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BANGERNOMICS (sub2k) of the week/day Part 6

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,092 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    tnegun wrote: »
    He would appear to be saving cars from the breakers and then selling them on, I would run a mile.

    I just realised that I know the seller of that S80. He isn't buying cars directly out of breakers yards if that is what you are implying. He sells cars that dealers wouldn't exactly sell off of their forecourts

    I'm don't think there is anything wrong with that either.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,041 ✭✭✭tnegun


    Thats fair enough if you know him but being an off the books dealer and the other ads would have me running or at least very sceptical is all.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,092 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    Personally unless I’m spending close to five figures I’m not really concerned about the seller, what he does or if he’s a dealer etc. Eyes wide open if course, but if the car fits the bill I’ll but it


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,852 ✭✭✭carzony




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/new-nct-10-20excellent-condition/23184490

    MDg2NTQwMDEyMWMxZWJjZjkxNmRjNDY5OGUwZTIxNDU_FDOXzDh0EMRWgw_smV4qaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMzQwOTYxNzB8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    Full years test on this Panda for €495

    A bit scruffy but a grand car for the money all the same!

    Personally, I'd pass on any Fiat Panda's on offer.....worked for awhile in a company which ran a large body shop as part of the business, and they had a few Panda's in the fleet. So I saw at first hand what effect even a small shunt had on them, so Thanks, but no Thanks. But not every one has had the same experience with them, so if they take your fancy, go right ahead !!! ;)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,092 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/bmw-320d-nct-8-20-tax-11-19-low-miles/23326519

    ZjczZjg3ODgyMTlkMGI3NDQ0YzAyMzIzYTdjZmEwYjZpGWNt0PCXS7rHMupgJatWaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMzUyMDgyNjZ8fHw2MDB4NjAwfHx8fHx8fHw=.jpeg

    320d with test till July 2020, €600

    Looks tidy enough. Drawbar and everything


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,328 ✭✭✭✭colm_mcm


    There’s something so honest about a 320d with amber indicators.

    I’d love that. I have no room or use for it though.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,092 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    Same goes for 97-00 Passats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭selectamatic


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    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-kia-sorento/23348725

    05 2.5crdi Sorento
    Looks to be a clean unmolested example which is rare.
    2 owner from new, the current one since 07
    Test till May
    A hitch and 4 new tyres
    Outside a nice house too which is always a plus
    Asking €1100


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,092 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    Thats looks really nice. I quite like them


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,092 ✭✭✭✭Duke O Smiley


    colm_mcm wrote: »
    There’s something so honest about a 320d with amber indicators.

    I’d love that. I have no room or use for it though.

    Is that a Padre Pio sticker I see in the bottom left hand corner of the windscreen too? Another hallmark of a good car :D


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Thats looks really nice. I quite like them

    They're a great machine when working well. Do near anything a full size 4x4 would do, very good towing capacity and not awful on diesel either if driven handy.

    Expensive problems can crop up but at a grand clean ones are worth a punt imo.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,075 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    I really like that house


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,569 ✭✭✭mugsymugsy


    lawred2 wrote: »
    I really like that house

    Somehow don't think you will get it for bangernomics money!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,885 ✭✭✭Bawnmore


    mugsymugsy wrote: »
    Somehow don't think you will get it for bangernomics money!

    Not with that attitude.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,487 ✭✭✭Kamili


    They're a great machine when working well. Do near anything a full size 4x4 would do, very good towing capacity and not awful on diesel either if driven handy.

    Expensive problems can crop up but at a grand clean ones are worth a punt imo.

    A lot of the older ones are starting to die. I know quite a few people that had them for towing and ended up with massive issues. Several needed engine replacements, which were not economical to repair. Crankshaft bolts tend to break.

    I think there were several class action suits in the US over them throughout the years.

    https://www.consumeraffairs.com/news/kia-settles-class-action-alleging-engine-failure-in-2003-2006-sorento-suvs-022717.html

    https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/lawsuit-news/3292-kia-sorento-engine-defect-class-action-lawsuit/comment-page-14/


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,124 ✭✭✭W123-80's


    '01 E200
    NCT Dec '20
    Tax Jan '20
    96k miles

    Cloth interior is not great, but such is life.
    I really want one of these before the all disintegrate.
    Nice looking car

    Asking €1,380

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/01-merc-e200-kompressor-auto-new-nct-96k-miles/23286089


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭cadaliac


    W123-80's wrote: »
    '01 E200
    NCT Dec '20
    Tax Jan '20
    96k miles

    Cloth interior is not great, but such is life.
    I really want one of these before the all disintegrate.
    Nice looking car

    Asking €1,380

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/01-merc-e200-kompressor-auto-new-nct-96k-miles/23286089
    Great find. I still yearn after my old one.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,702 ✭✭✭✭Idbatterim


    Is that a Padre Pio sticker I see in the bottom left hand corner of the windscreen too? Another hallmark of a good car :D

    The clutch has to be fcuked!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭selectamatic


    Kamili wrote: »
    A lot of the older ones are starting to die. I know quite a few people that had them for towing and ended up with massive issues. Several needed engine replacements, which were not economical to repair. Crankshaft bolts tend to break.

    I think there were several class action suits in the US over them throughout the years.

    The crank pulley problem is more commonly seen in relation to the 3.5 v6 petrol ones.

    But ya the 2.5crdi's can have their fair share of problems especially injector and injection pump problems and also timing chain problems. The transfer case is another known weak point.

    Any of the above would leave one uneconomical to repair but that said at a grand for a well minded one I'd take the chance.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,724 ✭✭✭Mad_Mike


    W123-80's wrote: »
    '01 E200
    NCT Dec '20
    Tax Jan '20
    96k miles

    Cloth interior is not great, but such is life.
    I really want one of these before the all disintegrate.
    Nice looking car

    Asking €1,380

    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/01-merc-e200-kompressor-auto-new-nct-96k-miles/23286089

    ZmRiMmZhMzNmMGUwNWU3NTg2N2MxYTE4YTFjYzk5ZGYEr04XJ1D1mh7Ne9pOkAtBaHR0cDovL3MzLWV1LXdlc3QtMS5hbWF6b25hd3MuY29tL2RvbmVkZWFsLmllLXBob3Rvcy9waG90b18xMzQ4Nzg0NDZ8fHwxMjAweDEyMDB8fHx8fHx8fA==.jpeg

    Looking at the drivers side pics, it almost looks like this one has already started to disintegrate has it?

    Seems like both sills or maybe the doors have had work done and painted over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 51,855 ✭✭✭✭bazz26


    Looks like a rotter to me. Bubbles on the bottom of both doors where the shut line meets the side skirt. Same with where the bumper top line meets the rear quarter.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,239 ✭✭✭selectamatic


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    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-bmw-320d-se-taxd-amp-nctd/23374079

    2005 e90 SE 320d
    Uk import but same owner since 2010
    Test till May, Tax till December
    Looks clean and nicely spec'd
    Supposedly 140k miles on the clock and a service history
    Bridgestone tyres all round
    Asking €850


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    That bmw is a bargain. One of the most bomb proof engines ever made.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,904 ✭✭✭cadaliac


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    https://www.donedeal.ie/cars-for-sale/2005-bmw-320d-se-taxd-amp-nctd/23374079

    2005 e90 SE 320d
    Uk import but same owner since 2010
    Test till May, Tax till December
    Looks clean and nicely spec'd
    Supposedly 140k miles on the clock and a service history
    Bridgestone tyres all round
    Asking €850
    Gone


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Next time you see it it'll be on cut springs and will go "boo" as it kerb crawls at 20 mph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,866 ✭✭✭Hoboo


    That bmw is a bargain. One of the most bomb proof engines ever made.

    I have no idea, car clueless. What year BMW's are best, and what do you stay clear of? How do you know what engine it has? Cheers


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,885 ✭✭✭✭MEGA BRO WOLF 5000


    Hoboo wrote: »
    I have no idea, car clueless. What year BMW's are best, and what do you stay clear of? How do you know what engine it has? Cheers

    In an e90 320d for bangernomics purposes, anything up until 2007 is good, there's quite a few 2008's that have this M47 good engine before it was replaced by the N47. The N47 isn't junk but it could require a timing chain replacement and doesn't give you a whole pile of warning before it snaps. Pre-facelift diesel BMW 320's are M47 before they changed the headlights, bumpers, bonnet and grille in 2008. If you're clever you can get an early 2008 with cheap tax of 280 p/a as opposed to 710 p/a with a 2007.

    If you manage to find a cheap 2008+ facelift model and go for the N47... wouldn't be my personal choice but.... when you start the engine, let it idle and sit in the drivers seat and listen for a noise that sounds, what I can only describe like a single, gently shaken maraca from behind the centre of the dash. The timing chain is sited at the back of the engine compartment, and is most audible from inside. Raise the revs, and the cadence of the noise will increase. If it does that, walk away. If you hear nothing still be wary that it'll probably need doing at some stage and that's quite a costly job.

    I've owned a few, some with 20 thousand miles and others with 200 thousand miles. Suspension is a different matter... the "m-sport" spec rides quite hard and parts wear out quick! I seem to be continuously replacing worn out bits. I'm easily under the car every three months replacing something...and quite complex in terms of it will drive fine, no squeaks, rattles or bangs but your NCT tester will undoubtedly tell you there's something a miss. It happens every single time.

    Basically for bangernomics. Early 2008 (cheap tax), pre facelift 320d.

    On the left is facelift (LCI), right is pre facelift.

    bmw1.jpg
    bmw2.jpg


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,208 ✭✭✭jmreire


    In an e90 320d for bangernomics purposes, anything up until 2007 is good, there's quite a few 2008's that have this M47 good engine before it was replaced by the N47. The N47 isn't junk but it could require a timing chain replacement and doesn't give you a whole pile of warning before it snaps. Pre-facelift diesel BMW 320's are M47 before they changed the headlights, bumpers, bonnet and grille in 2008. If you're clever you can get an early 2008 with cheap tax of 280 p/a as opposed to 710 p/a with a 2007.

    If you manage to find a cheap 2008+ facelift model and go for the N47... wouldn't be my personal choice but.... when you start the engine, let it idle and sit in the drivers seat and listen for a noise that sounds, what I can only describe like a single, gently shaken maraca from behind the centre of the dash. The timing chain is sited at the back of the engine compartment, and is most audible from inside. Raise the revs, and the cadence of the noise will increase. If it does that, walk away. If you hear nothing still be wary that it'll probably need doing at some stage and that's quite a costly job.

    I've owned a few, some with 20 thousand miles and others with 200 thousand miles. Suspension is a different matter... the "m-sport" spec rides quite hard and parts wear out quick! I seem to be continuously replacing worn out bits. I'm easily under the car every three months replacing something...and quite complex in terms of it will drive fine, no squeaks, rattles or bangs but your NCT tester will undoubtedly tell you there's something a miss. It happens every single time.

    Basically for bangernomics. Early 2008 (cheap tax), pre facelift 320d.

    On the left is facelift (LCI), right is pre facelift.

    bmw1.jpg
    bmw2.jpg

    Thats as good a piece of advice for anyone looking at buying a BMW as I have ever heard !!! And with Pics too. Good post, Thanks.:D


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 569 ✭✭✭Peter T


    Also something to add is the use of run flats in the LCI (not sure about non face lift, haven't owned one). Coupled with msport suspension on Irish roads can lead to a harsh drive. Staggered wheel fitment (Run flat tires starting at 180 for the front 240 at the back) . Also the crank pulley is a common fault too and can fail. If buying and it hasn't been replaced id factor a replacement into cost for peace of mind


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