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How long to plan a wedding?

  • 29-10-2019 04:48PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Hi all,

    I finally got engaged the other day :D

    Ideally we'd like to get married next year, but I'm concerned that most places will be booked out already. We definitely want to get married on a Friday or Saturday so that it's not an inconvenience to our guests, but we wouldn't mind going a little off peak (maybe September or October, before it gets too dark/cold).

    I'm wondering how realistic it will be to expect to find a decent venue for next year though? How much time is normally needed? We don't have our heart set on anywhere in particular yet, so plan to narrow it down and then enquire. But I'm worried about getting my hopes up. Not to mention availability of photographers, bands etc at "short" notice.

    Also, we're thinking we'll probably have approximately 50-80 guests in total. Could that be an additional problem though? Even at a glance, there are a lot of places that seem to require numbers of 100 or more, especially on Fridays and Saturdays. We're not into the big hotel weddings, so looking at smaller hotels/venues in or near Dublin. I feel we're in a bit of an awkward bracket though in terms of our numbers. Too big for the very small venues and too small for the typical large venues!

    Any advice appreciated :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,946 ✭✭✭✭Neyite


    If you are going down the religious route then a year or more might be needed for a priest.



    Civil ceremonies by the HSE are Monday-Friday


    Outside of that then humanists or spiritualist might be an option.


    A friend of mine that had 60 at her wedding got a restaurant to open up with an early bird menu for her reception. It normally opened at 7 so they got the place to themselves from about 3-6.30 then went across the road to a pub that had a dance area and had a DJ. It was honestly one of the nicest weddings I was at. The service from the restaurant was excellent as was the food. I suspect that it's the wrong part of the country for you though otherwise I'd recommend them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    We definitely don't want a church wedding, so it'll be a humanist or spiritualist or HSE (not planning to have it in the registry office though). Any idea if those book out well in advance? :/
    Neyite wrote: »
    A friend of mine that had 60 at her wedding got a restaurant to open up with an early bird menu for her reception. It normally opened at 7 so they got the place to themselves from about 3-6.30 then went across the road to a pub that had a dance area and had a DJ. It was honestly one of the nicest weddings I was at. The service from the restaurant was excellent as was the food. I suspect that it's the wrong part of the country for you though otherwise I'd recommend them.

    Yeah that's a nice idea alright! I'm not aware of any restaurants in Dublin City Centre that aren't already open for business by around 5pm though. I might look into restaurants anyway though. I suppose I'm just reluctant to have 3 separate venues (ceremony, food, afters). And I'd say 80 would be our max, so might be an issue for typical "afters" venues for a Fri/Sat :/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭tiredblondie


    I got married 3 weeks ago, a Saturday in October - we booked exactly 13 months prior
    Best part about it was that we got a package deal with the hotel so included was:
    Band & DJ
    Flowers
    Suits x 4
    Cake
    Photographer

    Our total number there was 85


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,442 ✭✭✭solerina


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I finally got engaged the other day :D

    Ideally we'd like to get married next year, but I'm concerned that most places will be booked out already. We definitely want to get married on a Friday or Saturday so that it's not an inconvenience to our guests, but we wouldn't mind going a little off peak (maybe September or October, before it gets too dark/cold).

    I'm wondering how realistic it will be to expect to find a decent venue for next year though? How much time is normally needed? We don't have our heart set on anywhere in particular yet, so plan to narrow it down and then enquire. But I'm worried about getting my hopes up. Not to mention availability of photographers, bands etc at "short" notice.

    Also, we're thinking we'll probably have approximately 50-80 guests in total. Could that be an additional problem though? Even at a glance, there are a lot of places that seem to require numbers of 100 or more, especially on Fridays and Saturdays. We're not into the big hotel weddings, so looking at smaller hotels/venues in or near Dublin. I feel we're in a bit of an awkward bracket though in terms of our numbers. Too big for the very small venues and too small for the typical large venues!

    Any advice appreciated :)

    You have loads of time, we got engaged and married in under 5months.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,510 ✭✭✭baby and crumble


    The only thing that we found when booking our wedding was that the humanist solemnisers booked really fast. We actually contacted some over 18 months in advance that had zero Saturday availability in the next year, if that makes sense? I've also seen some photographers etc book out a year in advance, so if you're set on anyone in particular you might need to hope for the best.

    Otherwise I'd say you can definitely find something to suit in that timeframe. I'd also look at Novemeber as an option, I know it gets dark fast but we basically had our 1st pick of everyone we wanted (photographer, videographer, cake, flowers, venue) on a Saturday with no problems at all, some at a reduced cost. If you go near the end of November like we did it's likely your venue will already have extra decorations in place for Christmas so one less thing to worry about. :)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,362 ✭✭✭✭Scarinae


    woodchuck wrote: »
    We definitely don't want a church wedding, so it'll be a humanist or spiritualist or HSE (not planning to have it in the registry office though). Any idea if those book out well in advance? :/

    I believe that there is a bit of a shortage of humanist officiants for Saturdays, especially if you want to have the ceremony outside of the Dublin area - a lot of this is because the HSE weddings are limited to Monday-Friday.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,698 ✭✭✭PhoenixParker


    We planned in just over 6 months. It really wasn't a problem. You just need to be a little flexible.

    Basically rang the registrar in November and said what have you got free on a Friday in May as that was the soonest that suited close family. Picked the best time/date combo and planned from there.

    We did ceremony + photos + very fancy lunch for immediate family only on the Friday then did a big reception (sans ceremony) for 110 on the Saturday. All in Dublin, got a great venue, didn't feel I had to compromise on anything really. We were actually able to negotiate good deals because at 6 months out vendors want to sell the date and are less likely to be able to fill it vs 12 months +


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭aquinn


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I finally got engaged the other day :D

    Ideally we'd like to get married next year, but I'm concerned that most places will be booked out already. We definitely want to get married on a Friday or Saturday so that it's not an inconvenience to our guests, but we wouldn't mind going a little off peak (maybe September or October, before it gets too dark/cold).

    I'm wondering how realistic it will be to expect to find a decent venue for next year though? How much time is normally needed? We don't have our heart set on anywhere in particular yet, so plan to narrow it down and then enquire. But I'm worried about getting my hopes up. Not to mention availability of photographers, bands etc at "short" notice.

    Also, we're thinking we'll probably have approximately 50-80 guests in total. Could that be an additional problem though? Even at a glance, there are a lot of places that seem to require numbers of 100 or more, especially on Fridays and Saturdays. We're not into the big hotel weddings, so looking at smaller hotels/venues in or near Dublin. I feel we're in a bit of an awkward bracket though in terms of our numbers. Too big for the very small venues and too small for the typical large venues!

    Any advice appreciated :)

    Congratulations to you both.

    We got engaged in Dec 2017. Our first port of call was the celebrant as we knew who wanted. She had two dates in the October but one was DCM day so we went with the Friday option.

    After that we viewed 3 venues as only saw places with availability. Paid deposit in February. We actually had two venues as had our ceremony in town.

    Got my dress in March and the shop went bust so had to find another supplier. That arrived a few months later.

    Got a photographer on a recommendation.

    Took it handy for a few months with zero fuss.

    We thought we knew what we wanted for the invites so worked with a graphic designer and it took 3 drafts.

    Picked our cake on the Monday for the Friday.

    Set up a joint email account, we found that very handy.

    Write up a list of people you intend inviting.

    Places say minimum numbers but don't let that put you off.

    We paid to have the venue for the day. Met the requirement but know another couple that didn't and still went ahead.

    Picked flowers maybe 3 weeks before.

    Oh had make-up trial in the July. Didn't get hair trial and it fell out on the day and had to head back so wouldn't recommend.

    All the very best, oh and start regularly saving as also depends on what you want to have and willing to spend.

    Enjoy. People say it is all stress but it really isn't.

    We both got personal bests in a half marathon two weeks beforehand. Keep your life as it is.

    Oh, get your Wedding licence 3 months in advance of your intended date. You then have 6 months from that date. Definitely start with a celebrant.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Thanks for all of the advice so far!

    I think ideally we'll go with a humanist ceremony, having read more about the different options. I had a look on the humanist website and I see a fair few stating on their bios that they are already booked out for 2019 :/ So I guess that could be a very limiting factor. HSE would probably be the next best thing for us, but do you actually get to pick the person doing the ceremony or do they just assign someone to you randomly?

    I'm still not clear what approach we should take for booking everything. I had thought we could come up with a short list of venues and then start making enquires, particularly around availability. Then immediately contact some humanists to see if they have any overlapping availability with the venue(s). Or would we be doing things backwards?! I'm not sure what order things are normally done! I feel like we need to have all our ducks in a row to try and book everything symtaneously? Some of the humanist bios say to contact them with details of the date and venue, so I thought I'd have to sort those out first (but only provisionally book incase there's an issue).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭tiredblondie


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Thanks for all of the advice so far!

    I think ideally we'll go with a humanist ceremony, having read more about the different options. I had a look on the humanist website and I see a fair few stating on their bios that they are already booked out for 2019 :/ So I guess that could be a very limiting factor. HSE would probably be the next best thing for us, but do you actually get to pick the person doing the ceremony or do they just assign someone to you randomly?

    I'm still not clear what approach we should take for booking everything. I had thought we could come up with a short list of venues and then start making enquires, particularly around availability. Then immediately contact some humanists to see if they have any overlapping availability with the venue(s). Or would we be doing things backwards?! I'm not sure what order things are normally done! I feel like we need to have all our ducks in a row to try and book everything symtaneously? Some of the humanist bios say to contact them with details of the date and venue, so I thought I'd have to sort those out first (but only provisionally book incase there's an issue).

    You would need to register your intent to marry and that needs to be done 3 months prior so 2019 is out of the question for you for a start - it's only under extreme circumstances can they do it for less than 3 months but you need to apply to the courts for that....


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  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 5 vatvatie


    6-12 months...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    You would need to register your intent to marry and that needs to be done 3 months prior so 2019 is out of the question for you for a start - it's only under extreme circumstances can they do it for less than 3 months but you need to apply to the courts for that....

    Sorry, don't know where my head was at talking about 2019! I meant 2020... maybe their availability isn't as bad as I thought so :P


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭tiredblondie


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Sorry, don't know where my head was at talking about 2019! I meant 2020... maybe their availability isn't as bad as I thought so :P

    i did wonder haha!!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,497 ✭✭✭NSAman


    all in all about 15 hours

    Arrive Dublin airport, take flight to Chicago.. take flight to Las Vegas... get married.. simples...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Lol I'm not going to lie, we haven't completely ruled out eloping :P But I do actually want to celebrate with my close family and friends. I wouldn't want them to travel (my mother in particular due to her health) and if we're going to have a celebration here afterwards anyway, we might as well do the whole thing here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 360 ✭✭Humour Me


    Organise the solemizer first, get on the phone and see what dates they have available. If someone tells you they have a Saturday available book it provisionally then start checking venues availability for that date.

    The demand is so high for Saturday’s you might find that there are no dates available for 2020.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Thanks for that! If we go the humanist route then, I guess we just try to pick someone from the following link?
    https://www.humanism.ie/category/celebrant/dublin/
    (Maybe double checking against the HSE list of approved solemnisers!)

    I'm not sure what the etiquette is though - would it be ok to email a few people to get an idea of availability, then check the availability of whatever venue we have in mind... and then go with the humanist who has overlapping availability with the venue? :/ I'm just afraid that if we pick one person to go with from the offset, we might end up seriously limiting our venue options based on the dates one particular humanist is available (when there might be a few humanists we'd be happy with and would give us more flexibility for venue dates).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,970 ✭✭✭aquinn


    woodchuck wrote: »
    Thanks for that! If we go the humanist route then, I guess we just try to pick someone from the following link?
    https://www.humanism.ie/category/celebrant/dublin/
    (Maybe double checking against the HSE list of approved solemnisers!)

    I'm not sure what the etiquette is though - would it be ok to email a few people to get an idea of availability, then check the availability of whatever venue we have in mind... and then go with the humanist who has overlapping availability with the venue? :/ I'm just afraid that if we pick one person to go with from the offset, we might end up seriously limiting our venue options based on the dates one particular humanist is available (when there might be a few humanists we'd be happy with and would give us more flexibility for venue dates).

    Have you been to one previously and liked the celebrant? If so start with them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    aquinn wrote: »
    Have you been to one previously and liked the celebrant? If so start with them.

    I can't say that I have. I think we've been to humanist ceremonies before, but I can't say that anyone stood out in particular.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    NSAman wrote: »
    all in all about 15 hours

    Arrive Dublin airport, take flight to Chicago.. take flight to Las Vegas... get married.. simples...

    We went Royal Caribbean. Soooooo much easier. Not mentioning names, certain members in the family do not react well in close proximity to others, this is exacerbated when alcohol is introduced. If you are down the country and they kick up a fuss in the local hotel your family have to suffer the burden of the shame. You kick off at sea, into the Brig with you and off at the next port and banned from sailing on Royal Caribbean or its affiliates.

    I thought that the wedding co-ordinator on Royal Caribbean was AMAZING. Everything was taken care of over the internet long before we went. Photographer worked through the night so we had an amazing array of Photos. They even decorated a Bridal Suite for us. Best of all the lesser members of the families couldnt attend.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 6,816 ✭✭✭skooterblue2


    Humour Me wrote: »
    Organise the solemizer first, get on the phone and see what dates they have available. If someone tells you they have a Saturday available book it provisionally then start checking venues availability for that date.

    The demand is so high for Saturday’s you might find that there are no dates available for 2020.

    Go with Friday the 13th..... we did.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 70 ✭✭buffin


    We had our wedding and actual legal marriage separately. Some of the people out there who perform 'weddings' in Ireland aren't legally able to, so they lead the ceremony and you get married in the registry office sometime that suits. We got my best friend and some family members to perform parts of our ceremony for us rather than paying a stranger 500euro for effectively the same thing, and it was just fantastic. Made everything so personal and special. That day still 100% was our wedding, the registry office was just the paperwork. Made booking dates so much easier as we planned with about 8 months notice overall.

    We had our wedding in Roundwood House in Laois, I think they can take weddings as big as 60 (not sure though, we had 14 there!) but could be an option with the size you're looking at!?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,411 ✭✭✭✭woodchuck


    Thanks again for all the advice!

    At the moment I'm having trouble narrowing down suitable venues. The guestlist is actually likely to be smaller than we initally thought, more like 40-60 depending on the dropout rate (which may be high, as there are fair few that would need to travel home from abroad). Ideally we'd like somewhere that can:
    - Accommodate a small number of ~40-60 people on a Friday or Saturday
    - Have a sit down meal and afters in the same place (we wouldn't have many/any more guests for the afters).

    I really like the Anglers Rest, but they have a minimum of 70 at weekends (although we haven't ruled out paying extra for 70 people, even if we only have ~50 on the day).

    I've been in touch with the Cliff Townhouse too and they would be perfect for our numbers. But they said we'd either need to finish up by 11.30pm, or if we want to stay late we'd need to book all 9 rooms. The vast majority of our guests probably wouldn't need/want accommodation or any who do could easily find something cheaper. So we could end up paying a lot of money for empty rooms or else we'd have to finish up "early" (which I haven't ruled out myself :P). I know they're a popular option though, so could have trouble with availability, particularly getting a date that a humanist is also free.

    I've enquired about the Schoolhouse too - again, perfect for our numbers. But it sounds like we'd have to have an early dinner (done by 7pm) and my partner is concerned about the fact that we wouldn't have exclusive use of the bar afterwards.

    I'm waiting for a response from Marco Pierre White restaurant in Donnybrook, as again, they're good for our numbers. But not sure if an afters is a runner there.

    Any other ideas in Dublin? :/


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 13,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    Two friends got married a few years ago and had a very small gathering on their actual wedding day - they booked a private dining room in the Shelbourne Hotel where they and their guests had a fab dinner (by all accounts), I'm sure there were 40 or less people at it. After dinner, a few of us friends were able to join them for drinks in the room and then afterwards to a reception area. There was no after dinner entertainment or anything, they all had a bit of a sing song themselves and they had a much larger party the next day in teh Hibernian Club on St. Stephen's Green - also a very nice venue.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭SozBbz


    Drury Buildings?

    25 Fitzwilliam Place?

    Medley (the old Irish Times building)?


  • Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Regional East Moderators, Regional North West Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 13,329 Mod ✭✭✭✭miamee


    I read about this place before and it sounded lovely, (probably saw it on here somewhere to be fair). It's in Stillorgan http://www.beaufieldmews.com/weddings/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,605 ✭✭✭2ndcoming


    We went Royal Caribbean. Soooooo much easier. Not mentioning names, certain members in the family do not react well in close proximity to others, this is exacerbated when alcohol is introduced. If you are down the country and they kick up a fuss in the local hotel your family have to suffer the burden of the shame. You kick off at sea, into the Brig with you and off at the next port and banned from sailing on Royal Caribbean or its affiliates.

    I thought that the wedding co-ordinator on Royal Caribbean was AMAZING. Everything was taken care of over the internet long before we went. Photographer worked through the night so we had an amazing array of Photos. They even decorated a Bridal Suite for us. Best of all the lesser members of the families couldnt attend.

    Some post... :pac:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭SozBbz


    miamee wrote: »
    I read about this place before and it sounded lovely, (probably saw it on here somewhere to be fair). It's in Stillorgan http://www.beaufieldmews.com/weddings/

    I think it closed recently.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,889 ✭✭✭SozBbz


    Oh, also just thought of the Dylan hotel?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 706 ✭✭✭tiredblondie


    I got married in the Lucan Spa Hotel - our final numbers were 85 - we strangely enough had zero dropouts!
    But they were more than willing to accommodate smaller numbers and the price would reduce accordingly....


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