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Origin of meat?

  • 25-09-2019 01:08PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭


    When you're buying meat from the butchers or the supermarket do you look at the country of origin?

    I was in the restaurant and happened to ask where the origin of the chicken on the menu was from (assuming it was Irish) to be told it was from Brazil. Do restaurant have to display this information anywhere?

    Today I checked out chicken in a local butchers and the origin was CN. I always assumed the meat from the butchers was Irish.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,030 ✭✭✭wawaman


    Oonagh123 wrote: »
    When you're buying meat from the butchers or the supermarket do you look at the origin?

    I was in the restaurant and happened to ask where the origin of the chicken on the menu was from (assuming it was Irish) to be told it was from Brazil. Do restaurant have to display this information anywhere?

    Today I checked out chicken in a local butchers and the origin was CN. I always assumed the meat from the butchers was Irish.

    Cavan. Might aswell be a different country in fairness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 119 ✭✭Oonagh123


    I assumed CN was China?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 991 ✭✭✭TuringBot47


    Oonagh123 wrote: »
    When you're buying meat from the butchers or the supermarket do you look at the origin?

    Yeah, I check its origin is from a cow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,607 ✭✭✭stoneill


    Origin of meat is either from the top shelf, or the one below it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,942 ✭✭✭topper75


    Oonagh123 wrote: »
    Today I checked out chicken in a local butchers and the origin was CN. I always assumed the meat from the butchers was Irish.

    I've been making the same dumb assumption.
    I'll wake up from now on.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,661 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    In general, if the origin isn't declared don't assume it is Irish.

    Usually if it is Irish this will be mentioned as a marketing \ provenance plus point.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,779 ✭✭✭✭Princess Consuela Bananahammock


    Oonagh123 wrote: »
    I assumed CN was China?

    I thought Cananda...

    Everything I don't like is either woke or fascist - possibly both - pick one.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,661 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    I thought Cananda...

    Canada is CA, if this is the right listing...
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1

    IE for Ireland.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,784 ✭✭✭✭TheValeyard


    I do actually. I always try buy Irish farm produce and like using a local butchers who slaughters what he sells from local farms

    Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,174 ✭✭✭Lady Haywire


    Never assume chicken in a butchers is fresh unless they have chickens with feathers still hanging up!
    A lot of butchers outsource their chicken portions which would be delivered en masse in trays and then sauced up or diced & added to mixes or put out on silver platters etc, whatever they do to pieces. These could only be slaughtering sheep/cattle only. Some don't even do that & will buy in the carcass to butcher and sell then.

    Always. Ask.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,511 ✭✭✭Outkast_IRE


    Yes i always try to check the origin of meat if getting a cut of meat. If you are buying a highly processed product then its more likely to be produced as cheaply as possible from another country.

    I always try to buy irish whenever possible , you wouldnt know what the meat coming in from the likes of Brazil contains. There are major issues with deforestation going to arise from this.


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators, Paid Member Posts: 78,543 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    It all started with the Big Bang!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 24,799 ✭✭✭✭dxhound2005


    Whole chickens, or portions with bone in, are probably home produced. The extra weight makes them less worthwhile to import. But chicken breast fillets will probably be from somewhere like Thailand or Brazil.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,801 ✭✭✭✭suicide_circus


    i only buy Irish meat. only buy whole chickens too.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,661 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Whole chickens, or portions with bone in, are probably home produced. The extra weight makes them less worthwhile to import. But chicken breast fillets will probably be from somewhere like Thailand or Brazil.

    Netherlands also I think?

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Closed Accounts Posts: 18,252 ✭✭✭✭uck51js9zml2yt


    My beef came from a cow that was in a field 5 minutes walk from my house.
    Travelled 20km from field to butcher to freezer.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭Fionn1952


    I get the vast majority of my meat from a local butcher, majority of the meat is from his own farm, the rest is from other local farms.

    Price is usually in around typical supermarket prices, a little more expensive than the German ones. Quality is much higher than the supermarkets.

    The locality of the produce is of some importance, supporting a local butcher and being able to avail of his skills and advice is more important to me.

    I'm probably guilty of presumption when it comes to restaurants, I tend to assume Irish origin in anything except cheap fast food type restaurants, when I really shouldn't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    Yes, I always buy Irish beef and it is generally possible to see where that is from. I buy most meat in the butcher and a small bit in Supervalue such as sausages and ham. I buy all my chicken from Supervalue because for some weird reason butchers never sell free range chicken. I never buy cheap chicken, what do they do to it or where does it come from that its so cheap. I don't really eat pork (other then sausages and ham) and buy my fish from a fish shop where the origin is clear. I will buy Irish if there is a choice.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    My beef came from a cow that was in a field 5 minutes walk from my house.
    Travelled 20km from field to butcher to freezer.


    The cattle in my near field are my friends and they know they are safe/.. such lovely kind faces they have..huge eyes!

    only meat here is chicken for the cats and supervalu seem to sell only Irish.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,292 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    I know somebody who worked in a fast food place and she always said chicken on the bone was Irish and the boneless stuff wasn't.

    I'd also look at the vlbutcher you are using. I know some people who refuses to but supermarket meat and the butcher they visit is basically a place where they open packets.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,067 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Graces7 wrote: »
    The cattle in my near field are my friends and they know they are safe/.. such lovely kind faces they have..huge eyes!
    Sounds to me like they are living in constant terror.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,735 ✭✭✭jam_mac_jam


    I know somebody who worked in a fast food place and she always said chicken on the bone was Irish and the boneless stuff wasn't.

    I'd also look at the vlbutcher you are using. I know some people who refuses to but supermarket meat and the butcher they visit is basically a place where they open packets.

    Mine is a good one. He has gone out the back to cut me something if its not out and I have seen them cutting up out the back. They also have more unusual things.

    I did go to one butcher and asked what they had for a stew and was given steak pieces where the one I go to always has shin beef. A kilo of which lasts me a week in stews or curries.


  • Posts: 2,050 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Graces7 wrote: »
    The cattle in my near field are my friends and they know they are safe/.. such lovely kind faces they have..huge eyes!

    They are safe, until the day a man with a trailer arrives, beats them into it, drives them to a place that stinks of death where they are forced into an abattoir and killed.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    Ficheall wrote: »
    Sounds to me like they are living in constant terror.

    lol.. not these. Small island and just a few, that are so well treated and cared for. The man treats them like pets ..But you know they may have a "race memory"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,634 ✭✭✭✭Graces7


    They are safe, until the day a man with a trailer arrives, beats them into it, drives them to a place that stinks of death where they are forced into an abattoir and killed.

    :eek:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 18,708 ✭✭✭✭cj maxx


    Oonagh123 wrote: »
    When you're buying meat from the butchers or the supermarket do you look at the country of origin?

    I was in the restaurant and happened to ask where the origin of the chicken on the menu was from (assuming it was Irish) to be told it was from Brazil. Do restaurant have to display this information anywhere?

    Today I checked out chicken in a local butchers and the origin was CN. I always assumed the meat from the butchers was Irish.

    Even produce of Ireland labelled meat come from abroad. The meat is brought in whole , filleted in ireland then the fillets are 'Irish' produce. Same with legs , wings etc. The chicken might have come from Brazil but the individual portions are produce of Ireland. Its complete BS the whole lot of it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,661 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    cjmc wrote: »
    Even produce of Ireland labelled meat come from abroad. The meat is brought in whole , filleted in ireland then the fillets are 'Irish' produce. Same with legs , wings etc. The chicken might have come from Brazil but the individual portions are produce of Ireland. Its complete BS the whole lot of it.

    I think there are new labelling rules coming in to cover these scenarios but not until mid-2020.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Moderators, Music Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 25,740 Mod ✭✭✭✭Boom_Bap


    As long as the origin is an animal we're all good.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 38,661 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    Boom_Bap wrote: »
    As long as the origin is an animal we're all good.

    I'm patriotic. I only eat foreign animals myself.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,077 ✭✭✭Oasis1974


    I think some of Tesco's frozen dinners have the finest Romanian horse meat says on the packaging.


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