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Caroline Flack found dead

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  • #962
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    pjohnson wrote: »
    Theres a real irony in there being a social media campaign about the effect of social media.

    There is a large class of "celebrity" who if it wasnt for social media would be just unemployed.

    you could say the same thing about footballers and football, if football didn't exist footballers would be unemployed, thing is in does exist as does SM and love island


  • #963
    pjohnson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 27,805 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    you could say the same thing about footballers and football, if football didn't exist footballers would be unemployed, thing is in does exist as does SM and love island

    But I dont see footballers starting a campaign that football is bad and needs to be changed?


  • #964
    Signore Fancy Pants
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,703 ✭✭✭Signore Fancy Pants


    tillyfilly wrote: »
    you could say the same thing about footballers and football, if football didn't exist footballers would be unemployed, thing is in does exist as does SM and love island

    LOL

    Whoooooosh.


  • #965
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    pjohnson wrote: »
    But I dont see footballers starting a campaign that football is bad and needs to be changed?

    how about the 'kick it out' campaign that involves so many footballers


  • #966
    0127647
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭0127647


    Whitmore tweeting about tonight's episode after the emotive guff she spouted on bbc the other night.

    Shows how dehumanised the social media influencers, presenters, tabloids have become.

    It would have been appropriate to cancel the show


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  • #967
    dubstarr
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,762 ✭✭✭✭dubstarr


    jackboy wrote: »
    He called the police. When the police arrived the place was covered in blood and he had a cut to the head. Maybe she had slashed her wrists which could have accounted for some of the blood. However, there is clearly enough here for a trial. The both of them denying the event afterwards is not enough to cancel the trial.

    The bodycam footage from the police showed she had to be restrained.Also while he was on the phone to 999,she was roaring abuse at him.


  • #968
    tjdaly
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 85 ✭✭tjdaly


    0127647 wrote: »
    Whitmore tweeting about tonight's episode after the emotive guff she spouted on bbc the other night.

    Shows how dehumanised the social media influencers, presenters, tabloids have become.

    It would have been appropriate to cancel the show

    No doubt the whole crew will be doing massive lines of coke or popping benzos after the show shedding crocodile tears about poor Caroline before going out to some hot new club. Disgusting world. As you say, they should have cancelled the show.


  • #969
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    0127647 wrote: »
    Whitmore tweeting about tonight's episode after the emotive guff she spouted on bbc the other night.

    Shows how dehumanised the social media influencers, presenters, tabloids have become.

    It would have been appropriate to cancel the show

    Whitmore sounded very emotional on 5 live yesterday morning which is understandable. Her blaming social media and the media in general is however wide of the mark.


  • #970
    its_steve116
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,645 ✭✭✭its_steve116


    Regardless of my opinion on the show, which is that it's rubbish, I think it should be at least rested when the current series finishes up, just out of respect to her.


  • #971
    0127647
    Closed Accounts Posts: 226 ✭✭0127647


    holyhead wrote: »
    Whitmore sounded very emotional on 5 live yesterday morning which is understandable. Her blaming social media and the media in general is however wide of the mark.

    Whitmore had to be "emotional". No less would be acceptable from the social media set.


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  • #972
    holyhead
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,249 ✭✭✭holyhead


    0127647 wrote: »
    Whitmore had to be "emotional". No less would be acceptable from the social media set.

    I think she sounded genuine. Should have just paid tribute to Flack and left it at that though. As hard as it might be for Whitmore to accept Flack died by her own hand. She denied herself the chance to make a comeback. She clearly had something which got her on telly. If Ant McPartland can come back so she too could have resurrected her career. We will never know now.


  • #973
    Rubberchikken
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,303 ✭✭✭Rubberchikken


    It's only right for a prosecution to go ahead even when the victim takes back their story and especially in the case of domestic abuse.

    I'd imagine a lot of complainants retract their accusation after they've calmed down. Maybe out of fear, remorse, sympathy for accused etc.

    For someone who has possibly committed domestic abuse, they need to be punished.they need to face the fact that their actions are illegal and unacceptable and they need to be shamed.

    Maybe this seems harsh, but anyone who thinks this behavior is acceptable needs to have it pointed out to them that it's not.


  • #974
    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    0127647 wrote: »
    It would have been appropriate to cancel the show

    Absolutely NOT!!
    Its a golden goose, almost bigger than the X-factor.
    It is low grade entry entertainment, like Big Brother.
    Every brain dead 14-40 year old woman is watching the show.
    its got massive product placement.

    They might cancel it the end of the year and bring it back next year under a new guise with the same sponsors and same formula.


  • #975
    DavidLyons_
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,300 ✭✭✭DavidLyons_


    tjdaly wrote: »
    Is it wrong? I really don't care that this individual is dead.

    In fairness to you, no.

    This person was famous for making inane, shallow, braindead drivel for the drooling hunzos and vapid, vacuous gobsh1tes.

    Absolutely nothing wrong with her not being on your radar.


  • #976
    BattleCorp
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,867 ✭✭✭✭BattleCorp


    Boggles wrote: »

    She denied the claim, as did the the victim / witness.

    Hardly a slam dunk conviction now was it?

    There is certainly questions surrounding the motivations of the CPS.

    The victim / witness as you call him most certainly didn't deny the claim. He was quite happy for the police to rescue him on the night of the alleged assault.

    He only decided not to press charges the next day. Not pressing charges is not the same as denying the incident took place.

    I agree with you that it wasn't a slam dunk case without the victim's testimony but bodycam evidence, medical evidence and statements were available so this probably informed the CPS regarding the likelihood of a successful prosecution.

    I don't see how anybody can question the motivation of the CPS. An assault was reported, they responded and apprehended the suspect. Aren't they supposed to prosecute those who are alleged to have committed a violent crime?

    Are the CPS not supposed to prosecute celebrities?


  • #977
    Laura99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35 ✭Laura99


    They also recorded her on body cam saying she did it.


  • #978
    pinkyeye
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    One eyed Jack wrote: »
    Found by her father. She took her own life after a friend who was staying with her stepped out to the shops -

    Caroline Flack killed herself when worried friend who was staying with her 'popped to the shops': Father of ex-Love Island presenter, 40, found her body in London flat hours after she was told court case for 'assaulting boyfriend' would go ahead

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8007677/Caroline-Flack-dead.html

    Please please please people do not click on daily mail articles, it's only giving them what they want.

    They will NEVER STOP this hounding of people until people stop clicking these ****ty links.


  • #979
    tillyfilly
    Closed Accounts Posts: 567 ✭✭✭tillyfilly


    I've never seen so much Thought broadcasting...template is something like this "I always blah blah, I would never blah blah , don't see the point blah blah , its all so silly"


  • #980
    Hammer89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    DavidLyons_ wrote: »
    This person was famous for making inane, shallow, braindead drivel for the drooling hunzos and vapid, vacuous gobsh1tes.

    You're not better than Love Island fans just because you know a lot of synonyms and words beginning with V.


  • #981
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,974 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    RTE are showing 'This Time with Alan Partridge'...

    It's such terrible timing. I mean, great episode, but the whole episode is about how 'beloved presenter died over the weekend'...

    The timing is so hilariously Wrong, darkly humourous.


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  • #982
    SusieBlue
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,029 ✭✭✭SusieBlue


    its_steve116 wrote: »
    Regardless of my opinion on the show, which is that it's rubbish, I think it should be at least rested when the current series finishes up, just out of respect to her.

    Why? Her death and the incidents leading up to her suicide had absolutely nothing to do with the show?


  • #983
    RabbleRouser2k
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,974 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    SusieBlue wrote: »
    Why? Her death and the incidents leading up to her suicide had absolutely nothing to do with the show?

    Exactly. She had issues, she had problems.


  • #984
    Hammer89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    BattleCorp wrote: »
    Not pressing charges is not the same as denying the incident took place.

    He denied the lamp element, which is an important thing to deny. Did she admit to hitting him with a lamp or assaulting him in general? From what I've read it's unclear, but if millions of people think she hit him with a lamp while he slept, and she didn't, then the public have to know because that's by far the most dramatic element of the case, the lamp.


  • #985
    Millicently
    Closed Accounts Posts: 478 ✭✭Millicently


    Rubberchikken wrote: »
    It's only right for a prosecution to go ahead even when the victim takes back their story and especially in the case of domestic abuse.

    I'd imagine a lot of complainants retract their accusation after they've calmed down. Maybe out of fear, remorse, sympathy for accused etc.

    For someone who has possibly committed domestic abuse, they need to be punished.they need to face the fact that their actions are illegal and unacceptable and they need to be shamed.

    Maybe this seems harsh, but anyone who thinks this behavior is acceptable needs to have it pointed out to them that it's not.
    Usually after the violence the attacker will tell the victim that they are sorry and it'll never happen again and persuade them that somehow it's really the victims fault for somehow bringing it on themselves.


  • #986
    retro:electro
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,039 ✭✭✭✭retro:electro


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    He denied the lamp element, which is an important thing to deny. Did she admit to hitting him with a lamp or assaulting him in general? From what I've read it's unclear, but if millions of people think she hit him with a lamp while he slept, and she didn't, then the public have to know because that's by far the most dramatic element of the case, the lamp.

    These are the kind of details that a trial would have ironed out, and now that there’s not going to be one I suppose we’ll never really know will we? Apparently she admitted to “whacking him over the head”, this was told to the court in at the hearing in December. It was also said that Caroline flipped over a table while in police custody, threatened to kill herself and had to be restrained. After she was cautioned she called Lewis an asshole and vile. And Lewis rang 999 begging for assistance and in fear of his life and was left with significant injuries.
    A nasty situation all round.

    https://www.google.ie/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/12/23/caroline-flack-love-island-presenter-arrives-court-face-charge/amp/


  • #987
    buckwheat
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 348 ✭✭buckwheat


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    You're not better than Love Island fans just because you know a lot of synonyms and words beginning with V.

    He definitely is though


  • #988
    Hannibal_Smith
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 7,694 Mod ✭✭✭✭Hannibal_Smith


    Hammer89 wrote: »
    He denied the lamp element, which is an important thing to deny. Did she admit to hitting him with a lamp or assaulting him in general? From what I've read it's unclear, but if millions of people think she hit him with a lamp while he slept, and she didn't, then the public have to know because that's by far the most dramatic element of the case, the lamp.

    This is exactly what i was wondering. The reports differ slightly. Some report the prosecutor as saying he was hit in the head by a lamp. Other report her as saying he was hit in the head by Caroline with a lamp.

    I was full sure she hit him with a phone tbh. I thought thats how it was reported initially?


  • #989
    blade1
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    Hannibal_Smith wrote: »
    This is exactly what i was wondering. The reports differ slightly. Some report the prosecutor as saying he was hit in the head by a lamp. Other report her as saying he was hit in the head by Caroline with a lamp.

    I was full sure she hit him with a phone tbh. I thought thats how it was reported initially?

    Phones are Naomi Campbell's weapons of choice!


  • #990
    Tork
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 3,769 ✭✭✭Tork


    Prosecutor Katie Weiss then said of Mr Burton, who sat holding his head in his hands in the public gallery: "He is a victim - he sustained a significant injury to his head."

    So where did this "significant injury to his head" come from?


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  • #991
    Hammer89
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,004 ✭✭✭Hammer89


    Tork wrote: »
    So where did this "significant injury to his head" come from?

    If it was unequivocally a lamp there'd be no ambiguity.

    That as you know is a quote from the prosecutor. They're no more impartial than the defence, so I wouldn't base your entire opinion around the 'significant' part.


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