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First Dates Ireland *read first post*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,578 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    I don't think I have seen a camper pairing

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    pgj2015 wrote: »
    it was a bit out of order the fat one telling him last year to get his teeth sorted out on national tv, she just met him in fairness. none of her business, imagine going out with her.

    I actually thought it was the best thing to happen to him. She was a bit brusque, but firm. She was also dead right and he is a lot happier in life now. Needs to do some of those confidence and self worth classes and he'll be good to go.
    OkeyDoke12 wrote: »
    Dont think Paul is brushing his new teeth either..

    And he needs to work on this too.
    pgj2015 wrote: »
    no wonder she fled back to Russia to get away from him.

    Probably in self-isolation after volunteering for a 5 year stretch in a gulag after meeting him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,260 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    I think this sums up the failure of Irish language education in this country, I hadnt a clue what it said either, it may as well have been Chinese.

    I’m fairly fluent in Irish. My Dad is Donegal and it pains him that I can’t understand most of what he says. Honestly, I sometimes think that they accentuate it. It’s strange that Donegal Gaelgoirs can understand us Munster peasants but not vice versa. And I would have spent extensive periods in Falcarragh, Fannad and Anagaire Gaeltacht areas.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 91,753 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    I'd say alot go on the show just for Mateo

    No matter what people tell you, words and ideas can change this World



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    I would hate to be on the dating scene now.
    Even if you’re a bit good looking but possible coke fan like the P.E. teacher, anyone over 35 seems to have kids or ex wives or general baggage. The ex will of course use the kids as a power play too.

    Worth keeping in mind that you’re only going to get a certain cross-section of singledom on this show, i.e. single people likely to apply to go on First Dates and pour their heart out for the nation about their exes etc. That’s gonna trend towards people who say stuff like ‘my journey’ a lot, people who accumulate baggage because they see drama as making for a better story down the pub or to get them on TV for a few minutes.

    That’s not to say that that sums up every single person on the show, it doesn’t, I’m sure many contestants are lovely, genuine people. But every person on the show did consciously make a decision to apply to a show where they’ll have to recount their dating history and baggage for the nation, so it figures that a significant portion of that will be happy to do so, and then it figures that you’ll get people who’ll happily collect said baggage as they go along. But then there’s also the vast majority of the country who didn’t, and wouldn’t, apply to be on First Dates so aren’t represented by this crowd.


  • Posts: 7,714 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    leggo wrote: »
    That’s gonna trend towards people who say stuff like ‘my journey’ a lot,.

    I laughed at this..


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,260 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    What I find quite strange on here is the amount of posts labelling people coke heads if they are in any way animated.

    While still a great show and very entertaining, for me it is starting to go a bit like Come Dine with me did on Channel 4, looking for ‘characters’ rather than normal dates.

    If the show is about ‘a first date’ rather than therapy, people would not get into some of that they do. I am a firm believer that a persons past and battles definitely makes them who they are but they are not first date material. I think the show will lose its charm if it continues to encourage participants to discuss deep personal things. It is also clear that the lack of dates that lead to many couples even though they are matched well is because of this.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,082 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    joeguevara wrote: »
    I’m fairly fluent in Irish. My Dad is Donegal and it pains him that I can’t understand most of what he says. Honestly, I sometimes think that they accentuate it. It’s strange that Donegal Gaelgoirs can understand us Munster peasants but not vice versa. And I would have spent extensive periods in Falcarragh, Fannad and Anagaire Gaeltacht areas.




    I just meant the written words that came up,about how they got on after the date. I didnt have a clue what that meant. donegal irish in written the same as irish in say kerry?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,082 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    KevRossi wrote: »
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    I actually thought it was the best thing to happen to him. She was a bit brusque, but firm. She was also dead right and he is a lot happier in life now. Needs to do some of those confidence and self worth classes and he'll be good to go.








    what would the reaction have been if he had told that woman that she was morbidly obese and should lose a lot of weight or she would likely be dead in 5 years? then if she agreed, "ah yeah Ann you really should now"
    she would probably start crying, storm out and he would be crucified on social media for it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,260 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    I just meant the written words that came up,about how they got on after the date. I didnt have a clue what that meant. donegal irish in written the same as irish in say kerry?

    Usually but sometimes different words,.

    Like Munster to ask how are you is conas ata tu but Donegal is Go dté mar atá tú?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,082 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    joeguevara wrote: »
    Usually but sometimes different words,.

    Like Munster to ask how are you is conas ata tu but Donegal is Go dté mar atá tú?



    oh right, didnt know that, i knew the pronunciation was different.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,260 ✭✭✭joeguevara


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    oh right, didnt know that, i knew the pronunciation was different.

    It’s mainly about pronunciation though. Sometimes I think they do it on purpose to annoy Munster Irish speakers. It is much more pleasing on the ear.


  • Hosted Moderators Posts: 17,426 ✭✭✭✭Conor Bourke


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    I just meant the written words that came up,about how they got on after the date. I didnt have a clue what that meant. donegal irish in written the same as irish in say kerry?

    The sentence on screen translated to “there were no reports of dirty dancing”


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 730 ✭✭✭Achasanai


    For a guy who isn't 'looking' for a date, the guy with the Russian woman sure does try a lot of different dating services (Tinder, First Dates, Clothes Smelling).


    I'm not sure where they get some of these guys from, but there's been a couple now with more than a bang of serial killer of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Achasanai wrote: »
    For a guy who isn't 'looking' for a date, the guy with the Russian woman sure does try a lot of different dating services (Tinder, First Dates, Clothes Smelling).


    I'm not sure where they get some of these guys from, but there's been a couple now with more than a bang of serial killer of them.

    Yeah, I've no idea what kinda girl would be impressed by all his ****e talk. He'll probably look back at the show and cringe in the future


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 34,803 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    God love the Russian girl with this bore.
    He comes across like he has read a pamphlet on mindfulness or something, totally painful.
    The two gay guys were actually nice enough and cool they could be mates sure what odds about what they want to wear.
    Your man with the teeth needs to keep those new gnashers clean...or they won't last. His date seemed like a decent sort and had a hard hard life by sounds of it.
    This Irish speaking woman is a total dose, seriously imagine the outrage if a man said he wanted a woman with money and ordered her main?


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,878 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    I think this thread has been exceptionally hard on the fella who dated the Russian girl? He came across fine to me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,626 ✭✭✭Still Ill


    Still Ill wrote: »
    Yeah, I've no idea what kinda girl would be impressed by all his ****e talk. He'll probably look back at the show and cringe in the future
    I think this thread has been exceptionally hard on the fella who dated the Russian girl? He came across fine to me.

    Found one!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,603 ✭✭✭dobman88


    gmisk wrote: »
    This Irish speaking woman is a total dose, seriously imagine the outrage if a man said he wanted a woman with money and ordered her main?

    Deal breaker for me. I'd have just got up and left if she did that to me.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,878 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    Still Ill wrote: »
    Found one!

    I'm not a girl :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,044 ✭✭✭Username here


    I'm not a girl :pac:

    "Not yet a woman" :pac: :pac: :pac:


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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,878 Mod ✭✭✭✭yerwanthere123


    "Not yet a woman" :pac: :pac: :pac:


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    it was a bit out of order the fat one telling him last year to get his teeth sorted out on national tv, she just met him in fairness. none of her business, imagine going out with her.

    Yeah I said the same the other night, scolding him like a child. She wasn't exactly princess charming herself, either in looks or on the weighing scales. She was in no position to abuse him like that.

    I felt sorry for him, he was obviously very nervous. I can honestly say, I reckon I could freeze totally on that show too with the nerves.

    He seems like a quiet man if a bit simple, all yer wan had to do was say "We'll meet again as friends". Just because you have had a tough life, doesn't mean you should just trample all over him and humiliate him in the process.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    I find this thread fascinating yet mental at times. I’ve met some lads who are just allergic to the concept of rejection, like even just hearing of someone they don’t know getting rejected sends them off on a deeply personal rant about someone else they don’t know regardless of merit because they’ve obviously got their own issues with that, and it’s the only thing I can think of as any kind of explanation for some of the comments I see here.

    Do people know how TV is made like? You don’t have to have years of experience in the industry like, you can watch this show and see it for yourself. They ask them questions that force them to give reactions. If they know there’s more to it, they’ll ask a deeper question so everyone can’t get away with saying “no spark” as a cop out because that’s bad TV and everyone here would moan if they did. They can manipulate and even edit a scenario to make it look as they need, so one party looks sympathetic and the other looks like a villain because you need that to get the most emotive response from the viewer, even if that’s not how the actual interaction played out in real time.

    I felt bad for the nervous lad too. But also it’s easy for me to do so because he was only in my life for a few minutes. In the real world, it’s painful to be on a date with someone falling over themselves. You feel bad and try help them for an hour, maybe two, and then you’re eventually like “ah here, this is my life too, you’re a grown adult and it’s not my job to babysit you.” Then you just lose all hope of anything productive coming of the night and have to let go of any hopes you had. His date probably spent months looking forward to First Dates, had all of her mates on standby for updates, spent a couple hundred quid on outfits, make-up etc, and genuinely wanted to meet someone. What she got was a lad who could barely get a sentence out. She tried to be nice and help him along but he didn’t help himself either. And, even in the comments, she was likely told to be honest, and she probably thought she was helping him with feedback he NEEDS to hear if he wants to meet someone. This is the second time now a First Dates date has gone tits up for him with stuff he could’ve worked on beforehand and nobody has pulled him aside beforehand either time, so it’s possible he just doesn’t have good advice coming in or isn’t listening. I had zero issues with how she handled it because I could see myself, and a lot of others, doing the exact same thing in her shoes.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,111 ✭✭✭PhilOssophy


    That's all true leggo but I think if she is peed off with him because it didn't work out, she needs to understand the whole concept of going on a blind date on a TV show. There is always a chance that it'll be a waste of time and she could have just said "maybe as friends" instead of trampling all over the poor man's feelings
    . He looked like he was a nervous wreck on the show so who knows what his general mental health situation is


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,061 ✭✭✭leggo


    Disagree. Last time he was on the show, his date agreed that he needed to get his teeth fixed. He did and was much happier then came back. It feels ‘mean’ to give people real feedback, and I think Irish people in particular are mortified by the idea of direct communication, but you’re actually helping them more by giving them something they can work with. That flowery “you’re a lovely lad and you’ll make someone happy but not for me” language makes this chap feel better for a second but doesn’t help him when there’s something very clear we can all see he needs to work on. All it does is protect the person giving the feedback from an awkward conversation.

    If she was malicious with it I’d agree, but she wasn’t. He wants to find love, he needs to hear this stuff and deal with it. It’s uncomfortable that it happened on TV but if he didn’t apply and go through all the steps to get there it wouldn’t have.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,578 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    Yeah, I think the woman he had on the last date did the best thing for him; told him straight out what he knew. She's probably well aware that she's no picture herself, but I think she meant it well and sometimes good hard advice is better than beating around the bush and being nice.

    His date this year was disappointed with him the moment she walked in the door, you can see it in her face the moment she sees him on the stool. He was difficult, she made an effort and was given a guy who had difficulty holding a conversation, so she probably felt the evening was a waste of time as was getting ready for it. She could have dropped him with a bit more subtlety though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,082 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    The woman from last year told him on TV for the whole country to see. she just met him as well, she had no right to do what she did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 40,977 ✭✭✭✭ohnonotgmail


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    The woman from last year told him on TV for the whole country to see. she just met him as well, she had no right to do what she did.

    she didn't tell him anything he didnt know.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,082 ✭✭✭✭pgj2015


    she didn't tell him anything he didnt know.




    TV


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,578 ✭✭✭KevRossi


    pgj2015 wrote: »
    The woman from last year told him on TV for the whole country to see. she just met him as well, she had no right to do what she did.

    Up to the editor to leave it in or out. She was fine in telling him IMO. It also worked and he's a lot better for it. He said so himself.


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