South Park WW ROLE MADNESS - Game Thread

Abigail WW · 23-10-2019 2:51pm

Vernon WW wrote: »

I have a wee confession

Vernon WW wrote: »

I healed Derry and not Liam.

I was concerned about dying last night and knew if I said Derry you wouldn't save me.

I cured Derry because I honestly thought that's what the village requested. I started back yesterday trying to find the posts and there are a few that imply things but Henry is right there's nothing that flat out requests the village to heal him. I must have assumed cause we selected him to peek that Yee also wanted him saved.

I don't buy this to be honest.

Conor WW · 23-10-2019 2:54pm

Winifred WW wrote: »

Nothing hedgy about it. Vern has been on my watchlist since early on. When he came out with the claim I was away and had a vote on him. I've believed he's bad.

Orla's claim enforced that for me.

All i'm saying is that I can see a perspective where he is legitimately afraid we'll kill him for saving derry.

That said. I want him dead because I believe he's bad.

This is important for me. I really wasn’t going to come out last night and admit I rigged the votes in case Senan was good. The way villages ultimately go on lynch can be quite shallow. I don’t see more evidence agaisnt Vernon then I do Tegan but I accept I seem to be the only one who sees extremely big holes in her defence. It’s also ironic that her explanation (she panicked vote Vernon to save herself) is acceptable but Vernon’s doesn’t change anything.

So Vernon lied about who he heeled. Right so he’s a wolf that hoped the person with the poison wouldn’t come out? Senans last vote last night was to condemn a fellow wolf, not to kill Lucy instead? There’s no angle where Orla and Vernon are good?

Conor WW · 23-10-2019 2:56pm

Henry WW wrote: »

I need to go do some actual work - if I am taken out by the vig before I come back (who killed Dessie btw, so who i'm pretty sure is evil), don't leave Angus off the hook for the 10am shots that have been happening every day.

Interesting when you bring it up about Angus it’s popular but when I bring it up earlier it’s ignored.

What’s the f**kin point of me bothering... Looks like it’s all in hand, will leave you guys to it.

Phil WW · 23-10-2019 2:58pm

Conor,

Last night myself and Tegan were having a back and forth and I switched my vote to Mary. About 10 minutes later I switched back again to Tegan and he knew right away. I commented on it (will go back and find post). He was watching the lynch thread like a hawk so I don’t buy that he didn’t know how things stood with numbers.

Winifred WW · 23-10-2019 3:01pm

Conor WW wrote: »

Interesting when you bring it up about Angus it’s popular but when I bring it up earlier it’s ignored.

What’s the f**kin point of me bothering... Looks like it’s all in hand, will leave you guys to it.

Calm down bud. People are on at different times and take more notice of different conversations depending on what the environment is...

Senan jumping on Vernon last minute is definitely interesting. Could he have been trying to join a clear winning wagon to give himself village cred?

I've had bad vibes from Vernon from early on and the shenanigans last night, and now this has added to that suspicion.

I want to hear all of your thoughts on everyone.

Would you mind doing a full reads list?

Phil WW · 23-10-2019 3:01pm

This was his reply to me saying “oh, so you are around” (summat like that)

Tegan WW wrote: »

Oh you got me i didnt vote how the wolf told me i must be evil:rolleyes:

get over yourself

i was looking at the votes

youll make yourself dizzy all your fooling around

Conor WW · 23-10-2019 3:01pm

Phil WW wrote: »

Conor,

Last night myself and Tegan were having a back and forth and I switched my vote to Mary. About 10 minutes later I switched back again to Tegan and he knew right away. I commented on it (will go back and find post). He was watching the lynch thread like a hawk so I don’t buy that he didn’t know how things stood with numbers.

Neither do I but it seems everything I’ve asked is ok cause they said stuff and were worried when there was clearly nothing to worry about if they were paying attention him to votes.

But Vernon is guilt as charged for the exact same sort of explanation and nothing else remotely dodgy about him.

I’m not buying it. Village can vote Vernon but without anything else convincing I’m not on that wagon.

Patrick WW · 23-10-2019 3:05pm

Phil WW wrote: »

Conor,

Last night myself and Tegan were having a back and forth and I switched my vote to Mary. About 10 minutes later I switched back again to Tegan and he knew right away. I commented on it (will go back and find post). He was watching the lynch thread like a hawk so I don’t buy that he didn’t know how things stood with numbers.

This is a fair point, when I voted Tegan he was straight on thread actually, doesn't match up with him not knowing where the vote stood

Conor WW · 23-10-2019 3:05pm

Phil WW wrote: »

This was his reply to me saying “oh, so you are around” (summat like that)

Tegan’s despises have changed dramatically since I started to seriously look at her. All fun and game when people are just prodding but when I start to look at behaviors and post evidence she accuses me of tunnelling , calls me a wolf and then answers some parts of my insinuations.

Even if people think I’m tunnelling , how anybody doesn’t see it worthwhile looking into the things I’ve been saying (like voting information) has been disappointing and yet people accept the Vernon lynch (that maybe legit) much quicker?!!

Isla WW · 23-10-2019 3:07pm

Conor WW wrote: »

Neither do I but it seems everything I’ve asked is ok cause they said stuff and were worried when there was clearly nothing to worry about if they were paying attention him to votes.

But Vernon is guilt as charged for the exact same sort of explanation and nothing else remotely dodgy about him.

I’m not buying it. Village can vote Vernon but without anything else convincing I’m not on that wagon.

Who do you think more Wolfy than Vern? it's actually good that not everyone is on the Vern wagon. We get more info if everyone isn't in there.

Phil WW · 23-10-2019 3:07pm

What did Mary’s derp role do?

Patrick WW · 23-10-2019 3:08pm

Henry WW wrote: »

Just gonna throw this out there before I find a charger and disappear for a bit:

Ewan Frank
Lucy Wendy Mary Ewan Vernon Orla
Vernon Isla Oisin Eva Winifred Lucy Henry
Tegan Fiona Phil Barbara Clodagh Orla Patrick
Senan Emily Liam Brendan Angus Tegan
Brendan Senan
Henry Doris

Could do with someone checking as I had Tegan voting for herself earlier...

Tegan WW wrote: »

Anyway by the look of this its a tight race with Patrick in last to ensure I go.

Tegans reply a couple of mins after I voted. This was at 20 past 8

Henry WW · 23-10-2019 3:09pm

Conor WW wrote: »

Tegan’s despises have changed dramatically since I started to seriously look at her. All fun and game when people are just prodding but when I start to look at behaviors and post evidence she accuses me of tunnelling , calls me a wolf and then answers some parts of my insinuations.

Even if people think I’m tunnelling , how anybody doesn’t see it worthwhile looking into the things I’ve been saying (like voting information) has been disappointing and yet people accept the Vernon lynch (that maybe legit) much quicker?!!

I've asked you to respond to the work I already did for you before I go further into your theory. I'll be back later if you can respond to my posts about last night's voting table in the meantime?

Isla WW · 23-10-2019 3:09pm

Phil WW wrote: »

What did Mary’s derp role do?

Usually a derp has to do silly things that might draw attention to them in order to gain rewards. She hinted her death might explain her lack of voting and maybe that was a Derp task but I dunno if she got any rewards.

Patrick WW · 23-10-2019 3:10pm

Conor WW wrote: »

Tegan’s despises have changed dramatically since I started to seriously look at her. All fun and game when people are just prodding but when I start to look at behaviors and post evidence she accuses me of tunnelling , calls me a wolf and then answers some parts of my insinuations.

Even if people think I’m tunnelling , how anybody doesn’t see it worthwhile looking into the things I’ve been saying (like voting information) has been disappointing and yet people accept the Vernon lynch (that maybe legit) much quicker?!!

You know both can be bad, there is more overwhelming evidence against Vern than Tegan. Vern has rolled back from a lie regardless of the reasoning, it's suspect behaviour.

Phil WW · 23-10-2019 3:10pm

Vote times.

12:21 Wendy votes Lucy
13:24 Mary votes Lucy
13:40 Ewan votes Lucy
15:29 Isla votes Vernon
15:43 Oisin votes Vernon
16:07 Fiona votes Tegan
16:44 Emily votes Senan
16:49 Eva votes Vernon
17:12 Clodagh votes Tegan
17:55 Winifred votes Vernon
18:01 Vernon votes Lucy
18:10 Phil votes Tegan
18:12 Lucy votes Vernon
18:15 Henry votes Tegan
18:34 Liam votes Senan
18:55 Brendan votes Senan
19:04 Henry votes Vernon
19:36 Angus votes Senan
19:37 Doris votes Henry
20:11 Orla votes Lucy
20:36 Abigail votes Doris
20:53 Conor votes Senan
20:53 Patrick votes Vernon
20:54 Barbara votes Lucy
20:55 Tegan votes Vernon
20:58 Frank votes Tegan
20:59 Senan votes Vernon

Phil WW · 23-10-2019 3:12pm

Isla WW wrote: »

Usually a derp has to do silly things that might draw attention to them in order to gain rewards. She hinted her death might explain her lack of voting and maybe that was a Derp task but I dunno if she got any rewards.

She said she could block players from their back room like Tegan. Was that a lie?

Tegan WW · 23-10-2019 3:12pm

Conor WW wrote: »

Tegan’s despises have changed dramatically since I started to seriously look at her. All fun and game when people are just prodding but when I start to look at behaviors and post evidence she accuses me of tunnelling , calls me a wolf and then answers some parts of my insinuations.

Even if people think I’m tunnelling , how anybody doesn’t see it worthwhile looking into the things I’ve been saying (like voting information) has been disappointing and yet people accept the Vernon lynch (that maybe legit) much quicker?!!

You said were tunnelling originally

Phil WW · 23-10-2019 3:13pm

I’m not gonna say it.

Conor WW · 23-10-2019 3:14pm

Isla WW wrote: »

Who do you think more Wolfy than Vern? it's actually good that not everyone is on the Vern wagon. We get more info if everyone isn't in there.

Really ? You have to ask ?

Tegan WW · 23-10-2019 3:14pm

Phil WW wrote: »

She said she could block players from their back room like Tegan. Was that a lie?

NO it wasnt

Patrick WW · 23-10-2019 3:18pm

Tegan WW wrote: »

NO it wasnt

How do you know Mary wasn't lying?

Phil WW · 23-10-2019 3:18pm

Tegan WW wrote: »

NO it wasnt

So how does the derp role work then?

Isla WW · 23-10-2019 3:19pm

Conor WW wrote: »

Really ? You have to ask ?

tbh you posted more about Tegan around a minute before I posted that. Didn't want to have to quote myself and for I think the 3rd time today say ignore that answered as asked.

I suspect Vernon more and his revealing the info that had just been revealed during his 10mins where he claimed he hadn't read anything that had been recently posted didn't stop that. However I don't think that if he is a wolf that he is the last one and people like Brendan or Tegan I could believe being team mates.

Winifred WW · 23-10-2019 3:20pm

Mary is dead. Has been revealed.

What is there to gain by discussing her role mechanics?

Isla WW · 23-10-2019 3:22pm

Isla WW wrote: »

Usually a derp has to do silly things that might draw attention to them in order to gain rewards. She hinted her death might explain her lack of voting and maybe that was a Derp task but I dunno if she got any rewards.

Phil WW wrote: »

So how does the derp role work then?

As above. She could have been able to do that as a reward for her Derping but usualy a Derp gets a 1 time power for a completed task so she could have been pretending that was her role in case she could get more rewards for completed tasks without people knowing.

Conor WW · 23-10-2019 3:23pm

Tegan WW wrote: »

You said were tunnelling originally

The evidence against you has mostly not been disputed. Henry posted a correction of his own records on who was up for the lynch that only suggests you had cause to be concerned. Thats it. . That is literally it and hes demanding a response to his post as if its some sort of golden bullet when its not. .

It doesnt change the fact that you could see in real time how votes were changing and if you were paying attention (as Phil has proven you were), you would of known you were safe by the time you voted for Vernon. Thats just a fact. So your "I was worried about being lynched" explanation doesnt add up on any level unless you werent paying attention. Vernons explanation at least makes sense, but Vernons one lie is being used to lynch. Your "defence" is being ignored by everybody.

Part of the reason I think there are wolves pulling strings is because instead of reading my theories/evidence and responding directly, people keep making alternative statements or asking alternative questions. Now Winnie wants me to give a comprehensive read of everybody ? What ? So when the village wont even investigate and discuss the things I have posted about you, I should now start going off on all tangents about everybody ? Sounds like wolves looking for angles to be honest . .

And my issue is not that I am right and that I have irrefutable evidence, its that I feel I have posted enough things that place a massive question mark over your head, that nobody is bothered engaging me on. And then Vernons situation arises, one dodgy thing about Vernon and everybody's game for a lynch . . I dont know if Vernon is bad or not, I just dont see much outside the box discussions on it, just people trying to squeeze him into their narrative.

Phil WW · 23-10-2019 3:24pm

Winifred WW wrote: »

Mary is dead. Has been revealed.

What is there to gain by discussing her role mechanics?

Because herself and Tegan were online yesterday saying their role was similar.

Winifred WW · 23-10-2019 3:29pm

Phil WW wrote: »

Because herself and Tegan were online yesterday saying their role was similar.

Well we know mary was the derp, so her role is not the same as Tegan's claimed role.

She could have won a prize that's similar though.

Winifred WW · 23-10-2019 3:31pm

Conor WW wrote: »

The evidence against you has mostly not been disputed. Henry posted a correction of his own records on who was up for the lynch that only suggests you had cause to be concerned. Thats it. . That is literally it and hes demanding a response to his post as if its some sort of golden bullet when its not. .

It doesnt change the fact that you could see in real time how votes were changing and if you were paying attention (as Phil has proven you were), you would of known you were safe by the time you voted for Vernon. Thats just a fact. So your "I was worried about being lynched" explanation doesnt add up on any level unless you werent paying attention. Vernons explanation at least makes sense, but Vernons one lie is being used to lynch. Your "defence" is being ignored by everybody.

Part of the reason I think there are wolves pulling strings is because instead of reading my theories/evidence and responding directly, people keep making alternative statements or asking alternative questions. Now Winnie wants me to give a comprehensive read of everybody ? What ? So when the village wont even investigate and discuss the things I have posted about you, I should now start going off on all tangents about everybody ? Sounds like wolves looking for angles to be honest . .

And my issue is not that I am right and that I have irrefutable evidence, its that I feel I have posted enough things that place a massive question mark over your head, that nobody is bothered engaging me on. And then Vernons situation arises, one dodgy thing about Vernon and everybody's game for a lynch . . I dont know if Vernon is bad or not, I just dont see much outside the box discussions on it, just people trying to squeeze him into their narrative.

I've not been worrying about Tegan because there's been so much heat on her. I'm happy to go for either Vernon or Tegan today. either way, both need to be taken out in succession, because they're just causing distractions now at this stage.

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