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RBO filing

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  • 18-11-2019 9:26pm
    #1
    duffysfarm
    Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭


    how is everyone getting on with the RBO filings?
    ridiculous having a filing deadline for this a week after the Income tax deadline and then there is the vat return deadline this week also.
    site seems to be down for most of the day today and while i can log in now this evening i cant file anything. not getting any error message just get as far as select company and nothing happens after this.


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    #2
    Stratvs
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Stratvs


    Done and dusted thankfully. Had a look Friday just to make sure no inbox items that were missed and it took a few goes to log in. Looks like they caught a dose of the ROS virus.


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    #3
    GrumpyMe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    Website is one big failure today - unusable!


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    #4
    hjr
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭hjr


    I've managed to file two returns by using Chrome Incognito rather than normal chrome, which seems to make a difference.


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    #5
    duffysfarm
    Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    some joke at this stage. I wonder what are the relevant institutes saying about this if anything?


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    #6
    eusap
    Registered Users Posts: 659 ✭✭✭eusap


    The site takes an age to react, press a button, go make tea, press another button, go for biscuit, come back and repeat. Took 20 mins to register two entries


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    #7
    hjr
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭hjr


    eusap wrote: »
    The site takes an age to react, press a button, go make tea, press another button, go for biscuit, come back and repeat. Took 20 mins to register two entries

    Or more accurately to submit two entries. It seems to be currently taking 24 hours to either register/reject submissions. That's bad at the moment, but what'll happen on Friday when it's deadline day and you don't have 24 hours to make corrections!?


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    #8
    thefizz
    Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭thefizz


    Does anyone know the penalties for non compliance?


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    hjr
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭hjr


    This is the position on penalty according to RBO. I'm not sure if it's a late fee, or just a penalty if convicted?

    Penalties for failure to comply with this regulation

    Particular attention must be paid to the consequences of non-compliance as the fines on conviction are severe. This applies to all Relevant Entities regardless of size, activity or level of trading.

    A relevant entity that fails to comply with the provisions of the Regulations commits an offence and shall be liable-

    a) On summary conviction, to a class A fine (not exceeding €5,000), or

    b) On conviction or indictment, to a fine not exceeding €500,000


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    #10
    thefizz
    Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭thefizz


    My problem is I have a company which hasn't traded in a few years and I will be closing it down in the coming weeks. My accountant is looking for almost €400 to do the RBO filing for me which is such a waste considering the company will be closed soon.


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    #11
    hjr
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭hjr


    God €400 to complete an RBO form seems off the wall, unless there's something awful complicated about the company and people involved.


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    #12
    thefizz
    Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭thefizz


    hjr wrote: »
    God €400 to complete an RBO form seems off the wall, unless there's something awful complicated about the company and people involved.

    No there should be nothing complicated about the company at all.


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    Stratvs
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Stratvs


    thefizz wrote: »
    No there should be nothing complicated about the company at all.

    Several of the company formation houses sent out emails to say they'd do the RBO filing for around €150-200+VAT.


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    Immy
    Registered Users Posts: 260 ✭✭Immy


    thefizz wrote: »
    My problem is I have a company which hasn't traded in a few years and I will be closing it down in the coming weeks. My accountant is looking for almost €400 to do the RBO filing for me which is such a waste considering the company will be closed soon.

    Just registered on site and do it yourself. It’s very straight forward. Simply


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    GrumpyMe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    thefizz wrote: »
    My problem is I have a company which hasn't traded in a few years and I will be closing it down in the coming weeks. My accountant is looking for almost €400 to do the RBO filing for me which is such a waste considering the company will be closed soon.


    If it was to take him as long as it took me I could understand why, Me thinks it was FO pricing and I can understand that too!


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    wally1990
    Registered Users Posts: 1,222 ✭✭✭wally1990


    hjr wrote: »
    God €400 to complete an RBO form seems off the wall, unless there's something awful complicated about the company and people involved.

    Ouch

    We decided on this occasion that we won't be charging for the filling of RBO for our clients

    Company decision on this one given the time of year and us charging for tax returns etc plus Christmas coming up so we said we won't not charge for this work


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    paulpd
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭paulpd


    thefizz wrote: »
    No there should be nothing complicated about the company at all.

    We re charging 145 for each. Pretty good uptake on it.


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    #18
    GrumpyMe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    Just out of curiosity checked the site now, 04:30. No lag, instantaneous response. So the delay issue would appear to be lack of resources on their end. :-(


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    #19
    duffysfarm
    Registered Users Posts: 847 ✭✭✭duffysfarm


    No private sector employee should have to work at that time of the night becase of what is basically a public sector shambles. If it was the other way round there would be strikes and calls to joe duffy....
    GrumpyMe wrote: »
    Just out of curiosity checked the site now, 04:30. No lag, instantaneous response. So the delay issue would appear to be lack of resources on their end. :-(


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    hjr
    Registered Users Posts: 565 ✭✭✭hjr


    paulpd wrote: »
    We re charging 145 for each. Pretty good uptake on it.

    Yep, I would have thought anything around €99+vat was reasonable, given importance of form and time of year. €400 is shocking.


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    #21
    thefizz
    Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭thefizz


    I'm going to have go myself, what information do I need to have ready to complete the process?


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    Stratvs
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Stratvs


    thefizz wrote: »
    I'm going to have go myself, what information do I need to have ready to complete the process?

    See 3.2 here

    https://rbo.gov.ie/faqs.html


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    #23
    thefizz
    Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭thefizz


    Stratvs wrote: »
    See 3.2 here

    https://rbo.gov.ie/faqs.html

    Thanks, what is the "Date of entry as beneficial owner"? Is that when I became a director of company?


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    #24
    Stratvs
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Stratvs


    thefizz wrote: »
    Thanks, what is the "Date of entry as beneficial owner"? Is that when I became a director of company?

    The RBO relates to Beneficial OWNERS. A director may or may not be an owner although in a lot of small companies the owners are also the directors and were appointed at the same time. So it's date of entry as shareholders you're looking at ( See 4.etc in the FAQ page) not directors.


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    #25
    thefizz
    Registered Users Posts: 580 ✭✭✭thefizz


    Stratvs wrote: »
    The RBO relates to Beneficial OWNERS. A director may or may not be an owner although in a lot of small companies the owners are also the directors and were appointed at the same time. So it's date of entry as shareholders you're looking at ( See 4.etc in the FAQ page) not directors.

    Great thanks, now if the site was working I could get this done.


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    #26
    GrumpyMe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    Try doing it out of office hours - could have saved me hours!


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    #27
    silent_spark
    Registered Users Posts: 461 ✭✭silent_spark


    Unless there’s something really complicated going on, there’s no need to pay anyone to do this - you just need to enter the details and submit.

    The system was open months ago.

    Edit: Sorry, not very helpful to anyone trying to wrangle an oversubscribed system on the deadline date!


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    #28
    J.Ryan
    Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭J.Ryan


    Just went to log in to do the last 3 and am getting this message on the page

    Not Found
    HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.


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    #29
    capefear
    Registered Users Posts: 772 ✭✭✭capefear


    J.Ryan wrote: »
    Just went to log in to do the last 3 and am getting this message on the page

    Not Found
    HTTP Error 404. The requested resource is not found.

    its been like that for the last hour:mad:


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    #30
    GrumpyMe
    Registered Users Posts: 1,195 ✭✭✭GrumpyMe


    silent_spark wrote: »
    ...to anyone trying to wrangle an oversubscribed system on the deadline date!
    You've 4 hours left!


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    #31
    J.Ryan
    Registered Users Posts: 474 ✭✭J.Ryan


    capefear wrote: »
    its been like that for the last hour:mad:

    I've sent them a message on the contact us link, informing them that its down and that I consider it a system error on their end and therefore not my clients fault that they cannot comply, as they did not set a time for filing, just a date.

    Do the same



    Just to add, ROS is down for scheduled maintenance tomorrow, regardless of the fact that it is the due date for VAT 3's and PAYE payments!


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