Recommended construction companies for progression?

For what it’s worth 95% of them are all c*nts. If you ever have some issues in your life or have a bout of depression or mental health issues then forget about them trying to understand the situation. I know a few friends with the bigger firms in Dublin that were basically told - either turn up or be sacked. Which I get - it’s a business. But it is a rotten ruthless industry and it’s very old fashioned because of the dinosaurs who run it and politics behind it. One of the most corrupt industries in the world and when you pair that with Ireland it’s like a breeding ground for brown envelope culture.

I think the best chance of getting treated any way well is with a small enough company with 1-2 directors max and a flat management structure. They all boast open door policy but that’s Bullsh*t.
You c an get lucky and come across the odd genuine commercial manager who values his team but it’s very rare. The blame is passed down the line always in construction and scapegoats are the norm.

For all the slagging us Irish do about english - they know how to run construction well. They pay on time and fairly (majority) and they don’t work for nothing. Irish contractors are the worst of the worst and undercut each other like mad and always have done, when they should stand back and work together to exploit clients and main contractors alike. Too many “grunt” men. Who think shouting and flouting their testosterone fueled egos around a board room yields results.

Have you ever walked into a construction head office where the project managers and QS’s all sit? As dead as a door nail. Yet the marketing/accountancy/HR departments are a barrel of laughs.

The industry needs to take a long look at itself , and it wonders why young people never want to go into construction, any wonder. Why would any woman join it when they’re going to be targeted and dismissed from day one?
I for one would love to see english / further abroad contractors winning more work over here on big projects above the Sisks, BAMs, JohnPauls, Rhatigans of the world

Yeah I’ve seen and heard of it as soon as today.
My old firm got rid of 10 people in the last 2 weeks - as you say, people who were only hired last year, or deadwood that I would have classified as “a waste of the skin surrounding them” for construction.

Also one of the big contractors I mentioned above have enforced 30% pay cuts for May and June, talking to lads working there they don’t think it’ll change after June and it’ll stay permanent. Fairly grim!

We could all be on the plane to London, or further afield such as Oz again,

I'd be tore to shreds unfortunately future wise it wouldn't be a smart thing to do... plus unfortunately I suffer from caring what other people think occasionally. I did put up an "article" on LinkedIn before about it that received a lot of positive feedback although a few bosses and recruiters in jobs I went for after that told me to remove it, needless to say I haven't.

Medium sized subbie? If you's have any groundworks/civils packages at present in Leinster send me me a private message!!

I wrecked my head this time last year looking up every postgrad course you could think of in the irish universities to start in september. It's a minefield trying to commit to one. Being a QS I don't think I'd ever want to go back to sitting at a desk all day churning numbers.

Someone mentioned before that a lot of ex construction go into software engineering?

I even stupidly spent money on a career coach in Dublin, what a load of bollocks that was at €500 for a few sessions. Told me to go into HR/People roles, I wrote her a lovely review on google

I've been trying to do a lot of inner searching and would love to start something this September to get me out of this sh*thole of an industry. The only way is down from here lads - as I've mentioned on another thread - a few of the top 4-5 contractors issued 30% pay cuts last week for MAY & June - a lot of lads I was speaking to are confident this will stay permanent after June.
Two of the big house building developers told all their subbies their rates were being slashed 10% last week. Some kick in the stones if you're in the middle of a job for them.

Theyre scumbags the lot of them and I'll never work for them again, a consultancy, developer or main contractor. You can guaran-f*ckin-tee that the same boys won't be going in at 10% less rates to the moneybags clients. Make the staff take the hit first.

Revit Man wrote: »

Work for a consultancy, 150 employees approx. As username suggests, I draft in Revit for a living.

20% pay cuts across the board the second the words Covid-19 hit Ireland. There was no attempting to weather any storm, before any impact was felt, all salaries were slashed. I'm on a permanent contract, not a contractor.

I'd like out of the industry, but I'm mid 30s with a young family. I can't afford the luxury of stopping an income and re-training.

Do you enjoy the whole Revit/BIM side of things? Was looking at doing a coursse in it now in september but not sure.. would probably just get sick of it as it's dealing with the same assh*les.

A few BIM guys I've saw in main contractors get absolutely tortured by all the dinosaurs in the company and directors. Because they're essentially the only person who knows how to do these things, everyone chips in looking their little bit done. Must be incredibly infuriating.

addaword wrote: »

A QS I know well got s job in a third level institute working and he never looked back. He had a bit more experience than you have now, but he is on huge money and have plenty of time off during the week, and great holidays. And a great pension. He said it was like winning the lotto compared to the private sector job he had in rural Ireland.

Really? I look out for the odd lecturing job in Dublin here but they’re few and far between! I thought you’d have to take a massive drop in wages?