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Is it time to say sorry to travellers and give them a few quid for past wrongs?

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    #2
    Charles Leclerc
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 98 ✭✭Charles Leclerc


    "13% of traveller children complete second level education. 1% go onto third level education."

    Improve this x5 and come back to us.


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    Fr_Dougal
    Registered Users Posts: 9,167 ✭✭✭Fr_Dougal


    0.6% of the population yet they are 22% of the prison population.

    Yeah, the State is the problem.


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    Guy:Incognito
    Registered Users Posts: 38,247 ✭✭✭✭Guy:Incognito


    Do they not get €200 a week each to cover this already?


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    Mr_Muffin
    Registered Users Posts: 917 ✭✭✭Mr_Muffin


    No.


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    JRant
    Registered Users Posts: 12,901 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    I thought they had been getting reparations for years. It's just called mickey money.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    Elemonator
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,271 ✭✭✭Elemonator


    How is it in any way racist? They aren't a different race. They are a subset of white Irish.


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    JRant
    Registered Users Posts: 12,901 ✭✭✭✭JRant


    Elemonator wrote: »
    How is it in any way racist? They aren't a different race. They are a subset of white Irish.

    Enda opened up that can of worms unfortunately.

    "Well, yeah, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man"



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    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Guy:Incognito wrote: »
    Do they not get €200 a week each to cover this already?

    actually they get it at 16 where everyone else is told they cannot get it at 18 and get off you ass and get a job!!
    By some miracle of science one of them and makes it to university, and they finish it is always something like minority studies or social science.
    Its never anything real like Engineering, Nursing, Law or Science.
    .... and when they are done ..... its back to the dole/Dochas/minding the childers.


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    blackcard
    Registered Users Posts: 3,903 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Professor Genius wrote: »
    Is it time to right the wrongs of the past and give them a helping hand ?


    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/leaders-of-travellers-groups-call-for-state-reparations-in-oireachtas-38684429.html

    Reparations can work both ways


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    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    JRant wrote: »
    I thought they had been getting reparations for years. It's just called mickey money.

    .......... and aren't they winning that war? "Spread 'em there D'julia, we need another 6 before start of next month!".


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    [Deleted User]
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    Reading through that article:

    "racism...racism...racism..." ad infinitum.

    An absurd sense of victimhood without actually addressing the elephant in the room. Namely taking responsibility for their own actions.


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    walshb
    Registered Users Posts: 55,037 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Reading through that article:

    "racism...racism...racism..." ad infinitum.

    An absurd sense of victimhood without actually addressing the elephant in the room. Namely taking responsibility for their own actions.

    Sure isn’t this d single biggest issue in society as a whole..

    Everyone blaming everyone else for the ills!!!


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    decky1
    Registered Users Posts: 975 ✭✭✭decky1


    Who comes up with these ideas? is the country not in enough dept without more payments, i know a good few traveller families,they have helped me in many ways over the years, but believe me they don't need any money [but i'm sure the'll take it if it's offered ] cos their loaded


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    Ronin247
    Registered Users Posts: 1,256 ✭✭✭Ronin247


    I actually have to confess to having watched some of that session of the Oireachtas. I found it sad that a small minority of settled people have caused such a terrible injustice to the travelling community and believe that they should be given reparations.........


    right after the vast majority of of the travelling community who commit crimes against the settled community pay us reparations, and not from the f!#@ing handfuls of social welfare they get every week either.


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    Foggy Jew
    Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Foggy Jew


    Professor Genius wrote: »
    Is it time to right the wrongs of the past and give them a helping hand ?


    https://m.independent.ie/irish-news/politics/leaders-of-travellers-groups-call-for-state-reparations-in-oireachtas-38684429.html
    Nope

    It's the bally ballyness of it that makes it all seem so bally bally.



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    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    decky1 wrote: »
    Who comes up with these ideas? is the country not in enough dept without more payments, i know a good few traveller families,they have helped me in many ways over the years, but believe me they don't need any money [but i'm sure the'll take it if it's offered ] cos their loaded

    They are great arent they? Taking away all that awful copper and nasty lead off the roof. Mind you they took our little jack russell dog for a walk and never brought him back. I wonder what became of him. They are so funny with their little eccentricities of visiting old people living on their own and relieving them off all that unsafe money in the house.


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    Foggy Jew
    Registered Users Posts: 761 ✭✭✭Foggy Jew


    Two words. Margart Cash.

    It's the bally ballyness of it that makes it all seem so bally bally.



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    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Foggy Jew wrote: »
    Two words. Margart Cash.

    Two more : Frog Ward


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    milehip
    Registered Users Posts: 733 ✭✭✭milehip


    Sure why not? Hows about a 40" TV and a piebald?


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    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Ronin247 wrote: »
    I actually have to confess to having watched some of that session of the Oireachtas. I found it sad that a small minority of settled people have caused such a terrible injustice to the travelling community and believe that they should be given reparations.........


    right after the vast majority of of the travelling community who commit crimes against the settled community pay us reparations, and not from the f!#@ing handfuls of social welfare they get every week either.

    ..... and they should get welfare taken away from them because they contribute sweet fanny adams to it


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    touts
    Registered Users Posts: 6,456 ✭✭✭touts


    If we pay them for all the bad things they THINK we did to them will they in turn pay me for the TV, cash and my late grandmother's jewelery I KNOW one of their lot stole from my house?


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    skooterblue2
    Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    I think travellers should all get a vasectomy with their christmas bonus. News just in, the HSE just hired Doctor Lorena Bobbit.


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    PinotNero
    Closed Accounts Posts: 163 ✭✭PinotNero


    Can the reparations be paid in copper :pac:


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    #25
    Ulysses Gaze
    Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    They are always the victim, it is never their fault....

    Can the victims of their crimes get reparations?

    The two will then cancel themselves out.


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    pinkyeye
    Registered Users Posts: 1,293 ✭✭✭pinkyeye


    Has anyone on here actually read the article??

    If so, what do you think of a so called "senator" using such horrible derogatory terms to refer to anyone?


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    boring accountant
    Registered Users Posts: 335 ✭✭boring accountant


    Does this mean they have to give me back my phone?


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    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,121 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    pinkyeye wrote: »
    Has anyone on here actually read the article??

    If so, what do you think of a so called "senator" using such horrible derogatory terms to refer to anyone?

    But they are travellers and their grandparents were knackers and respected for that job. The new breed though they need a new name as their neither travelling or any good at metal work.
    Someone needs to reign in the thieving it's way out of control, guards are a joke to them.


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    the_syco
    Registered Users Posts: 37,296 ✭✭✭✭the_syco


    pinkyeye wrote: »
    If so, what do you think of a so called "senator" using such horrible derogatory terms to refer to anyone?
    Should she have called them copper stealing pikies instead?

    Also, if the money was paid out, who would it be paid to? How do they prove that they live in Ireland, and aren't just over from the UK to collect the payout?


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    drunkmonkey
    Registered Users Posts: 28,121 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    They should pay victims of travellers first.


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    hedzball
    Registered Users Posts: 764 ✭✭✭hedzball


    pinkyeye wrote: »
    Has anyone on here actually read the article??

    If so, what do you think of a so called "senator" using such horrible derogatory terms to refer to anyone?

    Yeah absolutely horrendous language from someone in the public eye. There are far nicer ways to describe them.

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