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Whiskey.. Irish or Scottish?

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  • #32
    ciaran76
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    If you see the 3 pack miniture in Lidl of the Ben Bracken range and they say there are three bottlings sourced from unnamed distilleries in Speyside, Islay and the Highlands.

    Its a good way to taste different styles for about €20 if I remember correctly.


  • #33
    blackbox
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    I'm not a fan of peat. The experience is too much like sticking your head up a chimney!
    Some lowland Scotch is OK, but I generally stick to Irish.


  • #34
    Effects
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    There's a lot of scotch that isn't peated as well.
    I've been working on a Balvenie 12 Year Old Triple Cask, and it's really nice.


  • #35
    odyssey06
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    Gavin1986 wrote: »
    As a neat or straight up drink, I prefer Scottish as is it have stronger aroma and taste. Irish is better to use as a mixer in drinks.

    Have you tried Jameson Crested, Powers John Lane, Writers Tears or Redbreast 12?
    Or are you more a fan of the heavily peated Scotch?

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  • #36
    odyssey06
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    Effects wrote: »
    There's a lot of scotch that isn't peated as well.
    I've been working on a Balvenie 12 Year Old Triple Cask, and it's really nice.

    None of the Speysides are peated, if you want to carry on your tour of region e.g. Glenlivet, Glenfiddich. Try to stick to the ones with age statements though.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • #37
    chooseusername
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    After a few Jamies my father used to try this tongue twister on us,

    "Whiskey when you're sick makes you well,
    Whisky makes you sick when you're well."

    Even when we were sure we got it right ,he'd switch it around,
    and confuse us even more


  • #38
    Marcos
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    More a fan of the non peaty whiskies, so generally Irish for me. But if I had to choose a scotch, then something like Old Pulteney is a nice drop. Of course, that's just me YMMV. Anyway, enjoy.

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  • #39
    dvdman1
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    Scotish whiskey has more non-peated whiskey than the whole Irish industry...its a serious misconception to think scotch is peated mostly.
    I love both, you'll move onto peated for variety if you drink whiskey regularly.


  • #40
    Gavin1986
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    Effects wrote: »
    That sounds like a bit of a generalisation to be honest.
    Maybe… I’m not claiming to be the world's foremost authority, I can tell only about my experience, and it is not very deep. But I’ll take the recommendations of Irish whiskey above.:)


  • #41
    Gavin1986
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    odyssey06 wrote: »
    Have you tried Jameson Crested, Powers John Lane, Writers Tears or Redbreast 12?
    Or are you more a fan of the heavily peated Scotch?

    No, I haven't, but I'll try)


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  • #42
    odyssey06
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    Gavin1986 wrote: »
    No, I haven't, but I'll try)

    Keep an eye out for this, sometimes on offer in Dunnes & Dublin Airport - great way to sample some premium Irish whiskies.

    The Irish pot still miniature set.
    https://www.obrienswine.ie/single-pot-still-gift-4-x-50ml-10860.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMI3uSzx4O95wIVyLTtCh1iogFVEAQYASABEgItU_D_BwE#fo_c=2601&fo_k=adf9e2e97b037800f469a5c5aa93291f&fo_s=gplaie?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&device=c&network=g

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  • #43
    Wailin
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    dvdman1 wrote: »
    Scotish whiskey has more non-peated whiskey than the whole Irish industry...its a serious misconception to think scotch is peated mostly.
    I love both, you'll move onto peated for variety if you drink whiskey regularly.

    Yep, there is a huge misconception here on this thread about Scottish whisky and peat. There is a reason why scotch is much bigger than Irish globally.

    The triple distillation used in Irish tends to create a "smoother" whiskey, but it loses a lot of character too and many scotch drinkers find Irish whiskey weak and bland in comparison.

    Personally, I love both. But scotch is generally more complex and offers more on the nose while Irish is lighter and a little sweeter. A well aged sherry matured scotch is probably my favourite whisky overall. Glendronach 18 or 21 yo are both examples and are magnificent.

    Was lucky enough to get a bottle of Glengoyne 25 for christmas last year. 25 years in first fill sherry casks...look at the natural colour. No caramel colouring like you get in most Irish whiskies, especially anything from midleton.

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  • #44
    Hodors Appletart
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    Had a Powers JL the other night, neat.

    It was grand, but I still prefer something like Glenmorangie, the PJL was still a little harsh than I usually enjoy, and the base level Glenmorangie is lovely and fruity too.

    I'm not knocking PJL, if people say it's good or great then that's cool, tastes differ, and I was looking to give it a try for a while. Glad I did too, but I won't buy a bottle of it, nor would I turn it down if offered.


  • #45
    beardybrewer
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    I concur with the above sentiment of not placing yourself in one camp or the other. I freely travel both roads and am continually surprised and impressed by the offerings of both. Long ago I liked but dismissed whiskey as pedestrian and was a whisky snob. Islay first then Speyside and Highland in warmer weather or simply to take a break from the peatey stuff. However by proximity I drink mostly whiskey and there's some great ones when I stretch above the usual suspects. I'm immensely enjoying a bottle of Teeling single grain right now. Even the other day I was remarking how lovely Bushmills bog standard white label is. I'm a whisky snob no more.


  • #46
    picachu
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    I think time and trying as many different types of both brings you on a journey. I hated peaty /smokey scotch 2 years ago... now i love it...
    It was a bottle of bowmore 12 that got me into it... you have to dip your toes gently with islays.


  • #47
    Effects
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    Wailin wrote: »
    No caramel colouring like you get in most Irish whiskies.

    Isn't that an odd statement? Scottish whiskey is more likely to have caramel colouring than Irish whiskey.


  • #48
    Wailin
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    Does it? How do you know? As far as I can tell, Teelings are the only Irish distillery that don't use colouring in any of their whiskies, even young batches. Hats off to them. I could name at least twenty Scottish distillerys that don't add it.

    Anyway, that wasn't the point of my post was it?


  • #49
    Effects
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    Wailin wrote: »

    Anyway, that wasn't the point of my post was it?

    No, it was a part I picked up on.

    It's just that I've read a lot more about scotch using colouring than Irish whiskey.


  • #50
    Wailin
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    I think that might be because companies like Diageo Pernod and Hennessey own the biggest portion of Scottish distilleries and most of those use E150. Johnny Walker is the worlds best selling whisky and is owned by Diageo so that sways the percentage a bit.


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