Tiviar Alpha Plus Combo STB

kindalen · 28-10-2019 01:04PM

Thanks, am using your build. Thanks for all your work. Have it over a year now, been delighted with it.

Will check settings when I get home

Gerry Wicklow · 28-10-2019 02:51PM

greasepalm wrote: »

In my 15 years with boxes never needed timeshift.

I use it when watching Formula 1 on German Tv and commentary of BBC5 radio. Timeshift allows you to sync the few seconds difference.

Zardoz · 28-10-2019 03:16PM

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

I use it when watching Formula 1 on German Tv and commentary of BBC5 radio. Timeshift allows you to sync the few seconds difference.

What do you listen to the radio on ?

NewClareman · 28-10-2019 05:32PM

Gerry Wicklow wrote: »

I use it when watching Formula 1 on German Tv and commentary of BBC5 radio. Timeshift allows you to sync the few seconds difference.

First good reason I’ve got to consider multi-satellite. What satellite do you use?

NewClareman · 28-10-2019 05:34PM

kindalen wrote: »

Keep getting a little blue circle turning, in top left of screen. It appears and goes in a few seconds. Any ideas what this means? Thanks.

It means that the box is carrying out an activity that is taking some time. I’ve never given it with timeshift, which I use continuously. It’s no big deal, and can be turned off, if it is annoying you.

kindalen · 28-10-2019 06:01PM

Cool, how do you turn it off? It is annoying me. Thanks

Gerry Wicklow · 28-10-2019 07:51PM

Zardoz wrote: »

What do you listen to the radio on ?

I have 2 sat boxes. I have a basic Bluetooth PC speaker system. Depending on circumstances I can either
1. use an audio cable direct from the rear of the sat box
2. use a laptop and webif to stream audio

NewClareman · 28-10-2019 10:32PM

kindalen wrote: »

Cool, how do you turn it off? It is annoying me. Thanks

Set the setting “ Show animation while busy”, to off. It can be found under OSD settings on the Web Interface.

kindalen · 28-10-2019 10:40PM

Thanks Newclareman.

I have my EPG location in Internal Flash, should I move to the hdd?

sligojoek · 28-10-2019 10:42PM

On this image it's :

Menu > Setup > Recordings & Timeshift > Timeshift Settings.

The high horse brigade · 28-10-2019 10:42PM

kindalen wrote: »

Thanks Newclareman.

I have my EPG location in Internal Flash, should I move to the hdd?

Yes, that's definitely what's causing the spinner. The epg is a huge file and you're loading it from internal flash every channel press

sligojoek · 28-10-2019 10:44PM

sligojoek wrote: »

On this image it's :

Menu > Setup > Recordings & Timeshift > Timeshift Settings.

Apologies. I thought you were looking for Timeshift settings.

kindalen · 28-10-2019 10:56PM

Thanks guys, really appreciate all the help. Problem completely solved now.

greasepalm · 28-10-2019 11:11PM

You may have to reflash box if you notice it is getting slower,epg to internal flash does that.

whoami1 · 29-10-2019 04:53PM

vimes wrote: »

This is precisely the problem I mentioned earlier in the thread.

RTE1, RTE1+1, RTE2+1, one of the Virgins, and the alternates.

I'd be hugely interested in
How you retune the channel at all

How to automate it

I don't know about automation. As far as I can see, the AutoBouquetMaker won't do a retune for Saorview frequencies.

As for a Saorview retune, this is how I do it:

Press the 'Menu' button on the remote
Select 'Setup' and click OK
Select 'Reception' and click OK
Select 'Automatic scan' and click OK
Set the first 4 options to 'No' by pressing the left or right arrow button and press down to go to the next menu entry
With the last option (Scan Tuner C) set to Yes, press the green button on the remote.
Wait for the retune to finish and click OK or close to get out of the menu. (I'm writing this step blind as my system is working fine at the moment).

The scan should only take a moment or two and when it completes, your reception should be improved.

This works for me anyway.

NewClareman · 29-10-2019 08:26PM

whoami1 wrote: »

It seems that every week or so, I have to re-tune my Saorview connection to get RTE1 working again as the signal has degraded to the point of being unusable. The OSD indicates a SNR of c. 45%.

I have an internal antenna, so it's not being affected by wind or rain. Also, whatever is happening doesn't affect RTE2, so I'm guessing it's something to do with the Mux it uses. I know that a couple of the other Saorview channels also go dodgy, but can't remember which ones as I seldom watch them.

Is anyone else seeing this, or is there a way I can automate this to happen overnight?

An SNR of c 45% is low, and indicates a marginal signal. You are most likely correct that all Channels on one frequency/mux, are impacted as a group. The standard answer in this case is to use a higher gain aerial, maybe even moving it outside.

I can only speculate as to why a retune helps. Maybe you are picking up signals from two different transmitters, with the relative strength of each varying from time, to time. (It would be worth your while checking the frequencies that are locked, after each retune, to see if they are the same.)

whoami1 wrote: »

I don't know about automation. As far as I can see, the AutoBouquetMaker won't do a retune for Saorview frequencies.

As for a Saorview retune, this is how I do it:
Press the 'Menu' button on the remote

Select 'Setup' and click OK

Select 'Reception' and click OK

Select 'Automatic scan' and click OK

Set the first 4 options to 'No' by pressing the left or right arrow button and press down to go to the next menu entry

With the last option (Scan Tuner C) set to Yes, press the green button on the remote.

Wait for the retune to finish and click OK or close to get out of the menu. (I'm writing this step blind as my system is working fine at the moment).

The scan should only take a moment or two and when it completes, your reception should be improved.

This works for me anyway.

How Saorview tuning works, depends on your configuration. If ABM is set up for Saorview, which I would recommend, then it recreates the Saorview Bouquet, on each scan. It uses the Saorview frequencies corresponding to the Saorview region you have configured. If you had selected the wrong region, it is feasible that the manual process you describeabove, would select a stronger region. However, on the next ABM scan, the configured mux’s/frequencies would be reused.
(Thinking about it, that might be the cause of your original issue.)

whoami1 · 30-10-2019 09:05AM

NewClareman wrote: »

I can only speculate as to why a retune helps. Maybe you are picking up signals from two different transmitters, with the relative strength of each varying from time, to time. (It would be worth your while checking the frequencies that are locked, after each retune, to see if they are the same.)

How Saorview tuning works, depends on your configuration. If ABM is set up for Saorview, which I would recommend, then it recreates the Saorview Bouquet, on each scan. It uses the Saorview frequencies corresponding to the Saorview region you have configured. If you had selected the wrong region, it is feasible that the manual process you describeabove, would select a stronger region. However, on the next ABM scan, the configured mux’s/frequencies would be reused.
(Thinking about it, that might be the cause of your original issue.)

Some good information there, thanks for that. I'll look into it some more.

PacMan · 01-11-2019 02:12PM

I am back again with another question.

I have read the thread, and re read and cannot understand how to do the following (If it is indeed possible.)

Is it possible that I can add a streaming tv station from the E2 player directly to the main EPG please ? (Bouquet/favourites0

It would be great if I could. And if it can be explained in easy baby steps, even better

Many Thanks

NewClareman · 01-11-2019 08:12PM

PacMan wrote: »

I am back again with another question.

I have read the thread, and re read and cannot understand how to do the following (If it is indeed possible.)

Is it possible that I can add a streaming tv station from the E2 player directly to the main EPG please ? (Bouquet/favourites0

It would be great if I could. And if it can be explained in easy baby steps, even better

Many Thanks

It is possible to do either. I did it briefly, but gave up as Arte is now geo blocked. Can’t provide baby steps, I’m afraid.

Shefwedfan · 01-11-2019 09:38PM

Are these really that hard to pick up? it seems like very few people supply

Atlantic Dawn · 01-11-2019 09:44PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Are these really that hard to pick up? it seems like very few people supply

Satworld have them...
https://www.satworld.ie/tiviar-alpha-plus-triple-tuner-combo.html

greasepalm · 02-11-2019 10:06AM

They are an old box superseded by newer makes and models.That always happens with boxes.

Shefwedfan · 02-11-2019 10:08AM

greasepalm wrote: »

They are an old box superseded by newer makes and models.That always happens with boxes.

So is their a better option available? or because of the skin available on here am I better investing in this>

I have dumped sky now

NewClareman · 02-11-2019 10:27AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So is their a better option available? or because of the skin available on here am I better investing in this>

I have dumped sky now

If you have the time to invest in learning Enigma2 configuration, ant it is not trivial, there are better hardware options available. Otherwise, this box is still a very good option.

We left Sky well over a year ago, and never looked back. The trick is having a box that is easy to use, by all family members. It took me time, but I eventually got an easy to use setup. It is auto-updating for terrestrial and satellite channels, with all channels in their correct Sky category. The image is on the thread on replacing Sky and requires only a few steps to set up.

Shefwedfan · 02-11-2019 11:01AM

NewClareman wrote: »

If you have the time to invest in learning Enigma2 configuration, ant it is not trivial, there are better hardware options available. Otherwise, this box is still a very good option.

We left Sky well over a year ago, and never looked back. The trick is having a box that is easy to use, by all family members. It took me time, but I eventually got an easy to use setup. It is auto-updating for terrestrial and satellite channels, with all channels in their correct Sky category. The image is on the thread on replacing Sky and requires only a few steps to set up.

Thanks, we had Sky for 4 years just so my wife could watch RTE

for maybe 1 hour a week.....finally got her to dump it as I bought LG TV and it has RTE player on it.....but still for kids etc and the odd rugby its handy to have Saorview.

I dont have time to learn the Enigma, Sky will be finished in a few weeks and just looking for something simple to use or I will be listening to it

I guess if I need to load on the Enigma image?

Will an internal aerial work? details from Saorview
2RN Transmitter:KIPPUREChanging in Sept:YesChannels:
Before Sept:
54, 58From Sept: 34, 35Polarization:HDirection (degrees):South (169)Distance: 30 km

greasepalm · 02-11-2019 04:37PM

It may depend on your budget at the time as when i started off it was a single sat receiver but very limited if you wanted to record another channel.I liked the option of swapable tuners as could change cable tuner for sat and if needed can run iptv.
Quad tuner boxes are rare now,triple tuners that can take internal hdd or triple tuners that have to have external powered hdd,combo box sat and cable/terrestrial record on one view on the other.

I did use an internal aerial for one of my boxes and had to check it was for the proper area as they were colour coded .

Enigma 2 boxes cover many things and models.

Images used can vary by users choice,mine is openvix on all boxes but when boxes are not supported by image support on one you may have to use a different supplier like openatv.Other hobbyists do their own thing with multi images for many boxes Grogbuild,Wooshbuild Infinity,Willobuild,

The more features one wants on a box the longer it takes as standard flashing a box is followed by setting up box via wizard onboard which is easy enough.Plenty of guides and you tube videos all help

Have a browse on wos

https://www.world-of-satellite.co.uk/satellite-and-terrestrial

Some people go mad in wanting a new skin or picons and keep changing it,i have used the same skin for 5 years and have stopped messing as i like to view.Images usually have a choice of what you would like to use.

NewClareman · 02-11-2019 04:55PM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I guess if I need to load on the Enigma image?

That's the easiest solution, to avoid having to configure it yourself. If you use my image, see the thread on replacing sky, you can even download a picture of the remote, showing what each button is used for. (Keeps Wifey happy.)

I wouldn't worry about the various images, for a simple Sky swap out. By and large they are for the enthusiasts who like playing about with their setup.

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Will an internal aerial work? details from Saorview
2RN Transmitter:KIPPUREChanging in Sept:YesChannels:
Before Sept:
54, 58From Sept: 34, 35Polarization:HDirection (degrees):South (169)Distance: 30 km

If the signal is strong enough, it will. This is no different than with any other stb or tv. Just stick the channel number into the in-built signal finder and see how you get on.

sligojoek · 03-11-2019 04:32AM

Shefwedfan wrote: »

So is their a better option available? or because of the skin available on here am I better investing in this>

I have dumped sky now

I'd get one if I were you. I've had one for 18 months. I was a bit dubious at the start that I'd be a bit naive but If you follow all the instructions that the lads have up you'll be grand.

06-11-2019 06:49PM

Just got the Tiviar today..I have just one cable from the dish untill i get a chance to run a second..And I have saorview channels..I can pause the tv pic,but the programme dorsnt pause..it has continued on when I press play again..Will it proper pause when flashed?..Thanks

The high horse brigade · 06-11-2019 06:52PM

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Just got the Tiviar today..I have just one cable from the dish untill i get a chance to run a second..And I have saorview channels..I can pause the tv pic,but the programme dorsnt pause..it has continued on when I press play again..Will it proper pause when flashed?..Thanks

Have you added and initialised the hard drive?

Tiviar Alpha Plus Combo STB

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