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Manchester United Teamtalk/Transfer Rumours/Gossip 2019/20

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  • Posts: 27,583 ✭✭✭✭ Anaya Numerous Six-pack




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    There may be plans to eventually modernise Old Trafford according to The Telegraph.....well it's going to be looked into.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,317 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT



    As a pundit have a lot of respect for carragher

    The guy knows his football


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,317 ✭✭✭✭DARK-KNIGHT


    There may be plans to eventually modernise Old Trafford according to The Telegraph.....well it's going to be looked into.

    Should be funny seeing ed throwing the info out

    A new world class stadium to sell the naming rights to for a mid table team


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 13,059 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cookiemunster


    Should be funny seeing ed throwing the info out

    A new world class stadium to sell the naming rights to for a mid table team


    All the quotes come from an interview Woodward did with United We Stand. Andy Mitten had an article up yesterday.

    No new ground or expansion of OT is on the cards.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,005 ✭✭✭BDI


    Should be funny seeing ed throwing the info out

    A new world class stadium to sell the naming rights to for a mid table team

    Old spice trafford


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,428 ✭✭✭✭gimli2112


    As a pundit have a lot of respect for carragher

    The guy knows his football

    He doesn't always come across the brightest but is apparently obsessed with all things football related and has maintained a library of stuff from a young age. Comes across as totally OCD. Always think pundits have a shelf live. They typically start out strong but you lose respect for them the longer they are at it. I used to think Andy Gray was marvelous.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Ed is waiting for the Saudi's

    They can get a stadium built in two months

    https://twitter.com/BBCSport/status/1199276031481434112?s=19


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 18,745 Mod ✭✭✭✭DM_7


    Will United get fined for fielding a weak team or are those days gone?



























    Waits for someome to point out the team is weak every game


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭Adamcp898



    Jesus, from that first tweet for a second I thought Ole had decided he wasn’t arsed going to Kazakhstan. Thought the club had finally reached rock bottom.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    All the quotes come from an interview Woodward did with United We Stand. Andy Mitten had an article up yesterday.

    No new ground or expansion of OT is on the cards.

    I think it's just fixing up the stadium,the roof and other stuff needs work.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    A lick of paint and a little bit of lip service. No way they plunge a huge amount of capital into developing the stadium, but if they did it would be a sure sign they've no intention to sell up anytime soon.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,981 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Our young team will probably be more fun to watch tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,369 ✭✭✭Rossi IRL


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    Our young team will probably be more fun to watch tbh.

    Make or break game for Chong and Gomes if the play..... Both were rumored to be leaving at end of contracts. Not sure if they have signed since them rumors.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,709 ✭✭✭✭Cantona's Collars


    Adamcp898 wrote: »
    A lick of paint and a little bit of lip service. No way they plunge a huge amount of capital into developing the stadium, but if they did it would be a sure sign they've no intention to sell up anytime soon.

    There'll be feasibility studies done and that can will be kicked down the road, general maintenance doesn't bring in the dollars for the Glazers.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,320 ✭✭✭v3ttel


    Rossi IRL wrote: »
    Make or break game for Chong and Gomes if the play..... Both were rumored to be leaving at end of contracts. Not sure if they have signed since them rumors.

    Chong has shown nothing to indicate he is ready for first team football at United. He would need to show something pretty soon if he was to warrant a new contract.

    Gomes, Garner have shown glimpses at various points - with limited chances. Greenwood & Williams have both done incredibly well.

    I'm all for youth and bringing through young players, but I'm worried (among the 500 other concerns that people would have), that we seem to be thinking every player that comes through the academy and has any game time with the first team is good enough to warrant a fairly regular starting spot - eg: Andreas Periera


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 502 ✭✭✭elchupanebrey


    There may be plans to eventually modernise Old Trafford according to The Telegraph.....well it's going to be looked into.

    Also looking into updating Carrington and The Cliff. Probably a round about way of saying they'll throw up another shed at Carrington and sell The Cliff off


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,067 ✭✭✭✭bucketybuck


    v3ttel wrote: »
    I'm all for youth and bringing through young players, but I'm worried (among the 500 other concerns that people would have), that we seem to be thinking every player that comes through the academy and has any game time with the first team is good enough to warrant a fairly regular starting spot - eg: Andreas Periera

    Its a serious problem as far as I am concerned.

    These happy clappy ideas about bringing through the "kids" relies upon ignoring the simple fact that 90% of these kids fail to make the grade, and that putting your faith in them will do nothing but leave you with a squad that isn't good enough.

    Macheda, Wellbeck, Januzaj, Cleverley, Borthwick Jackson, McNair, Fosu-Mensah, Ravel Morrison, there is a list a mile long of the next big thing at United who ultimately failed to make the grade. Same as at any club. Yet here we have a manager who sold Woodward a pup about building a team around the latest batch of maybes.

    Its horribly frustrating, because here we are dropping into the bottom half of the table because most of those kids were neither ready nor able. And who could have seen that coming, right?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,436 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez


    kippy wrote: »
    Ultimately what is wrong with relegation, if as you think that's a possible outcome. Aren't fans here complaining about the owners, directors etc etc, one way of resetting.

    Van Gaal and Mourinho had a a tonne of past experience/nous and whatever BS you want to assign them, yet where did that all end?

    As for players signing for United,how many big name turkeys have signed for crazy money and crazy wages over the past 7 years.

    Christ ye need to listen to yerselves for a while in here.

    https://twitter.com/utdexcellence/status/1199073570812551170?s=21


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,475 ✭✭✭Adamcp898


    Its a serious problem as far as I am concerned.

    These happy clappy ideas about bringing through the "kids" relies upon ignoring the simple fact that 90% of these kids fail to make the grade, and that putting your faith in them will do nothing but leave you with a squad that isn't good enough.

    Macheda, Wellbeck, Januzaj, Cleverley, Borthwick Jackson, McNair, Fosu-Mensah, Ravel Morrison, there is a list a mile long of the next big thing at United who ultimately failed to make the grade. Same as at any club. Yet here we have a manager who sold Woodward a pup about building a team around the latest batch of maybes.

    Its horribly frustrating, because here we are dropping into the bottom half of the table because most of those kids were neither ready nor able. And who could have seen that coming, right?

    I agree with what you're saying except for the part I've highlighted. You're giving Ole a little too much credit there imo. He's very much a useful idiot as far as EW is concerned, peddling the auld youth players & The United Way mantra without questioning it while Ed gets to concentrate on making money.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,982 ✭✭✭MeMen2_MoRi_



    Cup games give an improvement to that, at the same time some of the worse performances have come in the cup games.

    The manager ain't right for United
    Players aren't right for United
    The executive vice-chairman is not right for United
    The owners are not right for United


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,306 ✭✭✭✭Drumpot



    At this stage I’m resigned to the headless chicken approach to United so I’m interested to see where this Ole “sh*t at a wall” approach ends up. I’m also interested to see how bad things can get before anything is done and what “anything being done” looks like.

    What’s also interesting is that some might harbour a hope that when Pogba returns things will improve. That might be the case but he’s indicated that he’s gone in the next 18 months , so how can he be not part of the “deadwood” that doesn’t want to be at the club? He is a problem because a player that wants out will disrupt the squad harmony and that seems to be the Straw that some are clutching to with regards to Ole’s supposed management competency.

    You really can’t predict how far down standards will go when it comes to united, they really do excel at bullsh*t and they’ve groomed fans fantastically. Woodward knew exactly what he was doing by hiring Ole when 40% of the fanbase have lapped up the strategy when all common sense and rational assessment would point to it being a terrible idea. Logic points to it being a desperate shot in the dark, maybe that’s why Woodward keeps his job cause it’s a nice cost cutting cost effective rebuild and an ambiguous long term strategy.

    I can get on board with a manager who can fall back on his CV or there is some sort of evidence to suggest they have what it takes to help navigate United back to the top. But I can’t convince myself that Ole is that person without telling myself a lie and/or converting to the “he’s a legend” defence that’s got no rational substance to provide any comfort. If Ole somehow works out it’s a miracle because everything points to him being another bad decision by the same peoples who have been making awful decisions that have cost us dearly for the last 7 seasons.

    I mean Think about it, Ole was hired as an interim coach while the club sorted itself out. Nobody thought he had a chance for the job full time and it was only a remarkable run of wins that convinced the club that he deserved a shot. Who did he convince? What footballing person at the club was in a position to determine that a manager who would never of gotten such a high profile job, was gonna my to be able to be part of a new era of how The club is run? Was Ole given The job mostly based off that run that is now clearing a manager bounce that most managers get at most clubs?! There’s a strong chance this was a huge factor in him getting the job and now we know it was a blip, what does that say for how the club acts when it gets things wrong? Just Double on a bad decision and hope it works out seems to be the solution.

    Who in the club had the footballing knowledge to make a call that such an unproven manager has the potential to take on such a monumental job? So Woodward and the glazers can now scout managers with untapped potential? That’s what 40% of the United fanbase have convinced themselves. The club proved last summer that top 4 and champions league qualification is the level of their ambition. Ole is a statement that if the owners don’t have the competency to do this, a cheaper approach can compensate for not achieving these goals. Ole represents this approach.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,436 ✭✭✭✭Father Hernandez




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,857 ✭✭✭Whatsisname


    Squad for Astana game.

    Lee Grant, Matej Kovar, Max Taylor, Luke Shaw, Axel Tuanzebe, Dylan Levitt, Teden Mengi, DiShon Bernard, Largie Ramazani, Ethan Laird, Ethan Galbraith, Arnau Puigmal, D'Mani Bughail-Mellor, James Garner, Jesse Lingard, Tahith Chong, Angel Gomes, Mason Greenwood.

    Nice to see a youngster like Lingard get a chance. :P


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Squad for Astana game.

    Lee Grant, Matej Kovar, Max Taylor, Luke Shaw, Axel Tuanzebe, Dylan Levitt, Teden Mengi, DiShon Bernard, Largie Ramazani, Ethan Laird, Ethan Galbraith, Arnau Puigmal, D'Mani Bughail-Mellor, James Garner, Jesse Lingard, Tahith Chong, Angel Gomes, Mason Greenwood.

    Nice to see a youngster like Lingard get a chance. :P

    Must be the first time ever we have sent such a young team to play a game?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 48,574 ✭✭✭✭Mitch Connor


    Not really a fan of that squad. Too young.

    I prefer to see a mixture of youth and experience as I think it is fairer to the younger players. What you want to see is how Gomes interacts with Rashford or Martial in the first team, not how he links with Chong. How Garner would do beside Fred, not Galbraith. We will learn little from this game than we would watching an U23 or U18 game.


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 42,981 Mod ✭✭✭✭Lord TSC


    Not really a fan of that squad. Too young.

    I prefer to see a mixture of youth and experience as I think it is fairer to the younger players. What you want to see is how Gomes interacts with Rashford or Martial in the first team, not how he links with Chong. How Garner would do beside Fred, not Galbraith. We will learn little from this game than we would watching an U23 or U18 game.

    While I agree in theory, the fact is it's not a game we need to win, and given the pressure Ole is under, i can understand giving the "important" players a rest.

    And we really don't have anything between those "important" players and the kids, that you'd fill that experience gap with so....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,273 ✭✭✭duffman13


    Lord TSC wrote: »
    While I agree in theory, the fact is it's not a game we need to win, and given the pressure Ole is under, i can understand giving the "important" players a rest.

    And we really don't have anything between those "important" players and the kids, that you'd fill that experience gap with so....

    Jones (I know), Young, Mata, Rojo and Romero are all players I think are fit who haven't had much game time, waste not bringing them because none of them will start the next match


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,383 ✭✭✭S.M.B.


    The fact it's halfway across eurasia is reason enough to send a squad with such a young age profile. I'm sure a more balanced squad would have been picked if we were off to Scotland. Surprised Lingard is going tbh.


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