This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

w124man · 12-01-2020 7:53pm

Minister Boyce wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/w124-mercedesbenz-230e-auto-19862years-nct/23412916?campaign=3

This is the same colour combination as my 300SE, Smoke Silver with Medium Red cloth. Its actually a very good colour combination. I'm gonna have a look at this one. The paint does look as though its been tampered with and an ill fitting boot lid is relatively common as someone has had a go at it. The boot floor looks okay as the factory sound dampening is untouched

kadman · 12-01-2020 10:04pm

w124man wrote: »

This is the same colour combination as my 300SE, Smoke Silver with Medium Red cloth. Its actually a very good colour combination. I'm gonna have a look at this one. The paint does look as though its been tampered with and an ill fitting boot lid is relatively common as someone has had a go at it. The boot floor looks okay as the factory sound dampening is untouched

I contacted the guy and got the UK reg number, and checked out the MOT history.

Too many"corroded " advisories on the most recent mot to tempt me.

I am not really looking at my first ventuere into MB to result in major work to be honest. Had enough of that at the moment with a current beetle and fastback resto.

Number is C738 HTH

unkel · 12-01-2020 11:38pm

+1

Nearside Front Brake pipe corroded, covered in grease or other material (1.1.11 (c))
Exhaust noisy (8.1.1 (a))
Front Exhaust has a minor leak of exhaust gases (6.1.2 (a))
Nearside Rear Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive outer sill corroded (7.1.1 (a) (i))
Nearside Rear Coil spring corroded (5.3.1 (b) (i))
Offside Rear Coil spring corroded (5.3.1 (b) (i))
Front Anti-roll bar pin or bush worn but not resulting in excessive movement (5.3.4 (a) (i))
Front Sub-frame corroded but not seriously weakened (5.3.3 (b) (i))
Offside Front Wheel bearing slightly noisy (5.1.3 (b) (i))
Nearside Rear Tyre worn close to legal limit/worn on edge (5.2.3 (e))
Offside Front floor corroded
fuel cap seal perished

And that was nearly a year ago, MOT nearly out. That will never pass an NCT here.

elperello · 12-01-2020 11:47pm

unkel wrote: »

+1

And that was nearly a year ago, MOT nearly out. That will never pass an NCT here.

He says in the ad that it is selling with a new NCT.
It's going to cost a few quid to fix.
Four new tyres on it as well.

oceanman · 12-01-2020 11:49pm

unkel wrote: »

+1

And that was nearly a year ago, MOT nearly out. That will never pass an NCT here.

unless you drop a backhander

swarlb · 13-01-2020 12:04am

oceanman wrote: »

unless you drop a backhander

How do you 'drop a backhander' to the NCT in order to get a pass.... is it at reception, or do you wink at the guy testing the car, or slip an envelope as he's heading to the office after testing....
Is it only certain test centres you can go to, or are they all 'corrupt'...
Can the tester influence the machinery in order for it to 'pass' the car, and then change it back for the next customer (who obviously hasn't coughed up the required fee)

Seriously....

oceanman · 13-01-2020 12:14am

swarlb wrote: »

How do you 'drop a backhander' to the NCT in order to get a pass.... is it at reception, or do you wink at the guy testing the car, or slip an envelope as he's heading to the office after testing....
Is it only certain test centres you can go to, or are they all 'corrupt'...
Can the tester influence the machinery in order for it to 'pass' the car, and then change it back for the next customer (who obviously hasn't coughed up the required fee)

Seriously....

you are obviously new to the game....

kadman · 13-01-2020 12:51am

I want a decent MB for my first one, not a load of work.

And i would never need nor expect to get a pass with a backhander. I want all my vehicles to be safe
and roadworthy. Thats why I do all my own resto work, luckily.

Bodywork,mechanics, engine rebuilds, welding ect,ect. So I am not looking for a project that needs
lots of work at the moment.

Thats why this one does not suit me.

swarlb · 13-01-2020 1:08am

oceanman wrote: »

you are obviously new to the game....

Maybe (I'm quite possibly older than you) but if you don't want to mention how it's done here, on a public forum, maybe you could send me a PM, you don't need to mention your name, just give me the details. I've a car due a retest, and I simply don't want to invest the time or money required in getting it fixed.

I really would like to know how 'it's done'.... seriously...

BonnieSituation · 13-01-2020 1:18am

swarlb wrote: »

Maybe (I'm quite possibly older than you) but if you don't want to mention how it's done here, on a public forum, maybe you could send me a PM, you don't need to mention your name, just give me the details. I've a car due a retest, and I simply don't want to invest the time or money required in getting it fixed.

I really would like to know how 'it's done'.... seriously...

Then it really shouldn't be on the road.

jmreire · 13-01-2020 1:33am

Minister Boyce wrote: »

I thought the front wing and door colours were a tad different. Could be daylight trickery though.

Definitely the two doors are different colour than the front wing and the 1/4 panel. And as they are on the same plane,reflection wise, you can easily see the difference....i'd be taking a much closer look at the body under the circumstances. The Red upholstery is something else all right, but I'm sure that it will have it's affectionados..

;);)

kadman · 13-01-2020 12:09pm

jmreire wrote: »

Definitely the two doors are different colour than the front wing and the 1/4 panel. And as they are on the same plane,reflection wise, you can easily see the difference....i'd be taking a much closer look at the body under the circumstances. The Red upholstery is something else all right, but I'm sure that it will have it's affectionados.. ;);)

Checkout post 4793, if you have not already.

jmreire · 13-01-2020 1:20pm

kadman wrote: »

Checkout post 4793, if you have not already.

Yes kadman, I have. Most of the items "advised" are marked "corroded", yet it passed the MOT, so ( without having actually been underneath the car and seen 1st hand the extent of the corrosion ) I think that in this case, the corrosion is superficial, and a good clean down and re-sealing and painting would go a long way. What I would be worried about though, is what is unseen. New carpeting could be hiding multitudes of rust problems, and the reality is, you never really know what you are up against until you start actually working on the car. The colour difference on the Passenger Side , is worrying too, of course. But if this particular model is especially rare ( is it? ) then I guess some one out there will be in the market for it.
I see that you have a VW Beetle restoration project in progress. How is that going for you? I spent 5 years working in a VW Dealership, so I still have an interest in them.

kadman · 13-01-2020 2:43pm

jmreire wrote: »

Yes kadman, I have. Most of the items "advised" are marked "corroded", yet it passed the MOT, so ( without having actually been underneath the car and seen 1st hand the extent of the corrosion ) I think that in this case, the corrosion is superficial, and a good clean down and re-sealing and painting would go a long way. What I would be worried about though, is what is unseen. New carpeting could be hiding multitudes of rust problems, and the reality is, you never really know what you are up against until you start actually working on the car. The colour difference on the Passenger Side , is worrying too, of course. But if this particular model is especially rare ( is it? ) then I guess some one out there will be in the market for it.
I see that you have a VW Beetle restoration project in progress. How is that going for you? I spent 5 years working in a VW Dealership, so I still have an interest in them.

Beetle resto is more or less complete. I am just making new leather seat covers for front and back. Then some superficial stuff.

Also have the fast back nearly ready for final assembly bits, wings bonnets ect re attached. But all the grunt work done. And after all this, I just want to spend a few months driving, as opposed to working on body work..

So thats why I am looking for something that has less of a "corrosive" history than this merc. In my experience, superficial corrosion, tends to get more extensive when you start digging. Corrosion on suspension,steering, mechanical parts, is just a change over to new parts.
But body corrosion tends to get bigger.

oceanman · 13-01-2020 2:51pm

swarlb wrote: »

Maybe (I'm quite possibly older than you) but if you don't want to mention how it's done here, on a public forum, maybe you could send me a PM, you don't need to mention your name, just give me the details. I've a car due a retest, and I simply don't want to invest the time or money required in getting it fixed.

I really would like to know how 'it's done'.... seriously...

your best bet is if you know someone in car sales, most garages that sell used cars will nearly always have a good contact in the nct center. it will cost you a few quid though...

Duke O Smiley · 13-01-2020 2:54pm

Gone are the days when you could leave a 50 note hanging out of the ashtray...or so I'm told :P

oceanman · 13-01-2020 3:11pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

Gone are the days when you could leave a 50 note hanging out of the ashtray...or so I'm told :P

yeah, cost you a bit more these days alright.:)

swarlb · 13-01-2020 5:01pm

oceanman wrote: »

your best bet is if you know someone in car sales, most garages that sell used cars will nearly always have a good contact in the nct center. it will cost you a few quid though...

Ye know.... I retired recently after close on 45 years in 'the motor trade'... and I can honestly say I've never defrauded anyone. I fixed whatever was required, I charged what I thought was a fair price for whatever work was completed, and I honestly stood over any vehicles I sold.
It's a shame that my 'trade' is still tarnished with the 'cute hoor' mentality.
I'm glad I'm out of it....

oceanman · 13-01-2020 5:34pm

swarlb wrote: »

Ye know.... I retired recently after close on 45 years in 'the motor trade'... and I can honestly say I've never defrauded anyone. I fixed whatever was required, I charged what I thought was a fair price for whatever work was completed, and I honestly stood over any vehicles I sold.
It's a shame that my 'trade' is still tarnished with the 'cute hoor' mentality.
I'm glad I'm out of it....

I agree, glad im out of it too....its a snake pit.

Duke O Smiley · 13-01-2020 8:43pm

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1990-suzuki-alto-3cylinder-850cc-/23939990

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This looks lovely, and would make an excellent low cost classic runabout.

I ran one for a year (only sold it before Christmas) and it was excellent. 4 new tyres were €90, timing belt kit with w/p was 50, basic service items were peanuts. They are a great little car, very light on fuel and just very easy to drive generally. Well up for a bit of hard work too!

junkyarddog · 13-01-2020 8:50pm

^^^^^I know some dogs like to chase a stick,but that is ridiculous

BonnieSituation · 13-01-2020 9:13pm

Duke O Smiley wrote: »

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/1990-suzuki-alto-3cylinder-850cc-/23939990

This looks lovely, and would make an excellent low cost classic runabout.

I ran one for a year (only sold it before Christmas) and it was excellent. 4 new tyres were €90, timing belt kit with w/p was 50, basic service items were peanuts. They are a great little car, very light on fuel and just very easy to drive generally. Well up for a bit of hard work too!

That's a lovely looking yoke.

Duke O Smiley · 13-01-2020 9:17pm

BonnieSituation wrote: »

That's a lovely looking yoke.

Its rare to see one in a colour that isn't that silver-ey colour that both of mine were. Looks quite good I think

Theres a surprising number of them left on the roads here, old fella over in Rathmines has a delightfully scruffy 88 one, and I've seen/heard of a few others

Wibbs · 14-01-2020 10:04am

One owner from new too. I reckon that's a bloody bargain.

Duke O Smiley · 14-01-2020 10:17am

Hmm, I paid 150 for mine last year with a years NCT. Although it was dog rough.

I also had a 1 owner 89 example, with 11k miles and FSH, utterly and completely mint - bought for a nominal fee of €80 from the original owner. I miss that one dearly

kadman · 14-01-2020 10:35am

I was all ready to view a potential merc purchase this morning. Tools lamps,
mats jacks overalls, locked and loaded good to go, with one last online check to do for 10 euro.

To do check list all sorted (thanks W124man)

Online check resulted in an insurance write off, on 2 occasions over the last 10 years,
last one being extensive accident damage.

Category C and D write off.

Not what I am looking for. I dont want to buy a potential headache

Well spent 10 euro.

Anyone currently looking at potential merc purchases in the classics, and this might be the one
pm me for the report.

Duke O Smiley · 14-01-2020 11:13am

https://www.donedeal.ie/vintagecars-for-sale/volkswagon-beetle/23936263

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This looks like it could be a bit of a bargain. Same owner for the last 20 years, nice bit of recent work done, €3500

MaciTrevor · 14-01-2020 11:18am

This British Startup Is Converting Regal Classic Cars Into Electric Vehicles.

Dades · 14-01-2020 3:30pm

Lovely Beetle.

Once of not many classics that I think would actually be a good candidate for going electric.

kadman · 14-01-2020 3:42pm

Beetle has had no work done really. It has no timing belt.

This weeks Classic Irish bargains that I'm not buying

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