Businesspeople are vulgar chancers

tdf7187 · 04-03-2020 01:35AM #1

Says 'our' president.

How did this absurd dwarf manage to become elected president of my country? He's an embarassment. He also manages to insult 48% of the population of our main ally. What a fecking eejit.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/universities-do-not-exist-to-produce-students-who-are-useful-president-says-1.4190859

bilbot79 · 04-03-2020 01:38AM

tdf7187 wrote: »

Says 'our' president.

How did this absurd dwarf manage to become elected presdident of my country? He's an embarassment.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/universities-do-not-exist-to-produce-students-who-are-useful-president-says-1.4190859

100% with Miggledy on this one sorry.

Do you not watch Tommy Tiernan? Dwarf isn't an acceptable term. It's little person.

Ipso · 04-03-2020 01:39AM

Coming from the man who brown nosed Castro.

Better Than Christ · 04-03-2020 01:41AM

He's an embarrassment to idiots who think it's acceptable to use the term 'dwarf' to describe someone who, through no fault of their own, is below average height. Fair enough. Most people think he's great.

anewme · 04-03-2020 01:41AM

Gotta love Miggeldy.

Very learned man.

04-03-2020 01:42AM

He's a great president
Well able to deal with foreign visitors
Knows all about politics
A great scholar
Can debate with everyone
Is brilliant at talking with everyone from every type of background

Never would have voted for him first time round but he's the best we have had for many years

tdf7187 · 04-03-2020 01:43AM

Ipso wrote: »

Coming from the man who brown nosed Castro.

Indeed, he's the type of SJW that makes a joke of the left.

Arghus · 04-03-2020 01:58AM

That's not what he said. But why bother being accurate when you can be outraged.

President Michael D. Higgins has warned that the capacity of universities to provide a “moral space” for discussion is being eroded at a time of growing political populism.

Mr Higgins, who was opening a celebration of Trinity College Dublin’s College Historical Debating Society, said “universities are not there merely to produce students who are useful”.

“They are there to produce citizens who are respectful of the rights of others to participate and also to be able to participate fully, drawing on a wide range of scholarship,” he said on Monday night.

The President said there is a growing cohort of people who are alienated and “who feel they have lost their attachment to society and decision making”.

He explicitly targeted US president Donald Trump’s political sloganeering, saying these alienated voters “can become available for others who come and say to them ‘I want to be your voice’.”

“This is the background to ‘Make America Great Again’, that nonsense - that’s all it is. [It is] just a wild shout. But it is exploitative of an alienated group.”

Mr Higgins said universities are relied upon “to create that moral space where people will be able to evaluate different suggestions”.

Asked by his interviewer, the broadcaster and historian John Bowman, if he feared that capacity was being eroded, the President said “I do, straight up”.

“We have a fractured society and the university is the place to where you would go for putting things back together in relation to discursive options,” he told a crowd assembled in Trinity’s Examinations Hall.

He said universities and academics had become overly focused on the market, because of a sense that there was “magic happening in the marketplace… when in fact actually what you had was a whole series of vulgar chancers”.

The College Historical Society, or “the Hist”, claims to be the world’s oldest undergraduate society and is running a week-long series of events to mark its 250th anniversary.

Esel · 04-03-2020 03:41AM

Better to be an absurd person of small stature than a mental midget...

PinkSunset · 04-03-2020 04:38AM

Arghus wrote: »

That's not what he said. But why bother being accurate when you can be outraged.

I was posting an angry comment when saw yours.
"Universities do not exist ‘to produce students who are useful"
Did he say that for real? I remember my grandmother saying "books will not bring food to your table". Now I'm an adult and that seems to be so stupid

johnmcdnl · 04-03-2020 04:46AM

PinkSunset wrote: »

I was posting an angry comment when saw yours.
"Universities do not exist ‘to produce students who are useful"
Did he say that for real? I remember my grandmother saying "books will not bring food to your table". Now I'm an adult and that seems to be so stupid

Universities do not exist "merely" to produce students who are useful.
He then elaborates by saying it's also important to learn moral values etc etc.

It's all in the first paragraph if you open the link the OP provided.

Arghus · 04-03-2020 05:58AM

PinkSunset wrote: »

I was posting an angry comment when saw yours.
"Universities do not exist ‘to produce students who are useful"
Did he say that for real? I remember my grandmother saying "books will not bring food to your table". Now I'm an adult and that seems to be so stupid

It would be stupid to say that, but that is not what he said.

It's all there in the article.

Edit: To be fair the headline of the article is misleading. It does quote him as saying: "Universities do not exist ‘to produce students who are useful". It's pretty amazing that they have done that, because the omission of the key word of "merely" from the selected headline quote changes the entire meaning of the point he was making. It's clickbaity and dishonest, to be frank.

He said universities are not there to produce students who are merely useful. As in universities should aim to foster student's abilities to think critically, debate and discuss: to be fully rounded individuals, with the capacity to think for themselves, as well as being "merely" useful for the workplace.

Deja Boo · 04-03-2020 07:04AM

tdf7187 wrote: »

Says 'our' president.

How did this absurd dwarf manage to become elected president of my country? He's an embarassment. He also manages to insult 48% of the population of our main ally. What a fecking eejit.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/universities-do-not-exist-to-produce-students-who-are-useful-president-says-1.4190859

Read your first few sentences and assumed you were [perfectly] describing the Dumpster Trumpster.

Read your article, and....

kowloon · 04-03-2020 07:18AM

Deja Boo wrote: »

Read your first few sentences and assumed you were [perfectly] describing the Dumpster Trumpster.

Read your article, and....

But I'm angry with the left! They want to force us all into gay marriages with immigrants! :eek:

Deja Boo · 04-03-2020 07:36AM

kowloon wrote: »

But I'm angry with the left! They want to force us all into gay marriages with immigrants! :eek:

And that's why one must always read the fine print before voting

kowloon · 04-03-2020 07:42AM

Deja Boo wrote: »

And that's why one must always read the fine print before voting

It's not all bad, I suppose. Dick is a bit of an acquired taste, but the house is spotless.

skooterblue2 · 04-03-2020 07:54AM

Great thoughts, Who does he think pays for his campaigns and his lavish life style away from the great unwashed masses. I doubt he has ever done a days work in his life.

Raconteuse · 04-03-2020 09:54AM

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Who does he think pays for his campaigns and his lavish life style away from the great unwashed masses.

Indeed, but...

I doubt he has ever done a days work in his life.

We know that's not true.

Greyfox · 04-03-2020 10:04AM

tdf7187 wrote: »

How did this absurd dwarf manage to become elected president of my country? He's an embarassment. He also manages to insult 48% of the population of our main ally. What a fecking eejit.

Well 100% of the Irish population would prefer he was president instead of you

JohnnyFlash · 04-03-2020 10:06AM

Raconteuse wrote: »

Indeed, but...

We know that's not true.

When Michael D was Minister his civil servants noted how relaxed he was to work. I think he’s a man who works hard on cultivating an image and bolstering his already extremely impressive ego. His increasingly bizarre use of the rolling R when speaking is one noticeable example of this.

El Weirdo · 04-03-2020 10:28AM

bubblypop wrote: »

He's a great president
Well able to deal with foreign visitors
Knows all about politics
A great scholar
Can debate with everyone
Is brilliant at talking with everyone from every type of background

Never would have voted for him first time round but he's the best we have had for many years

And he called Michael Graham a wanker on live radio. Which is always nice to be reminded of.

ohnonotgmail · 04-03-2020 10:42AM

One of these days we will have an OP that demonstrates they have read past the headline. Today is not that day.

_Brian · 04-03-2020 11:23AM

Overall a great President whim I feel is well in touch with society and the problems it faces.

For me, if this man calls someone out in their behaviour, I’d be fairly certain he’s right.

Hoop66 · 04-03-2020 11:47AM

All this "read the actual article" nonsense is playing havoc with my pitchfork supply business.

Deja Boo · 04-03-2020 11:51AM

tdf7187 wrote: »

Says 'our' president.

How did this absurd dwarf manage to become elected president of my country? He's an embarassment. He also manages to insult 48% of the population of our main ally. What a fecking eejit.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/universities-do-not-exist-to-produce-students-who-are-useful-president-says-1.4190859

and what does misquoting and misjudging him say about you?

super_furry · 04-03-2020 11:59AM

Deja Boo wrote: »

and what does misquoting and misjudging him say about you?

It says that he's so desperate to be outraged and offended by something that he doesn't actually care about the truth.

Feisar · 04-03-2020 11:59AM

skooterblue2 wrote: »

Great thoughts, Who does he think pays for his campaigns and his lavish life style away from the great unwashed masses. I doubt he has ever done a days work in his life.

As my father would say, "that lad never felt the weight of a spade".

Ray Palmer · 04-03-2020 12:59PM

When I went to college my class time was 35 hours a week and about 20 hours additional work I was studying civil engineering in a technical college. There was no moral and philosophical discussion and no reason for it. Micky D here just showed how clueless he is about what college is like for other people in different colleges to him.
Yeah art students have time and it is part if their studies to debate principles. An engineering student doesn't debate the size of a brick or the tensile strength of concrete.

mikhail · 04-03-2020 01:24PM

Hoop66 wrote: »

All this "read the actual article" nonsense is playing havoc with my pitchfork supply business.

Yep, a real glut of supply here. You'd miss the days when we could just get everyone to burn the witch based on a wilfully ignorant opinion.

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mikhail · 04-03-2020 01:29PM

Ray Palmer wrote: »

When I went to college my class time was 35 hours a week and about 20 hours additional work I was studying civil engineering in a technical college. There was no moral and philosophical discussion and no reason for it. Micky D here just showed how clueless he is about what college is like for other people in different colleges to him.
Yeah art students have time and it is part if their studies to debate principles. An engineering student doesn't debate the size of a brick or the tensile strength of concrete.

Me too. There's a sprinkling of ethics dusted into most engineering courses these days. No harm really.

Engineers design a lot of things. I've never studied the ethics of electronics design, but folks with similar skills to me work for BAE designing **** that kills people. There is certainly a place for ethics in engineering.

I see sheep · 04-03-2020 01:30PM

A legend, man of the people. Should be president of the world.

Businesspeople are vulgar chancers

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