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Dee Forbes banging the RTE TV licence drum again 60m uncollected fee *poll not working - pl ignore*

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,466 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Shefwedfan wrote: »
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    Nationwide is popular program and probably high on viewers in Ireland. This type of programs should not be laughed at. This is what RTE should be doing. Meeting the requirements of a large section of the population in Ireland....

    I would often have watched Nationwide, and I ain't no farmer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,466 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Well, their political bias was never more apparent than how they've gone after Donald Trump for the most baseless allegation.

    Tonight Claire Byrne's show had a segment about workplace romances.

    It was seriously cringefest - felt like it was justifying CB's own affairs with her married bosses.

    To be fair to Claire Byrne Live, it started out trying to tackle serious topics like Prime Time, but it has slipped into superfluous, mostly light, subject matter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I would often have watched Nationwide, and I ain't no farmer.

    Nationwide is kinda leave the brain at the door entertainment, you aren't gonna learn anything (except about Mary who's been running her shop selling scarves she knits herself for the past 40 years) but still a kinda enjoyable watch


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,466 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Nationwide is kinda leave the brain at the door entertainment, you aren't gonna learn anything (except about Mary who's been running her shop selling scarves she knits herself for the past 40 years) but still a kinda enjoyable watch

    Sweet Jesus, is that the kind of stuff I'm into now!

    I'm getting old.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    NIMAN wrote: »
    I would often have watched Nationwide, and I ain't no farmer.
    fritzelly wrote: »
    Nationwide is kinda leave the brain at the door entertainment, you aren't gonna learn anything (except about Mary who's been running her shop selling scarves she knits herself for the past 40 years) but still a kinda enjoyable watch

    I generally have it on in the background when I'm doing the dishes. You get allsorts from new inventions to arty things, people trying to improve their village, unusual businesses starting up. etc. My mother often texts me from home to say something related to home will be on. Great service. That's what Nationwide is all about Never an issue with it till they did a full show on Francis Brennan's hotel in Kerry. It was an out and out advertorial.

    Now that Blannidge has joined the team, I'm out.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Double whammy on this
    https://www.irishmirror.ie/tv/ray-darcy-audience-shocked-joke-20860544

    Nepotism and crap host to be asking the question


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Sweet Jesus, is that the kind of stuff I'm into now!

    I'm getting old.

    Its interesting enough, maybe not for young folk, but serves more a PBS service than most stuff on rte


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    NIMAN wrote: »
    To be fair to Claire Byrne Live, it started out trying to tackle serious topics like Prime Time, but it has slipped into superfluous, mostly light, subject matter.

    Her name's on the title-the buck stops with her. That might sound cruel-but that's generally the way the cookie crumbles.

    Nowadays, Claire's show has become the TV equivalent of the Daily Mail mixed with Huffington Post-either scaremongering, politicized w*nkery, or recycled crap that other shows have tackled better.
    Case in point-I believe last year,, or the year before she had a segment about Tattoos with Brenda Power. Brought on this tattoo artist and everything.

    Months before that, another show discussed the same issue. With the same Tattoo artist-like, the exact same person.

    According to the former tweets of RTE Secret PRoducer, or whoever he was, when the show was good, it was because of the behind the scenes producer. Due to a load of screwups, that producer left and went to TV3 (Now VM1).
    Then Claire Byrne's show got worse.

    I have a creepy feeling she's being lined up as the next Late Late Show host...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 36,466 ✭✭✭✭NIMAN


    Her name's on the title-the buck stops with her. That might sound cruel-but that's generally the way the cookie crumbles.

    Nowadays, Claire's show has become the TV equivalent of the Daily Mail mixed with Huffington Post-either scaremongering, politicized w*nkery, or recycled crap that other shows have tackled better.
    Case in point-I believe last year,, or the year before she had a segment about Tattoos with Brenda Power. Brought on this tattoo artist and everything.

    Months before that, another show discussed the same issue. With the same Tattoo artist-like, the exact same person.

    According to the former tweets of RTE Secret PRoducer, or whoever he was, when the show was good, it was because of the behind the scenes producer. Due to a load of screwups, that producer left and went to TV3 (Now VM1).
    Then Claire Byrne's show got worse.

    I have a creepy feeling she's being lined up as the next Late Late Show host...

    Well they can't have been that good, cos VM1 is cr@p.

    As for the LLS, is there a real chance Tubs is packing it all in soon? I have no doubt the next host will be female, would put the house on it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    NIMAN wrote: »
    Well they can't have been that good, cos VM1 is cr@p.

    As for the LLS, is there a real chance Tubs is packing it all in soon? I have no doubt the next host will be female, would put the house on it.

    The producer went to the news division in TV3. Not to producing the entire station.
    VM1 is genuinely a lot better at producing the news, in comparison to RTE.
    The production values on RTE have dropped significantly-more obsessed with the set, less so with the quality.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    Well, their political bias was never more apparent than how they've gone after Donald Trump for the most baseless allegation.

    What baseless allegation? :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Boggles wrote: »
    What baseless allegation? :confused:

    They reported as fact a claim by Buzzfeed that Russia had been implicated in helping Donnie win in the Mueller report..

    By the time RTE reported it, the claim had been completely disproven, a baseless allegation because the Mueller report hadn't even been finished.
    Robert Mueller even stated that 'the claims were not to be found in his report, even if it wasn't finished'.

    By the time the Mueller report was finished, there was zero evidence to back up the claim. (The Mueller report was finished about a week later).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    They reported as fact a claim by Buzzfeed that Russia had been implicated in helping Donnie win in the Mueller report..

    By the time RTE reported it, the claim had been completely disproven, a baseless allegation because the Mueller report hadn't even been finished.
    Robert Mueller even stated that 'the claims were not to be found in his report, even if it wasn't finished'.

    By the time the Mueller report was finished, there was zero evidence to back up the claim. (The Mueller report was finished about a week later).

    :confused:
    The Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election in sweeping and systematic fashion

    - The Mueller Report.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 86,683 ✭✭✭✭Overheal


    They reported as fact a claim by Buzzfeed that Russia had been implicated in helping Donnie win in the Mueller report..

    By the time RTE reported it, the claim had been completely disproven, a baseless allegation because the Mueller report hadn't even been finished.
    Robert Mueller even stated that 'the claims were not to be found in his report, even if it wasn't finished'.

    By the time the Mueller report was finished, there was zero evidence to back up the claim. (The Mueller report was finished about a week later).

    Source for this alleged false reporting?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 16,012 ✭✭✭✭James Brown


    Jaysus...
    The Russians did interfere. The U.S. intelligent services say so. The only debate is how much was at the behest of Trump.
    RTE reporting this is fine and dandy.
    I think people are confusing statements and denials from the White House with facts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia


    I think so too. I know The Journal has had to close down parts of the site fairly recently-DailyEdge, for one.

    And other parts-like posting comments, have been removed entirely. Too much work for moderators-mainly because a lot of the comments were of the 'what the hell is that sh*t' kinda deal.

    So I imagine any promotion of RTE folks will be good for them-mainly because it looks like its paid promotion.

    Clear as day paid but not marked so which would fall under ASAI rules?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,028 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    Ti's gas there lookin at George Lee (the man who went into politics to save us all) on the news standing in a cow shed telling us all about climate change an how we're all doomed. Ya had your chance to do something Amachin but ya ran back to mammys protective apron


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    FG used George cos he'd get elected on facial recognition. Once there he had 2 functions. Press Tá or press Níll. They're trying the same stunt now with Marian Harkin up here. All the auld ones and auld lads love her. FG get a vote and she gets salary and pension.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    Here's me thinking being a politician was too much hard work for George when you get paid more for 5 mins on TV 5 days a week (if that)
    The crap about he thought he could make a difference and learnt his voice was not heard after reporting about politics for years was laughable


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,828 ✭✭✭RabbleRouser2k


    Overheal wrote: »
    Source for this alleged false reporting?

    https://www.thejournal.ie/mueller-disputes-buzzfeed-article-4448739-Jan2019/

    Buzzfeed reported that Donald Trump instructed the interference.

    There was no evidence to say as such. RTE went and reported this as fact-it was far from it.

    Whether there was or wasn't Russian interference is one thing, but claiming it was the instruction of Trump is something else.

    And I hate Trump-I'm not a fan.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 42,959 ✭✭✭✭Boggles


    https://www.thejournal.ie/mueller-disputes-buzzfeed-article-4448739-Jan2019/

    Buzzfeed reported that Donald Trump instructed the interference.

    There was no evidence to say as such. RTE went and reported this as fact-it was far from it.

    Whether there was or wasn't Russian interference is one thing, but claiming it was the instruction of Trump is something else.

    And I hate Trump-I'm not a fan.

    That's not what the buzzfeed article claimed, It claimed that Trump told Cohen to lie about the timing of a property deal.

    Mueller said Trump knew about the lies but couldn't establish clear evidence that it was at the direction of Trump.

    Cohen said it was to Congress and the FBI.

    Buzzfeed updated it's article after the release of the report.

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/bensmith/how-we-characterized-michael-cohens-testimony

    So your claim that it was a "baseless allegation" or the "the most baseless allegation" is demonstrable false.

    Only a simpleton would believe Trump wasn't fully aware of what was going on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,028 ✭✭✭ShamNNspace


    fritzelly wrote: »
    Here's me thinking being a politician was too much hard work for George when you get paid more for 5 mins on TV 5 days a week (if that)
    The crap about he thought he could make a difference and learnt his voice was not heard after reporting about politics for years was laughable
    It does show the kind of world they inhabit though. When he found himself in an environment where he had to work to be heard he immediately threw in the towel and ran back to where he knew he would be safe. I think he expected to walk straight into a ministry or something


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,662 ✭✭✭jippo nolan


    Ti's gas there lookin at George Lee (the man who went into politics to save us all) on the news standing in a cow shed telling us all about climate change an how we're all doomed. Ya had your chance to do something Amachin but ya ran back to mammys protective apron

    And the bang of cow****e off him!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,420 ✭✭✭✭sligojoek


    sligojoek wrote: »
    FG used George cos he'd get elected on facial recognition. Once there he had 2 functions. Press Tá or press Níll. They're trying the same stunt now with Marian Harkin up here. All the auld ones and auld lads love her. FG get a vote and she gets salary and pension.

    Just to correct the record.

    Marian Harkin announced this evening that she won't be running for FG.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,641 ✭✭✭✭Elmo


    TheBlock wrote: »
    In any Given year RTÉ develop multiple Dramas and Comedies to various scritp stages. They then have to decide if any are good enough to comission. They ofetn aren't and are better dropped than produced as there would be uproar if some of the ****e got on screen.

    Head of Drama left in 2018 and replacement is only up and running with their own slate of developments.

    https://www.c21media.net/rte-and-ame-take-two-for-finding-joy/ Brilliant woo-who not that the new head of Drama was employeed by Acorn at one point, nothing wrong with this at all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,466 ✭✭✭jimmynokia




  • Closed Accounts Posts: 15,752 ✭✭✭✭Shefwedfan


    jimmynokia wrote: »

    As I mentioned on one of the thread, people are let go and following year the cost goes up, that’s because they hire all the same people back but via contractor companies so end up paying more

    They are a shower of idiots


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 15,363 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Sure why would she go anywhere? She's getting 250k+ a year to run a company into the ground with no requirement for oversight or checks and balances. And the 2 photos in that article are like an after and a before for photoshop.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,583 ✭✭✭✭fritzelly


    retalivity wrote: »
    And the 2 photos in that article are like an after and a before for photoshop.

    Hahaha never noticed that


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 840 ✭✭✭The Late Late Show


    The salaries of the presenters and sending off countless people to events like the Eurovision have been touted many times as wastes of money in RTE. What is less mentioned are a lot of the crappy programmes made. These when considered alone are cheap to make and give RTE fodder they can repeat over and over. Taken as a whole, they are very expensive. The likes of Pulling With My Parents, Wingman, Room To Improve and Fertility Shock are some recent examples. There have been countless one off shows with the likes of Francis Brennan, Keith Barry, Dermot Bannon, etc. too and I am sure NONE of these presenters come cheap either. When taken together, all these add up and add up to a lot of money wasted.

    Money was also wasted on expensive but ultimately poor dramas like Rebellion and Taken Down. When compared to what others were making during the same time such as Peaky Blinders, The Handmaid's Tale, Better Call Saul. Killing Eve and Game of Thrones, these simply were not up to scratch. RTE's poor dramas have been put on DVD but how many have purchased their copies of Rebellion, Taken Down or Striking Out I wonder? All this waste of money is why RTE are where they are.


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