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Internet Troll gets three years

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  • #242
    wiggle16
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    Deleted User wrote: »
    He left his house twice in 17 years? Jesus. A normal person may deserve prison but someone that reclusive is in need of something more helpful.
    I mean, all we really want is for him to stop abusing people online. There's better ways than three years in prison. A week would do it.
    Bizarre story.

    He breached his bail conditions because he was unwilling to stop this behaviour even when caught.

    Look at it another way - he left his house twice in 17 years but still managed to stalk and harass six women for several years. It's also safe to assume these weren't the only women who were exposed to him and that others fell foul of his "attentions" during that time.

    His reclusivity is not that relevant - no more relevant than if he were diabetic. A person with agoraphobia (and it sounds like this is what he had) can still be rational and tell the difference between right and wrong. Learning that he never left his house elicits sympathy in us, but it's misplaced imo.


  • #243
    Screw Attack
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 77 ✭✭Screw Attack


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Here is a guy who clearly has mental health issues - he even said he was suicidal during the abuse - whose threats were exclusively made online gets 3 years :

    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/his-campaign-of-harassment-against-us-went-on-for-years-female-writers-and-journalists-speak-out-after-internet-troll-jailed-for-three-years-38692690.html

    Yet people with multiple violent assaults get suspended sentences? Is the lesson here that if he actually physically assaulted his victims he would have gotten a lesser sentence?

    This is not some misguided defence of free speech, I totally agree he should have faced sanction, preferably in a mental health unit, but THREE YEARS is a murder level sentence.

    This is more laughable and pitiful defence of excusing creeps just because they're mental midgets who lack social skills. You're a moron, soupandpoitin, only an idiot would believe the stupid excuses you're making.


  • #244
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    Some other sentences by the same judge.

    A suspended sentence for pushing a woman into traffic

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/a-never-ending-nightmare-woman-22-abused-by-cousin-from-age-of-four-tells-court-monster-ruined-her-life-36822232.html

    Five months for sexually assaulting a sleeping woman

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/man-jailed-for-sexually-assaulting-woman-asleep-on-dublin-street-36874756.html

    Six months for a father who sexually abused his five year old daughter

    https://www.rte.ie/news/2015/0316/687601-roscommon-abuse/

    Eighteen months for a 17 year old who had sex with a 14 year old.

    https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/courts/teenage-boy-who-believed-consent-was-consent-jailed-for-sex-with-girl-14-38696231.html

    How he comes up with these sentences is beyond me. Apparently Attempted murder deserves no jail time. Sexual assault deserves all of five months. Raping your infant daughter for two years deserves six months in jail. A teenage boy having sex with a teenage girl three years younger than him deserves a year and a half in jail because it's so much worse than the other crimes.


  • #245
    Foxy wolf
    Closed Accounts Posts: 17 ✭Foxy wolf


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Are the victims of Brendan Doolin also telling lies?

    Of course those change agents are in in the pantomime


  • #246
    wiggle16
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    Foxy wolf wrote: »
    Of course those change agents are in in the pantomime

    Do you come here often?


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  • #247
    splinter65
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Foxy wolf wrote: »
    Of course those change agents are in in the pantomime

    And the Gardaí and the judge? All involved in this conspiracy?
    Do you believe that there’s no such thing as stalking at all, or do you just believe that this whole case was made up?
    I’m genuinely interested because I’ve been stalked to a minor degree myself.


  • #248
    expectationlost
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,599 ✭✭✭✭expectationlost


    so how long was it from first report to gardai to prosecution to trial?


  • #249
    facehugger99
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,908 ✭✭✭facehugger99


    Irish Guitarist wrote: »

    How he comes up with these sentences is beyond me.

    He probably sits through the whole trial as opposed to sentencing based on a newspaper headline.


  • #250
    tigger123
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,605 ✭✭✭tigger123


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    He probably sits through the whole trial as opposed to sentencing based on a newspaper headline.

    Are you sure he doesn't just get a general flavour of what happened from Boards and Facebook? That's like, way simpler.


  • #251
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    A suspended sentence, if that.

    Unless there's some sort of threat essentially who cares, especially for a public person. Messaging a private person could be quite different.

    I feel like it's a case of judges not understanding internet culture.


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  • #252
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    Foxy wolf wrote: »
    Of course those change agents are in in the pantomime

    His Da went all in on the acting too. Commitment.
    https://rip.ie/death-notice/brendan-doolin-crumlin-dublin/350171


  • #253
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    alastair wrote: »
    His Da went all in on the acting too. Commitment.
    https://rip.ie/death-notice/brendan-doolin-crumlin-dublin/350171

    Can you please not reply to an obvious troll who literally just made their account? :confused:

    You have 17,000+ posts since 2001, surely you know better by now.


  • #254
    alastair
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,309 ✭✭✭✭alastair


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Can you please not reply to an obvious troll who literally just made their account? :confused:

    You have 17,000+ posts since 2001, surely you know better by now.

    Thanks for the advice. I’ll give it the consideration it’s due.


  • #255
    EmmetSpiceland
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,935 ✭✭✭✭EmmetSpiceland


    splinter65 wrote: »
    Are the victims of Brendan Doolin also telling lies?

    No, they don’t exist either.

    “It matters not what someone is born, but what they grow to be” - A. Dumbledore

    “It is not blood that makes you Irish but a willingness to be part of the Irish nation” - Thomas Davis



  • #256
    Chris_Heilong
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,972 ✭✭✭Chris_Heilong


    Do These journalist not have a block function on their email accounts? Also what were his grievances?


  • #257
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    Chris_Heilong wrote: »
    Do These journalist not have a block function on their email accounts? Also what were his grievances?

    The ‘block’ question has been answered dozens of times in this thread already.

    They did, but he set up dozens of accounts to get around them.

    Seriously will people read the reports instead of asking the same questions hours apart.


  • #258
    Irish Guitarist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 5,736 ✭✭✭Irish Guitarist


    facehugger99 wrote: »
    He probably sits through the whole trial as opposed to sentencing based on a newspaper headline.


    I read more than the headlines. Don't judge me by your lazy standards.


  • #259
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    Faugheen wrote: »
    The ‘block’ question has been answered dozens of times in this thread already.

    They did, but he set up dozens of accounts to get around them.

    Seriously will people read the reports instead of asking the same questions hours apart.

    It would help if the OP's link wasn't behind a paywall. I had already read the entire article on the Irish Times website.

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/crime-and-law/courts/circuit-court/man-who-harassed-six-female-writers-and-journalists-online-is-jailed-1.4083166

    Alarm bells should start going when the vast majority of the article is from third party accounts of how it affected other people. The judge preaching about how the internet can be used for good but also for evil. The ladies in question in a big twist about how violated they felt taking up most of the article - how about saying what he actually did instead of how it made them feel?! And then the concluding pronouncement of him as "an internet troll" - and that was just by his own lawyer! This is so obviously a show and feeding to the lions.

    Most of the things he said is stuff you'd see on boards.ie any day of the week. Calling them talentless criminal really?

    His only criminal acts really involve some suggestions on where they live and saying something like he'll probably kill himself. But three years? THREE YEARS behind bars because of that? Stalking yet he left the house twice in 17 years... good joke.

    He obviously has some clear psychological problems and he clearly isn't the sharpest tool. How in the world anyone would think a three year custodial sentence is a good idea here is beyond me. It's a vile witchburning.


  • #260
    wiggle16
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Alarm bells should start going when the vast majority of the article is from third party accounts of how it affected other people. The judge preaching about how the internet can be used for good but also for evil. The ladies in question in a big twist about how violated they felt taking up most of the article - how about saying what he actually did instead of how it made them feel?! And then the concluding pronouncement of him as "an internet troll" - and that was just by his own lawyer! This is so obviously a show and feeding to the lions.

    Most of the things he said is stuff you'd see on boards.ie any day of the week. Calling them talentless criminal really?

    His only criminal acts really involve some suggestions on where they live and saying something like he'll probably kill himself. But three years? THREE YEARS behind bars because of that? Stalking yet he left the house twice in 17 years... good joke.

    He obviously has some clear psychological problems and he clearly isn't the sharpest tool. How in the world anyone would think a three year custodial sentence is a good idea here is beyond me. It's a vile witchburning.

    Alarm bells about what exactly? Sorry, did you miss the part where this harassment went on for six years?

    From the article you linked:

    Christine Bohan, who got more than 450 messages from Doolin, also received a 10-year-old political leaflet from him which carried a photograph of her on it. She was also sent an image of her from a dinner at her old college.

    Both of these images caused concern to Ms Bohan as she was not named in either and it worried her that the person had “scoured the internet looking for her image

    You don't think that someone would find that frightening, no? He stalked these women for six years. Unwanted contact, circumvented everything they did to block him, for six years.

    Suppose it was your wife, or sister, or daughter, and some shut-in did that to her. Would you tell her three years was too harsh?


  • #261
    Faugheen
    Site Banned Posts: 12,341 ✭✭✭✭Faugheen


    wiggle16 wrote: »
    Suppose it was your wife, or sister, or daughter, and some shut-in did that to her. Would you tell her three years was too harsh?

    Posters like him don’t have any contact with women.

    It’ll be blatantly obvious when he comes back and says ‘actually my [imaginary] wife agrees with me’.


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  • #262
    nkl12xtw5goz70
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    paleoperson wrote: »
    Alarm bells should start going when the vast majority of the article is from third party accounts of how it affected other people. The judge preaching about how the internet can be used for good but also for evil. The ladies in question in a big twist about how violated they felt taking up most of the article - how about saying what he actually did instead of how it made them feel?! And then the concluding pronouncement of him as "an internet troll" - and that was just by his own lawyer! This is so obviously a show and feeding to the lions.

    Most of the things he said is stuff you'd see on boards.ie any day of the week. Calling them talentless criminal really?

    I couldn't agree more with this. He evidently got under their skin with his pointed criticisms of their being talentless wannabes living in a Twitter thought bubble, and so they sought vengeance by representing themselves as victims of harassment.


  • #263
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    wiggle16 wrote: »
    Alarm bells about what exactly? Sorry, did you miss the part where this harassment went on for six years?

    From the article you linked:

    Christine Bohan, who got more than 450 messages from Doolin, also received a 10-year-old political leaflet from him which carried a photograph of her on it. She was also sent an image of her from a dinner at her old college.

    Both of these images caused concern to Ms Bohan as she was not named in either and it worried her that the person had “scoured the internet looking for her image

    Sure. It's more unusual than aggressive, but I will agree this was another minor criminal act that he did. That makes three, so what? There's nothing more than happened over the six years or we would know about it, they have no reason to hold back stuff he did.
    wiggle16 wrote: »
    You don't think that someone would find that frightening, no? He stalked these women for six years. Unwanted contact, circumvented everything they did to block him, for six years.

    He didn't "stalk" anyone as he never left the house. That is not stalking and it's an insult to the victims of actual stalking that you would say that. How many people out there are scared of actual dangerous people and here you're complaining about internet messages they needn't open.
    wiggle16 wrote: »
    Suppose it was your wife, or sister, or daughter, and some shut-in did that to her. Would you tell her three years was too harsh?

    Of course I would. You're acting like it was some major assault or injury he did. Without a shadow of a doubt I'd say it seems a bit much and she would likely agree. Over "some shut in"? So if he was more outgoing you would have some more sympathy for him?

    It's obvious some people have a strong killer instinct over the most minor harassments and are all about escalation, escalation, escalation, when some common sense is required.

    If you had any genuine fear or concern of this person or for safety you'd be a lot more scared of sending someone to rot for three years with all the time in the world to plan revenge when they get out.


  • #264
    riclad
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,184 ✭✭✭riclad


    IF you have someone insulting you everyday on twitter it is harassment , journalists use twitter as part of their job to keep up with the news .
    they were hardly in any danger from someone who only leaves his house
    once a year.
    It seems every famous actress in the uk has problems with twitter trolls
    especially any woman who talks about feminism or equal rights for women.


  • #265
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maddux Modern Rule wrote: »
    I couldn't agree more with this. He evidently got under their skin with his pointed criticisms of their being talentless wannabes living in a Twitter thought bubble, and so they sought vengeance by representing themselves as victims of harassment.

    You have not answered this nor has anybody, how would the woman know he was not dangerous. Individuals have been murdered by people with a very similar profile of mental health issues and issues with women and liberals. He found out where one of them lived.


  • #266
    nkl12xtw5goz70
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    wiggle16 wrote: »
    Christine Bohan, who got more than 450 messages from Doolin, also received a 10-year-old political leaflet from him which carried a photograph of her on it. She was also sent an image of her from a dinner at her old college.

    Both of these images caused concern to Ms Bohan as she was not named in either and it worried her that the person had “scoured the internet looking for her image

    It took me about 14 seconds on Google to locate an image of Ms. Bohan at her debs, which I assume was more than 10 years ago. Old images of her are not hard to find, and it's not a criminal offense to look for them.


  • #267
    nkl12xtw5goz70
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,497 ✭✭✭nkl12xtw5goz70


    mariaalice wrote: »
    He found out where one of them lived.

    Source?


  • #268
    wiggle16
    Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 3,022 Mod ✭✭✭✭wiggle16


    paleoperson wrote: »
    He didn't "stalk" anyone as he never left the house. That is not stalking and it's an insult to the victims of actual stalking that you would say that. How many people out there are scared of actual dangerous people and here you're complaining about internet messages they needn't open.

    Jesus f*cking Christ.


  • #269
    paleoperson
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,516 ✭✭✭paleoperson


    mariaalice wrote: »
    You have not answered this nor has anybody, how would the woman know he was not dangerous. Individuals have been murdered by people with a very similar profile of mental health issues and issues with women and liberals. He found out where one of them lived.

    The gardai could have explained to her the situation. This man lives with his mother and is a very strange man who does this this for fun. But give him a stern warning.

    Also there's such a thing as a restraining order, why tf wasn't a restraining order placed on him? Then he would go straight to jail to be processed if he broke it. Surely that would be the normal chain of events.


  • #270
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Maddux Modern Rule wrote: »
    Source?

    By social media, he told one of the women he knew where she lived, yes you could argue that is different than actually knowing where she lived. Again how is the woman to know if he actually knows where she lives or he is just saying he dose.


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  • #271
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 12,694 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    paleoperson wrote: »
    The gardai could have explained to her the situation. This man lives with his mother and is a very strange man who does this this for fun. But give him a stern warning.

    Also there's such a thing as a restraining order, why tf wasn't a restraining order placed on him? Then he would go straight to jail to be processed if he broke it. Surely that would be the normal chain of events.

    How would the Garda know he only dose this for fun?


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