Should Obese Children be put into care?

gailforecast · 20-07-2020 8:19pm #1

Malnourished children are generally removed from abusive parents. Shouldn’t fat children be removed from parents, as this is the same level of abuse as under feeding?

Jim Root · 20-07-2020 8:20pm

I’d take stupid parents away first. Some people should require a licence to breed kids.

Church on Tuesday · 20-07-2020 8:21pm

They should be they never will be.

Rodney Bathgate · 20-07-2020 8:23pm

The Chinese government send the fat kids to boot camps where they are reprogrammed.

GunnerBlue · 20-07-2020 8:24pm

gailforecast wrote: »

Malnourished children are generally removed from abusive parents. Shouldn’t fat children be removed from parents, as this is the same level of abuse as under feeding?

It makes me so sad to see really overweight little kids

byhookorbycrook · 20-07-2020 8:27pm

Let’s face it , the “ care system “ in Ireland is totally dysfunctional, so, no.

accensi0n · 20-07-2020 8:29pm

Too many sausage sambos.

Deebles McBeebles · 20-07-2020 8:40pm

GunnerBlue wrote: »

It makes me so sad to see really overweight little kids

Different strokes for different folks, eh! It always makes me laugh loudly. Safe in the knowledge the parents will be too fat to catch me while I sing the Benny Hill theme tune.

Pkiernan · 20-07-2020 8:41pm

gailforecast wrote: »

Malnourished children are generally removed from abusive parents. Shouldn’t fat children be removed from parents, as this is the same level of abuse as under feeding?

No, but dole should be scrapped.

Leg End Reject · 20-07-2020 8:46pm

GunnerBlue wrote: »

It makes me so sad to see really overweight little kids

I find it sad too, they're going to be fat for life.

maherhonda · 20-07-2020 8:49pm

I'd rather if you can't afford a child it should be taken off you.

A life of welfare money and a free house should not be tolerated and should not exist.

the14thwarrior · 20-07-2020 8:51pm

dont be silly
they don't have enough room for children with mental health difficulties, behavioural difficulties, physical difficulties, parents on drugs and alcohol, and the state has a hard enough time to manage these issues, with parents rights etc. ruling the way

put fat kids into care?
how many care homes do you think there are?

and who are you to decide who is fat?
and it's the parents fault.............

One eyed Jack · 20-07-2020 8:58pm

gailforecast wrote: »

Malnourished children are generally removed from abusive parents. Shouldn’t fat children be removed from parents, as this is the same level of abuse as under feeding?

No they’re not?

Nor will overweight children be removed from their parents care either.

What could you possibly think it would achieve anyway? They are just as likely to be abused in State care, not that you’d have anywhere to put them all. It would be like suggesting we should remove stupid children from their parents care, clearly that didn’t happen either.

One eyed Jack · 20-07-2020 9:02pm

maherhonda wrote: »

I'd rather if you can't afford a child it should be taken off you.

A life of welfare money and a free house should not be tolerated and should not exist.

I’m guessing it’s never occurred to you that when children are taken into the care of the State, what becomes of them? Now you know.

gailforecast · 20-07-2020 9:04pm

the14thwarrior wrote: »

and who are you to decide who is fat?
and it's the parents fault.............

allowing a child to reach a bmi to 30-35 is completely abusive.

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 20-07-2020 9:17pm

Determine the cause of the obesity first, educate the parents on nuitirion and exercise second.

corner of hells · 20-07-2020 9:18pm

gailforecast wrote: »

Malnourished children are generally removed from abusive parents. Shouldn’t fat children be removed from parents, as this is the same level of abuse as under feeding?

I work in homeless services and occasionally with young men and young women who become homeless almost immediately after reaching 18 years of age after being in care as children.
It's a nightmare, devastating, significant amounts end up in addiction with little or no family contact often spending years in homeless services impacting on their physical and mental health .
I really dont think you're serious or if you are ,you haven't thought through the consequences of what you're suggesting.

20-07-2020 9:22pm

Is P.E still a treat in primary schools?

Gruffalux · 20-07-2020 9:24pm

Cheesus.

Blondini · 20-07-2020 9:25pm

the14thwarrior wrote: »

dont be silly
they don't have enough room for children ..............

Hee hee

Notmything · 20-07-2020 9:27pm

gailforecast wrote: »

Malnourished children are generally removed from abusive parents. Shouldn’t fat children be removed from parents, as this is the same level of abuse as under feeding?

Not a chance, the care system is not fit for purpose. It's becoming a for profit business.

The object of the children in care system is supposed to be about achieving a family reunification. Instead it's anything but, children are denied the resources needed. The state relies on private companies to meet its needs and many children come out worse than they went in.

And I work within the system.

Edit: Fwiw I don't think I've ever met a child who was taken into care due to malnourishment, usually multiple factors

the14thwarrior · 20-07-2020 9:27pm

no one said fat kids are healthy, and no one said every parent was smart

stop the thread before you put the needs of fat kids over kids that are, quite literally, mentally and phys. abused daily.
crap parents, crap lifestyle, no money, no prospects, kids are suffering daily in this country and you think fat kids should take priority?
they can lose the weight when they grow up

misguided to think it would work......
i hate threads like this when someone comes up with a stupid idea and expects people to get into a debate of whether its good or not, when dangerous kids are, at this moment, in very dsyfunctional homes because we do not have enough places. Do you have any idea of the sh&&t that is out there?

or no, wait, you do, and you want to put a fat kid into one of these places..... i'm sure the fat kid will feel safer and lose weight very quickly, because he will be so busy trying to run away the weight will just fall off him...............

eviltwin · 20-07-2020 9:28pm

Being familiar with the Irish care system I’d say being obese is the better option

meeeeh · 20-07-2020 9:28pm

Well nobody can say AH isn't reliably predictable.

20-07-2020 9:33pm

Sure OP. How many will you take in?

freshpopcorn · 20-07-2020 9:36pm

No, I'd just put the kids into care who are sent out without any socks on!

alroley · 20-07-2020 9:37pm

Children are much better off being obese than being in the Irish care system.

peckerhead · 20-07-2020 9:59pm

This has to be one of the most dumb-ass questions I've seen on AH in a while. And that's saying something.

Deebles McBeebles · 20-07-2020 10:05pm

I saw a good documentary on the life of an overweight American kid once. Turns out there is a link between being overweight as a child and psychopathic behaviour. He stabbed Rob Reiner and once fed another boys parents to him in a chili after having them shot. Had some serious anti-semitic views too. Very sad case.