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2k fine for 30k above limit...

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Del2005 wrote: »
    There can still be a 120 limit on an N road. If there's no alternative route the road has to stay a national road so learners or slow vehicles can use it but the limit can be 120 if its built to motorway standard.
    Is there actually any N road with a speed limit of 120kph?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,670 ✭✭✭✭CJhaughey




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,214 ✭✭✭Murt10


    Coming off the M50, at lots of exits, you go from 100 mph and in a very short time you're supposed to slow down to a totally inappropriate 30kph. That's 18mph in old money.
    Literally everyone ignores it, and it would be very dangerous if someone decided to stand on the brakes to slow down to the speed required. Plus they'd be blown off the road for being inconsiderate.
    Brand new roads and some prik decided that 18mph is the maximum speed you're allowed do. FFS, if you're on the motorway in the first place, then by definition, you have to hold a full licence.
    Doesn't happen abroad. Poor Paddy is too stupid of calculating how fast/slow they should be going. Are we really that incapable of judging for ourselves what an appropiate speed is? This just brings the law into disrepute and even the appropriate rules get ignored.
    A speed limit is supposed to be just that. It's not a target. It should be up to the driver to decide what an appropriate speed is relative to road, weather and lighting conditions.

    I blame the cycling lobby in the NRA. Couldn't organize a pics up in a brewery.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,167 ✭✭✭✭blade1


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Is there actually any N road with a speed limit of 120kph?
    Carrigtwohill to Cork is 120.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭zubair


    Del2005 wrote: »
    There can still be a 120 limit on an N road. If there's no alternative route the road has to stay a national road so learners or slow vehicles can use it but the limit can be 120 if its built to motorway standard.

    Not the N7 though :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,904 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Murt10 wrote: »
    Coming off the M50, at lots of exits, you go from 100 mph and in a very short time you're supposed to slow down to a totally inappropriate 30kph.

    1. Don't do 100 mph then.
    2. You know what is up ahead. Adjust your speed.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    blade1 wrote: »
    Carrigtwohill to Cork is 120.

    N1 north of Dundalk too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,380 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    The fúck has happened to this forum?

    Sad.


    Don't any of you recognise a self-publicist career w@nker like Shane Ross when you see one? Election coming up, spout something controversial, name in papers, job done. Because that's what he sees as his job - getting himself elected - not doing anything useful in relation to transport. He's done nothing in relation to his actual job and spends more time giving out about a garda station in his backyard being closed.


    I swear to fúck, if in a few years he or some other gobsh!te proposes that speeders will be shot without trial, there will be people on this forum thanking it. :rolleyes:

    NEVER, EVER forget that if you gave people like that their way they'd ban motorbikes entirely in the morning.

    Hang up your helmets in shame.

    :mad:

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,380 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    Victor wrote: »
    1. Don't do 100 mph then.

    You know what he meant ffs.

    I'm partial to your abracadabra
    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 535 ✭✭✭Banzai600



    NEVER, EVER forget that if you gave people like that their way they'd ban motorbikes entirely in the morning.


    :mad:




    i thought i was the only one noticing the anti-motorbike agenda in this country...so im not imagining it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,037 ✭✭✭DellyBelly


    Sunday is the worst day for road deaths.

    Have you the lotto numbers as well for this weekend?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,554 ✭✭✭bladespin


    DellyBelly wrote: »
    Have you the lotto numbers as well for this weekend?

    Pretty sure the RSA can't tell you that but they do know the worst day to ride a bike.
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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,138 ✭✭✭Salary Negotiator


    bladespin wrote: »
    Pretty sure the RSA can't tell you that but they do know the worst day to ride a bike.

    The stat I saw wasn't specifically for bikes, but yeah easy enough for the RSA to calculate on what day most road deaths occur.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 194 ✭✭BrianHal


    bladespin wrote: »
    Pretty sure the RSA can't tell you that but they do know the worst day to ride a bike.

    Is Sunday the worst day because the road deaths happen mostly between 00:00 and 04:00 on Sundays?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭zubair


    I think this stat is based on motorbikes, I've heard it before. There are more bikers on the road, some are seasonal riders and tend to have less mileage and are out for a hot spin on secondary and regional roads. Makes sense to me anyway.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭gooch2k9


    N1 north of Dundalk too.

    Is that where the motorway becomes dual carriageway before the border? I'm always slowing down on that stretch!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,924 ✭✭✭dashcamdanny


    The fúck has happened to this forum?

    Sad.


    Don't any of you recognise a self-publicist career w@nker like Shane Ross when you see one? Election coming up, spout something controversial, name in papers, job done. Because that's what he sees as his job - getting himself elected - not doing anything useful in relation to transport. He's done nothing in relation to his actual job and spends more time giving out about a garda station in his backyard being closed.


    I swear to fúck, if in a few years he or some other gobsh!te proposes that speeders will be shot without trial, there will be people on this forum thanking it. :rolleyes:

    NEVER, EVER forget that if you gave people like that their way they'd ban motorbikes entirely in the morning.

    Hang up your helmets in shame.

    :mad:
    Nail on the head.

    Since he has come in, any poor soul that has to pass through the city center on a bus , car or taxi may have to bring a packed lunch as they are going to be stuck there for hours as his NTA decided to put a train through Collage Green.

    Lets face it, he is not up to the job, and a few last ditch attempts to give cyclist more rights and catch speeders is futile. Its a cop out. And a lame attempt to deal with the fact that he cant provide a safer cycle segregated infrastructure or more Garda to police the rules that already exist.

    Unfortunately the snowflake generation are easy pulled along.

    And unfortunately they also have a vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 41,380 ✭✭✭✭Hotblack Desiato


    It's not even that he's not up to his job - which he isn't - he's not interested in even trying to do his job. A complete tosser.

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    I'm raptured by the joy of it all



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,268 ✭✭✭Keith186


    I’m all for progressive punishments for faster speeds as the current 3 points for barely exceeding the limit isn’t fair or right.

    Ross has got the formula all wrong, should be on percentages over the limit instead like some other places have but he still managed to mess it up. No surprise really.

    They always go for the excessive punishment in these laws to put fear into people because there’s barely any enforcement.

    Imagine a €2000 fine and court date for driving 131km/h on the M50?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭zubair


    Keith186 wrote: »
    Imagine a €2000 fine and court date for driving 131km/h on the M50?

    You think that's mad, imagine a speed check on the m50! (not that I'm complaining)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,904 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    Keith186 wrote: »
    Ross has got the formula all wrong, should be on percentages over the limit instead like some other places have but he still managed to mess it up.
    I disagree. Consider how much energy is in a vehicle materially above 100 km/h on a road that could have vulnerable road users.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,560 ✭✭✭batman_oh


    Victor wrote: »
    I disagree. Consider how much energy is in a vehicle materially above 100 km/h on a road that could have vulnerable road users.

    A bike doing 130kmh on the M50 is going to kill all the cyclists and children playing on the road?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭zubair


    batman_oh wrote: »
    A bike doing 130kmh on the M50 is going to kill all the cyclists and children playing on the road?

    Proper LOL'd at this


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 78,904 ✭✭✭✭Victor


    batman_oh wrote: »
    A bike doing 130kmh on the M50 is going to kill all the cyclists and children playing on the road?
    I specifically didn't mention the M50.


  • Posts: 13,753 ✭✭✭✭ Trey Some Toupee


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Good news this, that's 80kph in 50kph zone or 60kph outside a school! They do this in Germany. I believe it's an automatic disqualification for double the speed limit. In Sweden I think the fine is down to how rich you are!

    As should be the case here. Someone earning 25k receiving the same fine as a multi-millionaire is comical.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,679 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    As should be the case here. Someone earning 25k receiving the same fine as a multi-millionaire is comical.

    Even worse when they pay same motor tax.

    How comical...

    The outrage over this is comical, too, since there is no enforcement nothing will change.

    Literally nothing. Just in case watch your speedo, though.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,865 ✭✭✭Peatys


    What year was the motor way speed limit set to 70mph?

    Think cars have come on a fair bit since then, so up the limit to 150kph and bring in the 2k fine for 30 over the limit at the same time.

    Target the ones who speed past schools and through housing estates.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,679 ✭✭✭✭wonski


    110-130 limit is standard all across Europe really.

    Then you have environmental impact etc so forget about it being increased anytime soon, if ever.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,715 ✭✭✭D3V!L


    They'll do a token "slow-down" weekend where they'll enforce this and make a big deal about it in the media. Then F*CK all will happen after that. Like every other law in the country, people will flaunt it and nothing will be enforced.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,153 ✭✭✭H_Lime


    You don't have to be caught by the fuzz themselves, what if yer flashed by the van over 30k.
    Mark my words, loads are going to be reamed by this and it reinforces my belief that obscure isolated back roads on a single are all there is left lol.


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