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Dr Hulsey WTC7 findings for people who not aware of this new study.

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  • #1292
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    I just find it funny you think Ib is not the symbol for the pound.
    It's not.
    It's lb.

    The link you quoted does not agree with you.
    I ask again:
    Are these Is or are they Ls?
    The international standard symbol for the avoirdupois pound is lb;[2] an alternative symbol is lbm[3] (for most pound definitions), # (chiefly in the U.S.),[4] and ℔[5] or ″̶[6] (specifically for the apothecaries' pound).

    The unit is descended from the Roman libra (hence the abbreviation "lb").

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(mass)


  • #1293
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    It's not.
    It's lb.

    The link you quoted does not agree with you.
    I ask again:
    Are these Is or are they Ls?


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(mass)

    I think Kingmob account, is multiple bot account, because you have all day to post crap. How many of you use the computer each day? There no way one person can post all day and not be getting a headache? I have only have time to reply with two sentences. Have you a life outside this forum?

    Is and Ls mean?


  • #1294
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Is and Ls mean?
    They are letters of the alphabet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(mass)
    The international standard symbol for the avoirdupois pound is lb;[2]

    Please tell me what letter is the red letter here.
    Is it the letter I or the letter L?


  • #1295
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    They are letters of the alphabet.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(mass)



    Please tell me what letter is the red letter here.
    Is it the letter I or the letter L?

    Is this a trick question? Based on Libra it is a L why?


  • #1296
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Is this a trick question?
    No, it's not. It's a simple and direct question.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Based on Libra it is a L why?

    Ok.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    I just find it funny you think Ib is not the symbol for the pound.
    What letter is the red letter here?
    Is it an I or an L?


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  • #1297
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    No, it's not. It's a simple and direct question.



    Ok.

    What letter is the red letter here?
    Is it an I or an L?

    Why did you change the letter. Please stop its weird.


  • #1298
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Why did you change the letter, this just weird now?
    I didn't change any letter cheerful. I copied it directly from your post.
    This is only one example of dozens of where you used I rather than L.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    I just find it funny you think Ib is not the symbol for the pound.
    Is the red letter an I or is it an L?


  • #1299
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    I didn't change any letter cheerful. I copied it directly from your post.
    This is only one example of dozens of where you used I rather than L.


    Is the red letter an I or is it an L?

    What post provide evidence?


  • #1300
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    What post provide evidence?
    This is getting rather pathetic now.
    I quoted your post directly:
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    I just find it funny you think Ib is not the symbol for the pound.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=112957741#post112957741

    Is the red letter an I or an L?

    How about all of these?:
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Read your posts sometime.

    I was not showing you an actual equation Ibm is mass and Ibf is force. Hulsey was looking for the impact force which was 61,950 pounds. Ib and Ibs are the same
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    The only person who doesn't know ib and ibs is the symbol for the pound is you.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    552ib is not the new  force. 
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(mass) ib is pounds.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    You believe ib not the same as Ibs? Trying to understand what you getting at here?
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    lol
    61,950 pounds is the weight. The impact that force would have.
    552ibs/inch calculation Mick showed is a stiffiness calculation of the girders.
    When they're looking for the mass you use ib or ibs (newton)
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Nordenson determined in their report that would take 632,000 ib of load to shear the welds of the support plates under the bearing seat (girder A2001) column 79 ( floor 13)

    ... 

    Hulsey carried out a finite element anaysis to see if 632,00ib pounds of force can be applied.

    ...

    Draft it only amounted to 32 per cent of the required  force: 215, 211ib
    Final report its now down to 10 per cent at  61, 950ib. 

    ...

    In both reports 632,000 ib of force was not met. .
    Are the red letters the letter I or the letter L?


  • #1301
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Kingmob you dissect every post someone makes to find something. So what i put i instead of l

    l is not a word letter

    lb is an abbreviation of the latin word for Libra.

    Get back to you not knowing lb and lbs was the symbol for the pound.


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  • #1302
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    So what i put i instead of l
    Cheerful, one is correct and one is not. You constantly used the incorrect one. This is because your reading skill is not very good and because you don't understand physics terms.


    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Get back to you not knowing lb and lbs was the symbol for the pound.
    Again now you are trying to deflect and turn things around because you've been caught out.
    I've never said that lb and lbs weren't the symbol for pounds.
    I was consistently telling you that they were the symbol for pounds while you were telling me that I was wrong.

    And this is the problem.
    Rather than just cop to a mistake, you try to dig in, deny everything and reinvent reality around you to pretend that you are right.
    If you will do this for something small like mistaking i and l, then you will also do it for other things.


  • #1303
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    I'm convinced you are a bot, you even have time to multi-quote.


  • #1304
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    I've never said that lb and lbs weren't the symbol for pounds.
    I was consistently telling you that they were the symbol for pounds while you were telling me that I was wrong.

    I'm officially in the twilight zone.


  • #1305
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    I'm convinced you are a bot, you even have time to multi-quote.
    And this is simple deflection.

    Rather than just admit you made a mistake, you are now claiming that I am a robot with good enough AI to respond to you quickly and dynamically.

    That's very very silly cheerful.


  • #1306
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    Lb is an abbreviation of the Latin word libra! The primary meaning of libra was balance or scales


  • #1307
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    I'm officially in the twilight zone.
    But cheerful, I've quoted exactly where you do this:
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112958088&postcount=1300
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    I just find it funny you think Ib is not the symbol for the pound.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Read your posts sometime.

    I was not showing you an actual equation Ibm is mass and Ibf is force. Hulsey was looking for the impact force which was 61,950 pounds. Ib and Ibs are the same
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    The only person who doesn't know ib and ibs is the symbol for the pound is you.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    552ib is not the new  force. 
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pound_(mass) ib is pounds.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    You believe ib not the same as Ibs? Trying to understand what you getting at here?
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    lol
    61,950 pounds is the weight. The impact that force would have.
    552ibs/inch calculation Mick showed is a stiffiness calculation of the girders.
    When they're looking for the mass you use ib or ibs (newton)
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Nordenson determined in their report that would take 632,000 ib of load to shear the welds of the support plates under the bearing seat (girder A2001) column 79 ( floor 13)

    ... 

    Hulsey carried out a finite element anaysis to see if 632,00ib pounds of force can be applied.

    ...

    Draft it only amounted to 32 per cent of the required  force: 215, 211ib
    Final report its now down to 10 per cent at  61, 950ib. 

    ...

    In both reports 632,000 ib of force was not met. .

    Are you saying that these aren't your posts? Or what you didn't type the letter I all those times?:confused:


  • #1308
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    And this is simple deflection.

    Rather than just admit you made a mistake, you are now claiming that I am a robot with good enough AI to respond to you quickly and dynamically.

    That's very very silly cheerful.

    You online 24 hours a day. I come online some rare mornings at 5am and you online still, no other way to explain it. When do you sleep?


  • #1309
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Lb is an abbreviation of the Latin word libra! The primary meaning of libra was balance or scales

    Yes, I know. I told you that many pages ago. You then told me that I was wrong and that the symbol was Ib or ib.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112957635&postcount=1285
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112957669&postcount=1287
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    King Mob wrote: »
    Cheerful, I quoted this to you already. It does not agree with how you are using the term.

    The word Libra.

    This is just getting more and more embarrassing

    The only person who doesn't know ib and ibs is the symbol for the pound is you.


  • #1310
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes, I know. I told you that many pages ago. You then told me that I was wrong and that the symbol was Ib or ib.

    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112957635&postcount=1285
    https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=112957669&postcount=1287

    Fair enough you have an actual decent argument this time. I was using i instead of l.

    That still doesn't change anything. You still claimed the lb was not a force.


  • #1311
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Fair enough you have an actual decent argument this time. I was using i instead of l.
    And it only took 4 pages of pointing that out to you before you'd admit to blindingly obvious reality.

    Why did you keep insisting you where right when you knew you were wrong?


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  • #1312
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    And it only took 4 pages of pointing that out to you before you'd admit to blindingly obvious reality.

    Why did you keep insisting you where right when you knew you were wrong?

    First of all, me putting an i there instead of l was an honest mistake. 
    You had much earlier denied lb (POUND) was a unit of force in post 1264 and then attacked me for saying it was. I likely just tuned out then;)

    Your post (denying it)
    507120.png

    Later, you switched your opinion and partly agreed. It hard to keep up with your constant changing of views based on what i say.

    507121.png


    Definition of pound force. lb is an abbreviation
    507125.png


  • #1313
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    u are now claiming that I am a robot with good enough AI to respond to you quickly and dynamically.

    That's very very silly cheerful.

    Maybe;) I don't doubt their government agencies online debunking 9/11 stuff, where they can find it I never seen you post elsewhere on this forum? Why not? Nal and Dohnjoe and others i have seen them post about other topics.

    507126.png


  • #1314
    Cheerful Spring2
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    You have been debunking for 12 years. Are you a professional Skeptic? what your day job?

    12 years ago when you started posting.
    https://www.boards.ie/search/submit/?user=68949&sort=newest&date_to=&date_from=&query=%2A%3A%2A&page=958


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  • #1316
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  • #1317
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    First of all, me putting an i there instead of l was an honest mistake. 
    You had much earlier denied lb (POUND) was a unit of force in post 1264 and then attacked me for saying it was. I likely just tuned out then;)

    Your post (denying it)
    507120.png

    Later, you switched your opinion and partly agreed. It hard to keep up with your constant changing of views based on what i say.

    507121.png


    Definition of pound force. lb is an abbreviation
    507125.png
    Cheerful, you are misrepresenting my posts dishonestly.
    You are now trying to flip things because you have utterly embarrassed yourself.
    You are making personal comments because you are angry that I highlighted your inability to understand physics.
    It's only serving to make you look petty.


  • #1318
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    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Cheerful, you are misrepresenting my posts dishonestly.
    You are now trying to flip things because you have utterly embarrassed yourself.
    You are making personal comments because you are angry that I highlighted your inability to understand physics.
    It's only serving to make you look petty.

    Your debunking friends will believe that. I screenshot your posts and you denied pound as a unit of force.
    Flip things?. Read the thread and look why you got annoyed? You clearly said it was wrong for me to say pound force.
    Of course you're wrong. Look at definition I provided.
    I just trying to understand why you spend so much time debunking conspiracy theories. 12 year at it.
    I would not spend 12 years trying to convince a skeptic to change his mind on Metabunk.


  • #1319
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    I screenshot your posts and you denied pound as a unit of force.
    Yes you screen shot a part of my post.
    You cut out another part of it because I clarify myself later in that post.
    Please quote my post in full. Do not edit out parts because they contradict what you want to believe.
    You can just copy and paste. You don't need to screenshot things.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Flip things?. Read the thread and look why you got annoyed? You clearly said it was wrong for me to say pound force.
    But that's not what I said or any of the points I made.
    I outlined many instances of you misusing terms, the most hilarious of which was you using the wrong letter.
    And this is only the latest instance of you utterly embarrassing yourself by attempting to sound like you understand physics.
    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Of course you're wrong. Look at definition I provided.
    .
    Again you spent many pages of this thread declaring that definition was wrong and that pounds were "ib".


  • #1320
    Cheerful Spring2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,705 ✭✭✭Cheerful Spring2


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes you screen shot a part of my post.
    You cut out another part of it because I clarify myself later in that post.
    Please quote my post in full. Do not edit out parts because they contradict what you want to believe.
    You can just copy and paste. You don't need to screenshot things.


    But that's not what I said or any of the points I made.
    I outlined many instances of you misusing terms, the most hilarious of which was you using the wrong letter.
    And this is only the latest instance of you utterly embarrassing yourself by attempting to sound like you understand physics.


    Again you spent many pages of this thread declaring that definition was wrong and that pounds were "ib".

    Kingmob this the equation for force that Hulsey used. Read the bottom.
    507148.png

    You changed the equation, why?


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  • #1321
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    Cheerful Spring2 wrote: »
    Kingmob this the equation for force that Hulsey used. Read the bottom.
    507148.png

    You changed the equation, why?
    How could I change the equation in a report I did not write?


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