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Advice needed on external 3G/4G antenna

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    #242
    Ultimanemo
    Registered Users Posts: 890 ✭✭✭Ultimanemo


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Ok, the cables on my current cheapo antenna got broke so going to buy something new.....

    So is this any good?

    https://www.irishwireless.net/3g-4g-antennas/xpol-a0001

    Or what should I be looking out for. I think I started a thread before but I cannot find for life of me.....
    Yes I have one

    But this is marginally better, but you have to direct it to the mast

    https://www.marotec.it/en/antennas-for-modem-router-3g/611-antenna-log-mrt-8727l-for-4g-lte-3g-with-h155-10mt-cable-and-sma-m.html


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    #243
    Kalyke
    Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭Kalyke


    homingbird wrote: »
    For anyone looking for a external router i have ordered one .
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33008995315.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.11344c4doBJHlI

    Also a good app from the playstore is openSignal it does alot & will help you find the best place to position your aerial outdoor router.
    Did you receive this yet?


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    #244
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    Ultimanemo wrote: »
    Yes I have one

    But this is marginally better, but you have to direct it to the mast

    https://www.marotec.it/en/antennas-for-modem-router-3g/611-antenna-log-mrt-8727l-for-4g-lte-3g-with-h155-10mt-cable-and-sma-m.html


    Thanks, I just have one of these


    https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/35dBi-4G-LTE-Dual-MIMO-Antenna-Booster-Aerial-TS9-Plug-Cable-For-Huawei-BI622-UK/223240216880?epid=2158599831&hash=item33fa276130:g:E5QAAOSwsBdbrNFJ


    I guess anything will be an upgrade?


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    #245
    homingbird
    Registered Users Posts: 1,272 ✭✭✭homingbird


    Kalyke wrote: »
    Did you receive this yet?
    Still waiting i should have it in the next 10 day when it comes i will let you know.


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    #246
    Kalyke
    Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭Kalyke


    homingbird wrote: »
    For anyone looking for a external router i have ordered one .
    https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33008995315.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.11344c4doBJHlI

    Also a good app from the playstore is openSignal it does alot & will help you find the best place to position your aerial outdoor router.

    Got this this morning. So far so good but will give it a good test at the weekend. Out of the box the interface menu was in Chinese. I messed up, reset the router and now the menu is in English!


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    #247
    BArra
    Registered Users Posts: 4,032 ✭✭✭BArra


    Kalyke wrote: »
    Got this this morning. So far so good but will give it a good test at the weekend. Out of the box the interface menu was in Chinese. I messed up, reset the router and now the menu is in English!

    how is performance and your rough distance from 4g masts?


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    #248
    M5
    Registered Users Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    I had similar issue to those mentioned above. bought this antenna

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00C1DGGKC/ref=pe_3187911_189395841_TE_dp_1

    Previous was topping about 6-10 meg with 15meg overnight on 2 bars with huawei 315 4g router

    Installed and aligned the antenna above and get 30meg during peak and 60 or so at night and now get 5 bars consistently.

    Im on an elevated site 2.5km from mast and will have line of site or virtually unobstructed at worst


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    #249
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    M5 wrote: »
    I had similar issue to those mentioned above. bought this antenna

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00C1DGGKC/ref=pe_3187911_189395841_TE_dp_1

    Previous was topping about 6-10 meg with 15meg overnight on 2 bars with huawei 315 4g router

    Installed and aligned the antenna above and get 30meg during peak and 60 or so at night and now get 5 bars consistently.

    Im on an elevated site 2.5km from mast and will have line of site or virtually unobstructed at worst


    Whats the difference with this?



    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00C1DGFPS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    I see the gain but what does that mean :-) :P


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    #250
    Ten Pin
    Registered Users Posts: 2,816 ✭✭✭Ten Pin


    Whats the difference with this?



    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00C1DGFPS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    I see the gain but what does that mean :-) :P

    AFAIK one is directional while the other is omni directional.

    Directional antennas have higher gain.

    Omni directional model will give signal reception from more directions but gain is lower.


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    #251
    M5
    Registered Users Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    Whats the difference with this?



    https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00C1DGFPS/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


    I see the gain but what does that mean :-) :P

    You need to align the one in my post, the other you dont... You get a higher gain as you are pointing straight at the mast (in reality +/- 5' makes little difference with the directional one from what I have seen)

    TLDR the more expensive one will work much better when aligned than the omni directional ever will


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    #252
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    I guess higher gain will result in higher speeds? Thanks


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    #253
    M5
    Registered Users Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
    I guess higher gain will result in higher speeds? Thanks

    Better signal, and therefore better speeds. In theory!

    If you are 500m from an antenna it won't make that much, in more marginal condition the impact will be greater.


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    #254
    kevovek
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭kevovek


    Didnt want to start a new thread for this, I was just wondering is anyone using an external antenna for the Huawei B818? I have a antenna already but it has SMA connectors and this needs TS9 so I'll need to pick up adapters somewhere. And they cant be bulky like most ive seen because the TS9 plugs on the Huawei B818 are quite close together from video reviews Ive seen. Main question is where is a good place to buy the adapters preferably somewhere Irish to save time on delivery but open to other suggestions too.


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    #255
    Shefwedfan
    Closed Accounts Posts: 18,958 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    kevovek wrote: »
    Didnt want to start a new thread for this, I was just wondering is anyone using an external antenna for the Huawei B818? I have a antenna already but it has SMA connectors and this needs TS9 so I'll need to pick up adapters somewhere. And they cant be bulky like most ive seen because the TS9 plugs on the Huawei B818 are quite close together from video reviews Ive seen. Main question is where is a good place to buy the adapters preferably somewhere Irish to save time on delivery but open to other suggestions too.


    Whats the SMA one you have now? selling it? :-)


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    #256
    kevovek
    Closed Accounts Posts: 678 ✭✭✭kevovek


    Not sure if your talking about the antenna or the router but I'm going to hold on to both of them anyway, if I happen to be doing some heavy duty downloading a particular month Id like to keep my B315s which is on the three network as a back up.


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    #257
    Daz_
    Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Daz_


    kevovek wrote: »
    Didnt want to start a new thread for this, I was just wondering is anyone using an external antenna for the Huawei B818? I have a antenna already but it has SMA connectors and this needs TS9 so I'll need to pick up adapters somewhere. And they cant be bulky like most ive seen because the TS9 plugs on the Huawei B818 are quite close together from video reviews Ive seen. Main question is where is a good place to buy the adapters preferably somewhere Irish to save time on delivery but open to other suggestions too.

    I’m in contact with Cell Net at the moment via email as I’m thinking of getting an LTE antenna for my mobile broadband .

    They have been great so far dealing with my questions about it etc. guess they might have accessories .


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    #258
    heffo500
    Registered Users Posts: 963 ✭✭✭heffo500


    kevovek wrote: »
    Didnt want to start a new thread for this, I was just wondering is anyone using an external antenna for the Huawei B818? I have a antenna already but it has SMA connectors and this needs TS9 so I'll need to pick up adapters somewhere. And they cant be bulky like most ive seen because the TS9 plugs on the Huawei B818 are quite close together from video reviews Ive seen. Main question is where is a good place to buy the adapters preferably somewhere Irish to save time on delivery but open to other suggestions too.

    Let me know if you go ahead with this and how much your speed improves by.


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    #259
    dos29
    Registered Users Posts: 540 ✭✭✭dos29


    kevovek wrote: »
    Didnt want to start a new thread for this, I was just wondering is anyone using an external antenna for the Huawei B818? I have a antenna already but it has SMA connectors and this needs TS9 so I'll need to pick up adapters somewhere. And they cant be bulky like most ive seen because the TS9 plugs on the Huawei B818 are quite close together from video reviews Ive seen. Main question is where is a good place to buy the adapters preferably somewhere Irish to save time on delivery but open to other suggestions too.

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0776L8VCQ/ref=cm_sw_r_wa_apa_i_DteVEbT5GJE6J


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    #260
    TMC99
    Registered Users Posts: 190 ✭✭TMC99


    Kalyke wrote: »
    Got this this morning. So far so good but will give it a good test at the weekend. Out of the box the interface menu was in Chinese. I messed up, reset the router and now the menu is in English!

    Sorry to drag up an old one, but how did this perform for you? Are the antennas detachable?
    Looking at getting one myself


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    #261
    Daz_
    Registered Users Posts: 930 ✭✭✭Daz_


    I got a directional antenna 4G antenna and it didnt improve my speeds at all .
    Also would recommend avoiding a company called satelliteTV iE . wouldn’t take the product back under any circumstances .


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    #262
    smuggler.ie
    Registered Users Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    Daz_ wrote: »
    I got a directional antenna 4G antenna and it didnt improve my speeds at all.
    What have you got? link?
    history of boards 2021




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    #263
    Kalyke
    Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭Kalyke


    TMC99 wrote: »
    Sorry to drag up an old one, but how did this perform for you? Are the antennas detachable?
    Looking at getting one myself
    It works great. I use it indoors. The antennas are detachable.


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    #264
    oppiuy
    Registered Users Posts: 886 ✭✭✭oppiuy


    I just purchase this today and am wondering does it help with mobile phone signal for calls or is it just broadband signal


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    #265
    n1st
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭n1st


    Hi,
    I'm late to this thread.

    The coverage suggest Vodafone coverage is Good, however inside the house it's just 1 bar.
    https://coveragemap.comreg.ie/map?location=53.549539,-8.1204&technology=4g&network=vodafone&place_id=ChIJaQfbDF85XEgRpHUBXqYpCa0


    Could a 4G Antenna work for us?

    Can one be mounted externally on the chimney for example to improve the signal?


    4G for use for work purposes, email etc, not streaming movies or gaming.

    Thanks,


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    #266
    smuggler.ie
    Registered Users Posts: 4,097 ✭✭✭smuggler.ie


    n1st wrote: »
    Hi,
    I'm late to this thread.

    The coverage suggest Vodafone coverage is Good, however inside the house it's just 1 bar.
    https://coveragemap.comreg.ie/map?location=53.549539,-8.1204&technology=4g&network=vodafone&place_id=ChIJaQfbDF85XEgRpHUBXqYpCa0


    Could a 4G Antenna work for us?

    Can one be mounted externally on the chimney for example to improve the signal?


    4G for use for work purposes, email etc, not streaming movies or gaming.

    Thanks,
    It should
    For Vodafone:
    North-West site ~4km and North-East site ~3.5km are 3G only:
    https://siteviewer.comreg.ie/#site/RN048/53.5740277085/-8.1623344764/1/Site%20RN048
    https://siteviewer.comreg.ie/#site/RN028/53.5717370748/-8.0826116562/1/Site%20RN028

    South-East site ~5km is 4G(LTE)
    https://siteviewer.comreg.ie/#site/RN050/53.5139017122/-8.0698375278/1/Site%20RN050
    history of boards 2021




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    #267
    TMC99
    Registered Users Posts: 190 ✭✭TMC99


    Kalyke wrote: »
    It works great. I use it indoors. The antennas are detachable.

    Thanks for that, do you know what type of antenna connector it has, tried to see on their site but its not shown


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    #268
    Kalyke
    Registered Users Posts: 1,251 ✭✭✭Kalyke


    Will check it out.


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    #269
    SmashingPilot
    Registered Users Posts: 540 ✭✭✭SmashingPilot


    Hi,

    I'm looking for more information on wether a 4G antenna will be useful for my situation.

    We have a holiday home in Rosslare and would like to get some wifi there. The ideal solution would be a PAYG provider such as Three. However, the phone signal in the house is so poor with most providers, have tried eir, Vodafone and Three. Eir have probably been the best in terms of signal.

    The following masts are closest to the house, only a 2 minute walk away but signal is still so poor:
    https://siteviewer.comreg.ie/#site/3_WX0015/52.2748260651/-6.3874976484/1/Site%203_WX0015

    According to the coverage map on their website, Three should have 4G signal there.

    So my question is, would an external 4G antenna pick up a strong enough signal to be useful? Or what's the best way to go about testing this?

    EDIT: I've used the comreg coverage map now and it seems GoMo (Eir) do indeed have the best coverage (Very Good), followed by Three (Good) and then Vodafone (Fringe).


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    #270
    paddy19
    Registered Users Posts: 1,142 ✭✭✭paddy19


    SmashingPilot wrote: »
    Hi,

    I'm looking for more information on wether a 4G antenna will be useful for my situation.

    We have a holiday home in Rosslare and would like to get some wifi there. The ideal solution would be a PAYG provider such as Three. However, the phone signal in the house is so poor with most providers, have tried eir, Vodafone and Three. Eir have probably been the best in terms of signal.

    The following masts are closest to the house, only a 2 minute walk away but signal is still so poor:
    https://siteviewer.comreg.ie/#site/3_WX0015/52.2748260651/-6.3874976484/1/Site%203_WX0015

    According to the coverage map on their website, Three should have 4G signal there.

    So my question is, would an external 4G antenna pick up a strong enough signal to be useful? Or what's the best way to go about testing this?

    EDIT: I've used the comreg coverage map now and it seems GoMo (Eir) do indeed have the best coverage (Very Good), followed by Three (Good) and then Vodafone (Fringe).

    GoMo and Eir are the same from a signal point of view.

    So best to get a free Eir sim and test coverage using your phone.
    https://www.eir.ie/mobile/prepay/free-sim-cards/

    There are several apps you can use to measure signal strength.
    Take a wander inside and outside to see where is the best spot for a good signal.
    Line of sight to the mast helps.
    If you really want to get into this have a look at Sean's site.
    https://editorsean.com/articles/3g4g-mobile-broadband-antenna-troubleshooting/

    He's the man on 4g!
    If that works halfway well you can order a GoMo sim.


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    #271
    ED E
    Registered Users Posts: 36,167 ✭✭✭✭ED E


    SmashingPilot wrote: »
    Hi,

    I'm looking for more information on wether a 4G antenna will be useful for my situation.

    We have a holiday home in Rosslare and would like to get some wifi there. The ideal solution would be a PAYG provider such as Three. However, the phone signal in the house is so poor with most providers, have tried eir, Vodafone and Three. Eir have probably been the best in terms of signal.

    The following masts are closest to the house, only a 2 minute walk away but signal is still so poor:
    https://siteviewer.comreg.ie/#site/3_WX0015/52.2748260651/-6.3874976484/1/Site%203_WX0015

    According to the coverage map on their website, Three should have 4G signal there.

    So my question is, would an external 4G antenna pick up a strong enough signal to be useful? Or what's the best way to go about testing this?

    EDIT: I've used the comreg coverage map now and it seems GoMo (Eir) do indeed have the best coverage (Very Good), followed by Three (Good) and then Vodafone (Fringe).

    The map is a fever dream, its not based on any useable data.

    You're far better off testing yourself.


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