

Rory Gallagher - great guitarist, no question. But he hasn't produced anything in terms of hit songs, that can even get close to Clapton's contribution to music history! Obviously musical tastes can differ, but objectively speaking Clapton will go down in history as being on a completely different level to Gallagher!

guitarhappy · 22-07-2020 06:08AM

River of Tears w/ Billie Preston and Steve Gadd. Clapton is also a truly great band leader. Billie Preston was a true icon, started in Ray Charles band. Gadd is almost symphonic, he revolutionized rock drumming.

https://youtu.be/pTVoM6x7tEg

Nightlife w/ Willie Nelson
https://youtu.be/d_800CRTrjE

He shows himself againbto be a mature singer and a blistering guitar player.

Trigger Happy · 22-07-2020 06:44AM

I read his autobiography once and found that he was a bit of a boring character. Generally a stay at home addict.
He was a decent musician though.

Hamsterchops · 22-07-2020 06:59AM

LETHAL LADY wrote: »

Eric Clapton was a disappointment!

When I saw this I thought he'd died ..
Lots of 'was' in this thread

Quick Google, Clapton was is great

I was fortunate enough to witness Eric & George H playing the Albert hall 1990-ish, amazing gig.

.anon. · 22-07-2020 07:05AM

Clapton? Claptout, more like!

(because he's clapped out)

Wibbs · 22-07-2020 07:07AM

guitarhappy wrote: »

Billie Preston was a true icon, started in Ray Charles band.

He was even a Beatle for a time.

As was Clapton. For a day anyway.

milehip · 22-07-2020 08:31AM

Dissapoinment? To his parents? in bed? Or just in general?

EmmetSpiceland · 22-07-2020 08:50AM

rapul wrote: »

As already said Rory Gallagher and Taste even was far better than oul slow hands and hendrix but alas the Irish are cursed! But yeah Clapton hasnt done anything good since Cream.

Cream are very good.

His stuff with Derek and the Dominos far outshines anything he did with Cream. The Layla album is his “masterpiece” and he never got close to that again.

Joe_ Public · 22-07-2020 08:56AM

Interviewer: "What does it feel like to be the worlds greatest guitarist?"

Hendrix: "Ask Rory Gallagher."

ohnonotgmail · 22-07-2020 08:57AM

Clapton is the subject of one of my favourite showbiz stories. Davina McCall was his girlfriend at the time he wrote Tears in Heaven. He played the song to her before it was released. she was so overcome with emotion she gave him a blowjob. True story.

Bobtheman · 22-07-2020 09:03AM

Clapton is your typical 1960s rock star. Did a huge amount of shagging/ drugs.
Whined about his best mate's wife. Got patti and then continued shagging.
Had serious problems with booze which to be fair to him he tackled.
He has some strange politics bordering on fascist. Look at what he says about Enoch Powell.
Music? I think he is probably over rated. He hugged the mainstream a bit too much . Not a rocker as such.
Rory Gallagher deserved more credit but rory never wrote for the mainstream so what do you expect??!

Bobtheman · 22-07-2020 09:04AM

ohnonotgmail wrote: »

Clapton is the subject of one of my favourite showbiz stories. Davina McCall was his girlfriend at the time he wrote Tears in Heaven. He played the song to her before it was released. she was so overcome with emotion she gave him a blowjob. True story.

Gee thanks for the image!!

ohnonotgmail · 22-07-2020 09:08AM

Bobtheman wrote: »

Gee thanks for the image!!

Its beautiful, isn't it?

Eric Clapton was a disappointment?

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