Death is such a waste of time .....

Hamsterchops · 03-01-2020 08:50AM #1

Just thinking about death in the last couple of days.

We'll all get there at some point I guess, so I'm just thinking aloud about it. I mean what's the point of it? Alive one minute, dead the next and that's it, full stop. Such a waste of life.

I guess it's the same as being in a deep sleep or under anesthetic in the surgery? It's the people who are left behind who get hurt & have to carry on, while the departed have left the building and are unaware of the grief ....

I'd hate to go before my time, but when is my time?
When will the Grim Reaper call for me? 60, 69, 74, 85, 99?
So many questions with so little time in a lifetime. They used to say "Three score years & ten", but in the grand scheme of things that's not really ideal, so I'll be hoping for at least four score years + a few extra for good behaviour, then again...

FixdePitchmark · 03-01-2020 08:58AM

some people think life is a waste of death.

NIMAN · 03-01-2020 08:59AM

All the more reason to make the most of your time.

Hercule Poirot · 03-01-2020 09:02AM

In the grand scheme of human existence, if you were to create a timeline from when humankind first had proper thoughts and societal impact, a person's life accounts for approximately 0.001% of rational human life.

Now you can look at this two ways....

1) Your existence means nothing and ultimately has zero impact on the grand scheme of things and therefore there is no point trying to do anything, or, and this is my preferred option

2) We are here for such a short time we are as well to get as much as out of it as can - live the way we choose to live, do the things we want to do and just be happy with what we have

Death is the great equaliser and it doesn't discriminate on age, gender, orientation, religion, etc, so just be who you want to be, do what you want to do - as long as you aren't hurting others that's all we can do

Life is to be lived, not to be spent worrying about things we can't control - enjoy it and have fun

03-01-2020 09:07AM

Some people do say that every good story needs a beginning a middle and - yes alas - an end.

Think of the best book you ever read - or best TV series you ever followed - and then imagine it _never_ ending ever. Going on and on and on and on and on. Would it be as good?

Even the fact you could meaningfully write the words "waste of time" - in a way that suggests time is valuable in the first place - only makes sense in the light of that time being limited. If you had an infinite supply of it - it would not have that value to you in the first place.

screamer · 03-01-2020 09:34AM

You have all the time in the world, because you only have the time you have, and when death comes knocking, that’s it, lights out. That’s how I look at it anyways, I have whatever time I have and that’s all I’ll know, others might think a waste of life if I go early, I won’t know the difference.

Rose of Lima · 03-01-2020 09:44AM

Hercule Poirot wrote: »

Life is to be lived, not to be spent worrying about things we can't control - enjoy it and have fun

I agree that you must make the best of your life, but those plans shouldn't just revolve around you alone. If you want to live the best life that you can live, you need to consider other people and the world around you to make a real impact.

If you died tomorrow what would people remember about you? Is being remembered for being 'good craic' enough?

sbsquarepants · 03-01-2020 09:52AM

Rose of Lima wrote: »

If you died tomorrow what would people remember about you? Is being remembered for being 'good craic' enough?

Enough to do what?

Makes no difference, you're rotting away in a box no matter who remembers what!

Who would you rather be right now this minute - Rose of Lima, or Julius Cesar?

weldoninhio · 03-01-2020 10:01AM

Rose of Lima wrote: »

I agree that you must make the best of your life, but those plans shouldn't just revolve around you alone. If you want to live the best life that you can live, you need to consider other people and the world around you to make a real impact.

If you died tomorrow what would people remember about you? Is being remembered for being 'good craic' enough?

You'll only be remembered for a few years at most. Now people might still know you, but they won't be thinking what a kind/generous/bastard/great craic after a few years, they'll just remember you are dead.

Rose of Lima · 03-01-2020 10:05AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Enough to do what?

It was not a complicated question. I asked the original poster if being remembered as 'good craic' was enough for him. Would he be content with that.

If you want to be remembered as good craic and happily rot in your box, then you do that.

sbsquarepants · 03-01-2020 10:18AM

Rose of Lima wrote: »

It was not a complicated question. I asked the original poster if being remembered as 'good craic' was enough for him. Would he be content with that.

If you want to be remembered as good craic and happily rot in your box, then you do that.

The way i meant it is Julius Cesar is no less dead than some randomer who no one remembers. They are both a lot more dead than you or I - who no one will probably remember in 100 years time.

Being remembered is an idea that appeals to some living people, but makes no difference whatsoever to any dead ones.

73bc61lyohr0mu · 03-01-2020 10:20AM

Life just seems like a waste of time. We live and suffer just to die and have zero recollection of anything. What's the point of struggling through this pointless existence when ultimately it means nothing.

Rose of Lima · 03-01-2020 10:20AM

weldoninhio wrote: »

You'll only be remembered for a few years at most. Now people might still know you, but they won't be thinking what a kind/generous/bastard/great craic after a few years, they'll just remember you are dead.

Some people are remembered long after their death though, for good reasons, and bad.

If you are to live your best life you need to really value it first. You could visit the four corners of the world, bungee jump off things to your heart's content. Party until you drop etc. but would you go to your grave content with your lot was my question really.

Rose of Lima · 03-01-2020 10:25AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Being remembered is an idea that appeals to some living people, but makes no difference whatsoever to any dead ones.

Okay. Leaving being remembered aside for a moment. If a doctor told you tomorrow you have approximately 12 months to live. What would you do?

sbsquarepants · 03-01-2020 10:30AM

Rose of Lima wrote: »

Okay. Leaving being remembered aside for a moment. If a doctor told you tomorrow you have approximately 12 months to live. What would you do?

Die of shock in his office:D

I don't know to be honest - i don't have a bucket list or anything, there are things i'd like to do of course, but nothing that's eating away at me, so i probably wouldn't be arsed trying to do them. I'd just try to spend as much time with my kids as I could.

I know i won't actually miss them, because i won't exist to miss anything - but it's the only thing i'd be bothered by i think.

Hercule Poirot · 03-01-2020 10:33AM

Rose of Lima wrote: »

I agree that you must make the best of your life, but those plans shouldn't just revolve around you alone. If you want to live the best life that you can live, you need to consider other people and the world around you to make a real impact.

If you died tomorrow what would people remember about you? Is being remembered for being 'good craic' enough?

Honestly I couldn't give a monkeys what people said after I died. Is it vain to say that I know I'd remembered fondly? Because I know there's people in my life who care about me, and I care about them - but once I'm dead there's not much I can do about anything, so I'm not going to worry about it.

We spend way to much time worrying about sh1te that really doesn't matter

branie2 · 03-01-2020 10:36AM

It's inevitable

Bigbagofcans · 03-01-2020 10:37AM

"They say you die twice. One time when you stop breathing and a second time, a bit later on, when somebody says your name for the last time."

Nitty Gritty · 03-01-2020 10:38AM

You're all great craic for a fresh new year....

weldoninhio · 03-01-2020 10:43AM

Rose of Lima wrote: »

Some people are remembered long after their death though, for good reasons, and bad.

If you are to live your best life you need to really value it first. You could visit the four corners of the world, bungee jump off things to your heart's content. Party until you drop etc. but would you go to your grave content with your lot was my question really.

You'd go to your grave dead, your lot matters not a jot.

Hamsterchops · 03-01-2020 10:55AM

Still haven't worked out what's going on my headstone, this troubles me. Not that I'm I'll or anything, but I would like to get the wording right, rather than leave it to my wife

Life is what happens while you're busy making other plans, type of thing....

Irish Guitarist · 03-01-2020 11:01AM

John Lennon is remembered as a musical genius but he was shot in the back by a sick piece of shit at age forty, then a few years ago his wife used his blood covered glasses in her 'art'.

Jimi Hendrix is considered by many people to be the worlds greatest guitarist. He died at age 27 from taking an overdose of sleeping pills and choking on his vomit in his sleep. I can't remember the exact details but a few years ago his step sister wanted to dig up his corpse to move somewhere where fans could visit. She's making a fortune from releasing his music but that's not good enough for her.

Fuck being remembered or making an impact on the world.

Rose of Lima · 03-01-2020 11:02AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

I'd just try to spend as much time with my kids as I could.

I know i won't actually miss them, because i won't exist to miss anything - but it's the only thing i'd be bothered by i think.

But they would remember you

My question wasn't a trick one, by the way. What I'm trying to get across is that even if you cease to exist and you're off to your box - it isn't a one dimensional thing. The people you leave behind will have had a life and memories with you, and left with the pain of your death. Being dead doesn't mean you stop being remembered, or for the kind of person you were in life.

begbysback · 03-01-2020 11:04AM

Alan Watts has some great takes on such questions, one is that we are doing it wrong in that we should be celebrating death same as birth. Another is that such as life implies death & vice versa, our understanding of death is illogical, in that it would ultimately mean that we are going to sleep having never actually woken up.

niallers1 · 03-01-2020 11:06AM

You are here to keep the species going just like any other insect, animal or plant on this lump of rock.

begbysback · 03-01-2020 11:12AM

niallers1 wrote: »

You are here to keep the species going just like any other insect, animal or plant on this lump of rock.

So then, what’s the purpose of keeping the species going?

niallers1 · 03-01-2020 11:25AM

begbysback wrote: »

So then, what’s the purpose of keeping the species going?

To feed our reptilian overlords obviously.
You know, like the British Royal family and the like.

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weird/768800/David-Icke-queen-shape-shifting-lizard

sbsquarepants · 03-01-2020 11:27AM

begbysback wrote: »

So then, what’s the purpose of keeping the species going?

Why does there need to be a purpose?

begbysback · 03-01-2020 11:36AM

sbsquarepants wrote: »

Why does there need to be a purpose?

If there is no purpose then why keep the species going?

sbsquarepants · 03-01-2020 11:40AM

Existence is it's own reward begbysback!

I don't think i serve any higher purpose just by existing, but i'd still rather exist than not.

I didn't exist for billions of years and it's didn't appear to make much difference. Soon enough i won't exist again, and the universe will motor on just fine i expect.

But right now - i'd rather be here, than not here!

nullzero · 03-01-2020 11:43AM

Get busy living or get busy dying.

Death is such a waste of time .....

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