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Madeleine McCann

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  • #3242
    MonsterCookie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭MonsterCookie


    according to the DM:

    The ECJ will publish their 'opinion' in three weeks' time, on 6th August. Their final judgement, which usually follows the opinion and is binding on courts across the EU, will be delivered soon afterwards.

    so it'll be next month before we know the outcome of CB's appeal.


  • #3243
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    flasher0030 wrote: »
    Plumb. You're hilarious. Only few comments back that you came out with this:-

    "I still believe the child never left the apartment alive, the dogs reactions in the apartment are too important to ignore imo why Gerry and Kate were so dismissive is strange. Their behaviour in the aftermath was strange. The timeline of events is a tough one even the experts cannot present a credible one to either prove innocence or guilt".

    "Personally I think it's time to take another close look at the McCanns and their wider circle as it existed in 2007."

    Assuming that there is credibility with the dogs. When, after a police investigation, it was concluded that there was noting in it. You're the king of assumptions. But hey - you're just keeping an open mind!! Right :rolleyes::rolleyes:;)

    I said what I think, I don't presume to tell others what they think or assign something to them they never said which is a familiar tactic of a poster here.
    Nothing hilarious at all.
    The dogs reacted the samples were too small to be conclusive.
    Might take you a while but you can check but I never claimed to have an open mind unless I see evidence to contradict what I think so far.
    But hey you just proved my point claiming others said something they didn't, thanks.


  • #3244
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Day Lewin wrote: »
    From twitter: opinions?

    Mark Williams-Thomas @ mwilliamsthomas

    "Over the past few weeks I have been working on identifying the user that called the #MadeleineMcCann suspect #ChristianBrückner on the evening Madeleine dissappeared. I have established very significant information which has been shared with German police."

    Excellent work, I hope he’s working under his own steam so it can’t be linked to any other bias. Has to be the caller or at least the IMEI of the phone to find where it was sold and to who. The German police might not be wrapping the case up just yet so.


  • #3245
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    splinter65 wrote: »
    If he does get out I think he’s going to find it a lot harder to travel around without being noticed unless he develops a disguise. His face has been all over the papers all over the EU for weeks.
    I think (I hope) his days of parking up the camper van in order to spread more misery are over.

    All he’s to do is grow a beard, put on a mask as is safe with covid, sunglasses and nobody will have a notion.


  • #3246
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,636 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    All he’s to do is grow a beard, put on a mask as is safe with covid, sunglasses and nobody will have a notion.

    And for how long will that last?

    He wouldn't last a week in Germany with that, probably less elsewhere with his distinctive accent.


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  • #3247
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    happyoutscan wrote: »
    And for how long will that last?

    He wouldn't last a week in Germany with that, probably less elsewhere with his distinctive accent.

    Dunno but I’m sure he’s been clever enough all these years even with the press heat on him. I’m hoping he doesn’t get a seconds peace either way.


  • #3248
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,636 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    Dunno but I’m sure he’s been clever enough all these years even with the press heat on him. I’m hoping he doesn’t get a seconds peace either way.

    More lucky than clever. He's a ****.

    I would hope that he doesn't get his comeuppance until it would be known whether or not he was definitely involved in Madeleine's disappearance. It would be a shame if he went to his grave without knowing exactly what he knows.

    He won't get much peace anyway!


  • #3249
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    happyoutscan wrote: »
    More lucky than clever. He's a ****.

    I would hope that he doesn't get his comeuppance until it would be known whether or not he was definitely involved in Madeleine's disappearance. It would be a shame if he went to his grave without knowing exactly what he knows.

    He won't get much peace anyway!

    That’s a fact. He’s a moving target if he gets out now to the extent where he’d be almost a suicide risk too. Best place for him and for the rest of us is that he’s kept under lock and key.


  • #3250
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    happyoutscan wrote: »
    More lucky than clever. He's a ****.

    I would hope that he doesn't get his comeuppance until it would be known whether or not he was definitely involved in Madeleine's disappearance. It would be a shame if he went to his grave without knowing exactly what he knows.

    He won't get much peace anyway!

    There’s a load to extract from him yet with other murders and crimes he’s suspected in.


  • #3251
    happyoutscan
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,636 ✭✭✭happyoutscan


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    There’s a load to extract from him yet with other murders and crimes he’s suspected in.

    You said it.


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  • #3252
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Banana Republic. wrote: »
    There’s a load to extract from him yet with other murders and crimes he’s suspected in.

    But not necessarily MMC though.

    Anyway we shall see what happens. Amazing that it took 13 years to get to this stage. And I know there have been other cases that were solved many years later too, hopefully this is one of them.

    Are the various police forces talking to each other on this, and has the famous letter been delivered?


  • #3253
    Banana Republic.
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,587 ✭✭✭Banana Republic.


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    But not necessarily MMC though.

    Anyway we shall see what happens. Amazing that it took 13 years to get to this stage. And I know there have been other cases that were solved many years later too, hopefully this is one of them.

    Are the various police forces talking to each other on this, and has the famous letter been delivered?

    Well it’s taken this time because of his crimes since 2007 have made him a red hot suspect and then information from former partners and friends so in 2007 he wasn’t on the sexy offenders list when he should of actually been. This is how he would of gotten away with the abduction if it is him cause he was under the radar at the time.


  • #3254
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8534831/amp/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckners-girlfriend-finally-unmasked.html

    Very interesting. I wonder if these pics are recent? She’s not suspected herself I see, just the tipp off.


  • #3255
    2u2me
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,693 ✭✭✭2u2me


    I'm deeply regretful that I created this thread. The amount of time and energy wasted going around in circles is a crime against humanity.


  • #3256
    Spanish Eyes
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,130 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    2u2me wrote: »
    I'm deeply regretful that I created this thread. The amount of time and energy wasted going around in circles is a crime against humanity.

    Why, you have given many a poster time to bitch and moan, speculate and castigate others. It is topical and interesting.

    You don't have to join in if you don't want to, but I for one think you created the thread at a good time for some kind of news. Have no regrets my friend.

    The thread will just go to sleep for a while now anyway since it will be a few months before we know anything about the alleged abductor.

    Good on you.


  • #3257
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭maebee


    2u2me wrote: »
    I'm deeply regretful that I created this thread. The amount of time and energy wasted going around in circles is a crime against humanity.

    I don't think you are. You created this thread for discussion and that is what happened. Job done.


  • #3258
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    2u2me wrote: »
    I'm deeply regretful that I created this thread. The amount of time and energy wasted going around in circles is a crime against humanity.

    It's not your fault that so far it has appeared to be a false dawn. You like many others hoped it would be an end to the mystery , prehaps MWT may have provided the German authorities with significant evidence .
    Its a divisive topic, people see things differently some allow for a difference of opinion others are vehemently opposed to any opinion this disagree with as evidenced recently.
    I have my own opinion as to what happened and nothing I have read or learned in the last 13 years has changed my position, I have no issue if I 'm proved wrong.
    The overriding issue here is though, a young child was failed by those tasked with insuring her safety. Dress it up any way you want but that is undeniable fact.


  • #3259
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    It's not your fault that so far it has appeared to be a false dawn. You like many others hoped it would be an end to the mystery , prehaps MWT may have provided the German authorities with significant evidence .
    Its a divisive topic, people see things differently some allow for a difference of opinion others are vehemently opposed to any opinion this disagree with as evidenced recently.
    I have my own opinion as to what happened and nothing I have read or learned in the last 13 years has changed my position, I have no issue if I 'm proved wrong.
    The overriding issue here is though, a young child was failed by those tasked with insuring her safety. Dress it up any way you want but that is undeniable fact.

    The only thing missing is that you actually share with us what you think happened. What, where, when, how, why and who. I recognise that it’s the “how” that’s the big problem as it is for 100% of the observers who have the same “opinion” as you.
    I guess you don’t have to but you choose not to. All we can do is draw our own conclusions from your secrecy and that’s what we do. That’s pretty much it.


  • #3260
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Spanish Eyes wrote: »
    Why, you have given many a poster time to bitch and moan, speculate and castigate others. It is topical and interesting.

    You don't have to join in if you don't want to, but I for one think you created the thread at a good time for some kind of news. Have no regrets my friend.

    The thread will just go to sleep for a while now anyway since it will be a few months before we know anything about the alleged abductor.

    Good on you.

    Ah it’s not gone to sleep now though Spanish Eyes. You keep trying to insist that the German guy is over but you’ve not seen the latest.
    The woman described by Jane Tanner?
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8534831/amp/Madeleine-McCann-suspect-Christian-Brueckners-girlfriend-finally-unmasked.html


  • #3261
    Plumbthedepths
    Closed Accounts Posts: 12,653 ✭✭✭✭Plumbthedepths


    splinter65 wrote: »
    The only thing missing is that you actually share with us what you think happened. What, where, when, how, why and who. I recognise that it’s the “how” that’s the big problem as it is for 100% of the observers who have the same “opinion” as you.
    I guess you don’t have to but you choose not to. All we can do is draw our own conclusions from your secrecy and that’s what we do. That’s pretty much it.

    Have you ever wondered why very few are willing to engage with you? Could it be your inability to accept a different opinion. You have been banned on several of the McCann threads for good reason.
    I have answered your questions to another poster, you however are not worthy of the same effort.


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  • #3262
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭maebee


    3 days after Madeleine's disappearance, Gerry McCann was filmed laughing and joking on their balcony. Very strange. They never physically searched for Madeleine but went jogging and blogging about their jog times.

    He went to the U.S., when she was most definitely not there.


  • #3263
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Plumbthedepths wrote: »
    Have you ever wondered why very few are willing to engage with you? Could it be your inability to accept a different opinion. You have been banned on several of the McCann threads for good reason.
    I have answered your questions to another poster, you however are not worthy of the same effort.

    But we don’t know what your opinion is to either accept or not accept?


  • #3264
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    maebee wrote: »
    3 days after Madeleine's disappearance, Gerry McCann was filmed laughing and joking on their balcony. Very strange. They never physically searched for Madeleine but went jogging and blogging about their jog times.

    He went to the U.S., where she was definitely not there.

    That is an outright lie, you don’t half post a load of deceptive hyperbole. They searched themselves along with other tourists, hotel staff and the GNR until 4am and then went back out again at first light the next morning to look for her some more.

    They first went jogging on May 16th, 13 days after Madeleines disappearance.
    I’m quite perplexed at how this can be perceived as suspicious when exercising is one of the most wholesome, healthy ways to deal with stress and anxiety. A far better coping method than drinking, smoking or taking drugs.

    Look up press reports from the days and weeks following Madeleines disappearance and you will find 99.999% of photos show them as anguished, distressed, and heartbroken parents.
    But no, you zone in on the one video clip of him looking animated when there are literally hundreds of photos of him looking like he’s about to have a breakdown. Laughing isn’t illegal nor is it a sign of criminal activity, and the photos of him looking upset far, far outweigh that one clip of him smiling.
    You only see what suits your own agenda.


  • #3265
    MonsterCookie
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 959 ✭✭✭MonsterCookie


    maebee wrote: »
    3 days after Madeleine's disappearance, Gerry McCann was filmed laughing and joking on their balcony. Very strange. They never physically searched for Madeleine but went jogging and blogging about their jog times.

    He went to the U.S., when she was most definitely not there.

    so what are you saying then. that he disposed of the body and the reason he was seen laughing and joking was that he knew he had committed the perfect crime and had fooled everyone into looking for the wee girl? god, if only the police had investigated the PARENTS at the time, instead of wasting their time following up on other leads....???


  • #3266
    Leftwaffe
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,558 ✭✭✭Leftwaffe


    I don't think the parents done it at all but the Maddie Podcast threw up some weird stuff. It would make you think, for a second. Then you realise it's rediculous. The logistics of them doing it just doesn't add up.


  • #3267
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    maebee wrote: »
    3 days after Madeleine's disappearance, Gerry McCann was filmed laughing and joking on their balcony. Very strange. They never physically searched for Madeleine but went jogging and blogging about their jog times.

    He went to the U.S., when she was most definitely not there.

    How is it that we’ve never heard this sensational information before? If only I’d known this before I’d never have spent all this time defending them! Laughing and joking you say! Well that seals it once and for all. Guilty guilty guilty.
    Do you know the only other thing more damning I could imagine then laughing and joking on a balcony? If somebody told me that they were playing tennis the next day.
    I mean I don’t need to have pictures of them playing tennis it would just be enough if I had read it somewhere and then I could have kept repeating it over and over and over again for 13 years as proof that they were guilty even when everyone else says their not.
    Any more breaking news?


  • #3268
    v638sg7k1a92bx
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    joeguevara wrote: »
    Conclusively prove? Didn't know this was the crown prosecuting service.

    As for wild speculation and tinfoil speculation, why is it so distasteful to raise the following: a child was abducted. The childs parents became very close friends with someone who transpired to be a paedophile.

    How does that implicate the parents?


  • #3269
    Strumms
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 26,914 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    It’s the most weird, mysterious, fûcked up crime and subsequent investigation I’ve heard of. I’m willing to believe that nobody will ever be held accountable... unless a third party say a friend or family members knows or stumbled upon something, say via a drunken admission or whatever, or a body turns up.

    Do the police now KNOW what happened and just lack the direct evidence to prove it, or is it a mystery to them like it is us.


  • #3270
    maebee
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,761 ✭✭✭maebee


    MonsterCookie wrote: »
    so what are you saying then. that he disposed of the body and the reason he was seen laughing and joking was that he knew he had committed the perfect crime and had fooled everyone into looking for the wee girl? god, if only the police had investigated the PARENTS at the time, instead of wasting their time following up on other leads....???

    What? I didn't say he disposed of the body :(. I thought it was very strange that he was laughing and joking days after his 3 year old daughter was "abducted".

    If my child was presumed abducted, I would not be laughing and joking. And I would be not not jogging and blogging about my running times.


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  • #3271
    Rock77
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,123 ✭✭✭Rock77


    Redordeadqwwer wrote: »
    I don't think the parents done it at all but the Maddie Podcast threw up some weird stuff. It would make you think, for a second. Then you realise it's rediculous. The logistics of them doing it just doesn't add up.

    Hey Red, I haven’t heard the podcast.. what were the weird things that you heard on it?


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