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Pubs Closed - The Poor Drunks

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  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    I don't get this thing of getting a pint delivered to your house in a plastic glass.

    Where's the thrill in this? A few likes on social media?

    "Aren't I mad?"?

    :confused:

    Why not just buy a beer in the shop and pour it into a proper glass?

    Beer from a keg is nicer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    Sadly you'll always get idiots doing the latest gimmick and posting it online. Sure we have a whole sub-culture of instagramers now.

    But supporting your local pub? Nope.
    It's a business and having a few beers is nothing more than a business transaction.
    You support your family and those closest to you in this world.

    Some local randomer could have spent thousands down his local over the years. However if he cannot pay next month's rent the local pub isn't going to support him.

    It is possible to both support your family and local businesses. A pub is a social outlet where many people enjoy meeting up with friends, and know the bar staff/ owner. You pay money to have your pints pulled in comfortable surroundings and have a bit of craic.

    Its a bit bizarre to suggest that because the pub won't financially support you in tougher times (name a business that does?) that they should go out of business. If people want to show their support by buying a few pints, then thats their prerogative


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,299 ✭✭✭✭Zebra3


    Beer from a keg is nicer.

    In a plastic glass?


  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    In a plastic glass?

    No, not in a plastic cup. Most are doing them in glass though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,980 ✭✭✭buried


    I think the pubs are finished. Even if the thing is lifted and everything tries to go back to the way it was, the pubs are really going to be the ones dealing with "a new normal" that they can't actually deal with. Half of it is their own fault, the vintners in the past and up until now have point blank refused any sort of change that could have actual been beneficial to their business, their own lobby group was so intertwined with successive governments meant that they were so interconnected with these governments that they never thought they had to change. Never had to think outside the box, never had to think "what if". Too cosy, too set in their ways, too relaxed and now just like anything else that gets in that sort of mindset, they are about to be eaten alive. I hope they come back, don't like them myself but I've nothing against anyone that wants to get a living from a market that is surely there but they should have tried moved forward before this and not remain stagnant anyways.

    Bullet The Blue Shirts



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    It is possible to both support your family and local businesses. A pub is a social outlet where many people enjoy meeting up with friends, and know the bar staff/ owner. You pay money to have your pints pulled in comfortable surroundings and have a bit of craic.

    Its a bit bizarre to suggest that because the pub won't financially support you in tougher times (name a business that does?) that they should go out of business. If people want to show their support by buying a few pints, then thats their prerogative

    It's a business transaction. The sole purpose for a pubs existence is to make money. What you described - atmosphere the craic etc - is a reason why you go to a pub. To get entertained or what not. But it is a business transaction. It's not free. You walk into a pub with 8 cans you got from Lidl see what they say :pac:


    But the point I was making about supporting them is don't. It's a business :pac:
    It's like Netflix. I purchase it each month cause I want to watch things. What they offer. I don't subscribe because "ah I wanna show Netflix my support" - the second I think there's nothing on it any more I will cancel.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,484 ✭✭✭Andrew00


    All the aul lads in the pub at 11am


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    It's easy to say there's no need for the pubs if you're younger with a partner or wide circle of friends and family.

    What about the bachelor farmer who runs a small holding on his own and goes down the local every night just for two pints and a bit of company and chat with other farmers?

    Friday night might be the big night out when they all get together to watch the Late Late, even if they're only slagging it.

    The rituals are very important for older men's mental health, they don't have other outlets for this type of thing. I'd hate to see all the small locals close down.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,533 ✭✭✭ArnoldJRimmer


    It's a business transaction. The sole purpose for a pubs existence is to make money. What you described - atmosphere the craic etc - is a reason why you go to a pub. To get entertained or what not. But it is a business transaction. It's not free. You walk into a pub with 8 cans you got from Lidl see what they say :pac:


    But the point I was making about supporting them is don't. It's a business :pac:
    It's like Netflix. I purchase it each month cause I want to watch things. What they offer. I don't subscribe because "ah I wanna show Netflix my support" - the second I think there's nothing on it any more I will cancel.

    Ignoring the condescending tone of your first paragraph (businesses exist to make money? ya don't say), there is a massive difference between supporting small businesses in a locality, and one of the largest companies in the world in Netflix.

    But we do seem to have a different outlook here. You're happy enough to get a few cans in Lidl which is grand, others like the social aspect of a few pints. If the pub has to close for a few months during Covid, and then can't afford to re-open, that social outlet is gone. Or replaced with some sh!thole like Wetherspoons. So if people decide to spend their own money supporting their own community, then I am fully behind this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,295 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    I know a few of the hardened high stool merchants and I must say the restrictions are having a severe, severe impact on their mental health.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,197 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    I know a few of the hardened high stool merchants and I must say the restrictions are having a severe, severe impact on their mental health.

    I'd say this is more the case. And what my first post was about.

    I genuinely feel sorry for them - as it was genuinely their life. All these lads have a story , something that went wrong with them or their life. I've a natural curiosity about them.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,245 ✭✭✭Gretas Gonna Get Ya!


    I'd say this is more the case. And what my first post was about.

    I genuinely feel sorry for them - as it was genuinely their life. All these lads have a story , something that went wrong with them or their life. I've a natural curiosity about them.

    There is a fairly good chance that alcohol had a part to play in some of the things that went wrong in their lives...

    Alcohol and the establishments that promote and sell it, destroy more lives in this country than any other addictive drug. (By country mile)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,309 ✭✭✭✭B.A._Baracus


    Ignoring the condescending tone of your first paragraph (businesses exist to make money? ya don't say), there is a massive difference between supporting small businesses in a locality, and one of the largest companies in the world in Netflix.

    But we do seem to have a different outlook here. You're happy enough to get a few cans in Lidl which is grand, others like the social aspect of a few pints. If the pub has to close for a few months during Covid, and then can't afford to re-open, that social outlet is gone. Or replaced with some sh!thole like Wetherspoons. So if people decide to spend their own money supporting their own community, then I am fully behind this.

    Actually it wasn't condescending. If you chose to read it that way then it's on you.

    But it does feel like we are having two different conversations now. I mentioned cans from Lidl as a reference to try and bring them into a pub and drink them and to be told where to go (IE, it's a business)

    You took that as "I love having Lidl cans than going the pub" then based a retort around it - so you're taking me up wrong or you're twisting. Which one is it?

    Anyways I expect you will be ringing up your local to try and gets pints delivered at some point. Because if you don't then you're talking sh*te :pac: all hot air. My stance is f*ck supporting and I'm currently seeing that through by doing that as we speak :pac:


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 122 ✭✭Chicoso


    .

    Alcohol and the establishments that promote and sell it, destroy more lives in this country than any other addictive drug. (By country mile)

    Just left supervalu

    Gave them a good bollokking going out the door


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,188 ✭✭✭✭Strumms


    Fu*king ejjits :pac:
    As you say you can go to the off license and get 2-3 Cans of whatever for the same price as the so called mobile-pulled-pint sh*t.

    You’d want to be fuçking soft in the head to pay some crowd to be delivering you your pints in this climate. The usual attention seekers no doubt. The ohhh look I can, cool, so I will, the whole story on Facebook...zzzzzzz brigade.

    Cans, in the fridge, just get up and go grab one when you want. No interaction required with any fûcker, zero chance of transmission of a very serious disease.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    Zebra3 wrote: »
    I don't get this thing of getting a pint delivered to your house in a plastic glass.

    Where's the thrill in this? A few likes on social media?

    "Aren't I mad?"?

    :confused:

    Why not just buy a beer in the shop and pour it into a proper glass?

    Ordered a couple from a D12 establishment just to see what the fuss was about! Made me realize more that I don’t miss the pubs and you can easily recreate the pint from a can!!
    Even the Guinness felt a bit meh ! Silly carry on


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,197 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    major bill wrote: »
    Ordered a couple from a D12 establishment just to see what the fuss was about! Made me realize more that I don’t miss the pubs and you can easily recreate the pint from a can!!
    Even the Guinness felt a bit meh ! Silly carry on

    Didn't fall for it - and anyone who did hasn't a clue about Guinness.

    And then paying extra for it - clowns.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,351 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Read a piece today that said Irish pubs are going to be more like pubs on the continent from here onwards.

    RIP the Irish pub.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,197 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Read a piece today that said Irish pubs are going to be more like pubs on the continent from here onwards.

    RIP the Irish pub.

    I think the talk of the downfall of the Irish pub - will be completely wide of the mark.

    The great pubs that are left in Dublin - will never go.

    Covid will be gone and we will be back to normal at some point.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 37,351 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    I think the talk of the downfall of the Irish pub - will be completely wide of the mark.

    The great pubs that are left in Dublin - will never go.

    Covid will be gone and we will be back to normal at some point.

    I really hope you are right.
    There is nothing on the continent to compare to a lively, jumping Irish pub.

    I have seen first hand how much visitors to Ireland enjoy them, and if we were to turn into what is classed as a pub on the continent, it would be a sad day.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,964 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    I don't mind an occasional pint but the obsessive "When will the pubs reopen?" stuff on this forum alone is a bit disturbing TBH.

    I thought we were moving past the reliance on drink/pubs as the primary social outlet. Guess not


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,421 ✭✭✭major bill


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I don't mind an occasional pint but the obsessive "When will the pubs reopen?" stuff on this forum alone is a bit disturbing TBH.

    I thought we were moving past the reliance on drink/pubs as the primary social outlet. Guess not

    I hope they open soon because in my eyes I feel that’s the first real sign of things going back to normal! That said couldn’t be arsed going back into them straight away if it’s gonna have all social distancing rules etc! It just won’t be the same! It’s cans for me for the foreseeable future!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,122 ✭✭✭✭Charlie19


    I had heard rumors that my local was opening up this weekend so I drove past earlier and there was dozens of people drinking pints in the carpark. I wonder will the pub be allowed to continue this practice.


  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Read a piece today that said Irish pubs are going to be more like pubs on the continent from here onwards.

    RIP the Irish pub.

    A lot of people are desperate for that to be the case so any of them with an opportunity to peddle it will do so.


  • Posts: 7,852 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I don't mind an occasional pint but the obsessive "When will the pubs reopen?" stuff on this forum alone is a bit disturbing TBH.

    I thought we were moving past the reliance on drink/pubs as the primary social outlet. Guess not

    Guess not indeed, and there’s not a thing wrong with it. Doubt anyone is going to be dragging you to them anyway so don’t worry.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Guess not indeed, and there’s not a thing wrong with it. Doubt anyone is going to be dragging you to them anyway so don’t worry.

    :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,197 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    Charlie19 wrote: »
    I had heard rumors that my local was opening up this weekend so I drove past earlier and there was dozens of people drinking pints in the carpark. I wonder will the pub be allowed to continue this practice.

    where


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,197 ✭✭✭✭FixdePitchmark


    _Kaiser_ wrote: »
    I don't mind an occasional pint but the obsessive "When will the pubs reopen?" stuff on this forum alone is a bit disturbing TBH.

    I thought we were moving past the reliance on drink/pubs as the primary social outlet. Guess not

    Honestly, disturbing ?

    Jaysus - you have had an easy life if you find that disturbing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,534 ✭✭✭Chalk McHugh


    Im off the drink 4 months but looking forward to having a ramble around town and all my regular haunts on the 29 June. Just to see the lay of the land. See what pubs are open. Is their queue's? Or time slots inside. Is there people out celebrating early doors because of our new found 'freedom'?

    I walked around Temple Bar the day or two before Lockdown and all pubs were closed and it was eerie. I walked across to Abbey St and with very few places open i resorted to having a coffee (which i never do) in Arnotts and pondered to myself what lay ahead? It was a very worrying time and you could feel the despondancy in the air. The city was dead and id never seen it like that.

    I am looking forward to doing the same on the 29th and remembering how sad that day was and how great to see people buzzing around and shops and pubs open again. Its only 3/4 months but feels like an eternity. If thats not worth celebrating i dont know what is.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 29,964 ✭✭✭✭_Kaiser_


    Guess not indeed, and there’s not a thing wrong with it. Doubt anyone is going to be dragging you to them anyway so don’t worry.

    Oh noo.. I won't be paying a fortune for overpriced drink in overcrowded noisy pubs. How WILL I survive? :rolleyes:


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