Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Utter Consternation · 12-09-2019 09:38AM

mo_bhicycle wrote: »

Squeezed into the ditch today by a MGP manoeuvre by a woman with a "I vote Connemara Greenway" sticker who then told be to "get off the road". She must only be voting for the greenway to get more cyclists off the road!

That's top class. A lover of cycling, but not of cyclists.

I nearly got taken out by a learner driver here on Tuesday evening. I was going straight on when the lights had changed and they shot up from behind me and nearly left hooked me. I'd to slam on the brakes. She nearly knocked myself and another cyclist off.

Cheeky dope beeped at me too as if it was my fault.

cdaly_ · 12-09-2019 10:50AM

Utter Consternation wrote: »

That's top class. A lover of cycling, but not of cyclists.

I nearly got taken out by a learner driver here on Tuesday evening. I was going straight on when the lights had changed and they shot up from behind me and nearly left hooked me. I'd to slam on the brakes. She nearly knocked myself and another cyclist off.

Did you stay in the bike lane as you crossed the junction? At that junction, I'd be in the centre of the car lane as I crossed. Then move back left.

Utter Consternation · 12-09-2019 11:15AM

cdaly_ wrote: »

Did you stay in the bike lane as you crossed the junction? At that junction, I'd be in the centre of the car lane as I crossed. Then move back left.

Yeah, i was in the bike lane. It's a sh1t show of a junction tbf.

There's a multitude of things that go wrong with it like people getting caught in the yellow box and RLJ's.

12-09-2019 11:15AM

On the NCR/Cabra Rd the other day heading out Cabra direction from town. I was turning right so moved over to the right hand side of the road. I was maybe 100m from the turn, so would have been there in a few seconds, but areshole in a Merc drives up behind me, beeps at me obviously, then drives on past. I cannot overstate how much this annoyed me so sent a choice hand gesture in his direction. He then slowed down in the middle of the road as if to wait for me to catch him, but decided to drive off again as I got close to him.

Breezer · 13-09-2019 01:19AM

Utter Consternation wrote: »

That's top class. A lover of cycling, but not of cyclists.

I nearly got taken out by a learner driver here on Tuesday evening. I was going straight on when the lights had changed and they shot up from behind me and nearly left hooked me. I'd to slam on the brakes. She nearly knocked myself and another cyclist off.

Cheeky dope beeped at me too as if it was my fault.

I always move well out at that junction. And coming the opposite way you've to watch for cars left hooking you through a straight ahead arrow and green man. I've even seen car drivers beeping each other aggressively for not doing that! :eek:

Mind you, I've also nearly been taken out of it there on multiple occasions by muppet cyclists who decide only one of the two sets of red lights inbound applies to them, and that it's perfectly acceptable to cycle at speed through everyone else queueing at the lights. They get stopped at the second set a few metres later, so presumably they do it to avoid the left hookers mentioned above, but it still drives me mental.

Sh1tshow is right.

Utter Consternation · 13-09-2019 10:06AM

Breezer wrote: »

Mind you, I've also nearly been taken out of it there on multiple occasions by muppet cyclists who decide only one of the two sets of red lights inbound applies to them, and that it's perfectly acceptable to cycle at speed through everyone else queueing at the lights. They get stopped at the second set a few metres later, so presumably they do it to avoid the left hookers mentioned above, but it still drives me mental.

Sh1tshow is right.

Yeah, that is a nuaisance on the way into town. I'm careful with my braking at that set of lights. Some cyclists just sail through the first red as if it isn't there.

It's another great spot to nearly get left hooked!

TooObvious · 13-09-2019 11:07AM

I got squeezed at the junction of Cork St. and Marrowbone Lane. Tipping along the bike lane, note small bus coming into bus lane slightly ahead of me, no indicator but fine, the light ahead is red as the driver moves slightly into the cycle lane - no problem I think, the light is red, he'll have to stop and there's room between the lane and the parking on the left to cycle through to the front easily. Move towards the inside of the bus (he's still partly in my lane), when the driver decides just to pull in without indicating into the parking bay, I pull on the brakes and belt the side of the bus. I hit it hard, the driver stopped and let a yelp at me, que lots of cussing and arm waving from me etc.

Possibly partly my fault, I'm not sure, I cycle a lot and I felt at the time I was well within my rights to be pissed off with the bus driver. I could have maybe braked and gone around the RHS as a precaution, instead of taking the cycle lane- but then it's a cycle lane and I should be able to cycle in it safely.

Steoller · 13-09-2019 12:16PM

TooObvious wrote: »

note small bus coming into bus lane slightly ahead of me, no indicator but fine . . . the driver decides just to pull in without indicating into the parking bay

I see a lot of vehicles are being sold without this safety feature. What price is the indicator option? How much could I save on my next car if I do without it, as so many are obviously doing?

13-09-2019 12:21PM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Just after seeing a cyclist on the M4 hard shoulder heading towards Dublin between Jcns 5 & 6.
Idiot!

It never ceases to amaze me, the locations you see some people in with their bikes. I had a dashcam recording of a guy who had cycled on the hard shoulder, against the flow of traffic along the M50 northbound from the M1 exit to the Ballymun exit. He was coming up the entrance sliproad as I was heading down it, but had gotten off so he could push it up the incline. Obviously hadn't the enrgy after cycling into the headwind for those few kilometers. I'll see if i can dig it out.

Near miss: Some clown pulling out of the little parking area at the footbridge in Fairview beside Little Sport. Looks at me and the traffic heading out of town, turns, then pulls out blocking all of the cycle lane and half the bus lane while still looking towards Dollymount. I was a little disappointed that when I jammed on and half-skidded that my pedal didn't make contact with his paintjob. Followed by the usual "hands-in-the-air-what-do-you-want-me-to-do?" expression........There should be a "no right turn" marker there at that junction.

13-09-2019 12:35PM

Can't find the video, but have a screenshot saved

For anyone unfamiliar with this spot, here it is on Google Maps

Steoller · 13-09-2019 01:43PM

Deleted User wrote: »

Can't find the video, but have a screenshot saved

Ah he has his hi-vis on, safe enough so.

Breezer · 13-09-2019 02:46PM

First one in ages today. I'm cycling through Ballymun at a decent pace, heading towards town here. The bus lane beside the cycle lane is far too narrow for a vehicle to pass you safely (among multiple other hazards), so I always take up primary position in the bus lane. Just as well, because the guy behind me had no intention of passing me safely.

I get a toot on the horn, which I ignore. More aggressive horning. I look around just in case it's some sort of emergency vehicle. It's a guy in a minibus pointing angrily at the sign on his bonnet that says 'Minibus.' I point out the not one, but two overtaking lanes available to him. Cue him leaning on the horn for a good 30 or 40 seconds (never mind that the cycle lane he wanted me in is now completely blocked by parked cars). He finally gives up, moves out and attempts a punishment pass which was strangely half hearted (a taxi driver did the same thing with lots of engine revving but not a lot of physical presence). Both of them then join the queue behind a Dublin bus at the lights at DCU, where less than 5 seconds later I pass them out again. I presume when the bus stopped at the bus stop just after your man resumed his horn honking at the bus, since he objects to other drivers using the road legally. I disappeared off into the Friday afternoon sun and didn't see him again. I hope he has a nice weekend, he'll need it at the rate he's going.

Seth Brundle · 13-09-2019 03:47PM

Not me - another one from twitter...
https://twitter.com/aranbrazil/status/1172132728617222144

Stark · 13-09-2019 03:57PM

That almost looked deliberate, given he waited till the last second before pulling in front of the cyclist.

deandean · 13-09-2019 05:52PM

Why did you blank out the number plate?
Name and shame :mad:

magicbastarder · 13-09-2019 05:56PM

Seth Brundle wrote: »

Not me - another one from twitter...

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tnegun · 13-09-2019 07:16PM

Whoever designed these lanes is a muppet the presence of the lane acutally encourages drivers to pass where there is little or no room. Just on the edge of what is comfortable and no reading of the situation from the bus driver what would of happned if the car overshot?

https://streamable.com/tw8dy

Also exactly a week to the day another slip surfer too engrossed with skipping the queue to use their mirrors I could see him in his mirror the whole time he was looking to his right for a spot to cut in

https://streamable.com/7qqrd

Breezer · 13-09-2019 09:28PM

tnegun wrote: »

Whoever designed these lanes is a muppet the presence of the lane acutally encourages drivers to pass where there is little or no room. Just on the edge of what is comfortable and no reading of the situation from the bus driver what would of happned if the car overshot?

Ugh. Agreed. This is what I was getting at above. I'd much prefer no cycle lane to one that's too narrow (or has a bus/general traffic lane beside it that's half the width of a bus/car). At least if there's none there most people realise you have a right to share the road and pass you properly. If there's a cycle lane that you're not using because it's utter b*llocks, people think you're doing something wrong and start acting the clown. And if you use it, they stick to their lane which can barely/can't fit their vehicle and they put you at risk, while believing they've done nothing wrong.

I've been knocked off my bike trying to be a good boy and use these lanes (years ago). They can lean on the horn and blow a gasket all they like, I'm not doing it again.

sy_flembeck · 13-09-2019 10:47PM

tnegun wrote: »

Also exactly a week to the day another slip surfer too engrossed with skipping the queue to use their mirrors I could see him in his mirror the whole time he was looking to his right for a spot to cut in

https://streamable.com/7qqrd

It never ceases to amaze me why other motorists accommodate that level of driving. I can only assume they're not looking around them. If I saw him coming in my mirrors he wouldn't be taking any gap.

Kfagan10 · 13-09-2019 11:39PM

Breezer wrote: »

Ugh. Agreed. This is what I was getting at above. I'd much prefer no cycle lane to one that's too narrow (or has a bus/general traffic lane beside it that's half the width of a bus/car). At least if there's none there most people realise you have a right to share the road and pass you properly. If there's a cycle lane that you're not using because it's utter b*llocks, people think you're doing something wrong and start acting the clown. And if you use it, they stick to their lane which can barely/can't fit their vehicle and they put you at risk, while believing they've done nothing wrong.

I've been knocked off my bike trying to be a good boy and use these lanes (years ago). They can lean on the horn and blow a gasket all they like, I'm not doing it again.

That lane is lethal. Full of chunky rocks and slippy grime. Best move is up the centre so there's no room for close passes. Usually build up decent speed before the up ramp anyway so no reason for drivers to get impatient/lashing the horn out of it.

average_runner · 14-09-2019 08:42AM

sy_flembeck wrote: »

It never ceases to amaze me why other motorists accommodate that level of driving. I can only assume they're not looking around them. If I saw him coming in my mirrors he wouldn't be taking any gap.

I will.always block them off unless its a genuine mistake

Thinkingaboutit · 14-09-2019 02:27PM

Breezer wrote: »

Ugh. Agreed. This is what I was getting at above. I'd much prefer no cycle lane to one that's too narrow (or has a bus/general traffic lane beside it that's half the width of a bus/car). At least if there's none there most people realise you have a right to share the road and pass you properly. If there's a cycle lane that you're not using because it's utter b*llocks, people think you're doing something wrong and start acting the clown. And if you use it, they stick to their lane which can barely/can't fit their vehicle and they put you at risk, while believing they've done nothing wrong.

I've been knocked off my bike trying to be a good boy and use these lanes (years ago). They can lean on the horn and blow a gasket all they like, I'm not doing it again.

At the same time though, quite possibly unstable people like that are in a big metal box, I'm on a bicycle. Being in the right doesn't guarantee safety.

Effects · 14-09-2019 02:44PM

Was almost doored while cycling through Bray yesterday evening. Then 150m up the road it almost happened again!

Seth Brundle · 14-09-2019 03:46PM

Effects wrote: »

Was almost doored while cycling through Bray yesterday evening. Then 150m up the road it almost happened again!

I always aim to keep a safe distance from any parked car for this reason

Effects · 14-09-2019 03:49PM

So do I, most of the time. I had enough clearance that a quick, small swerve meant I was safe.
The second one was someone exiting a car in traffic while I was filtering.

magicbastarder · 14-09-2019 06:04PM

on a reasonably narrow country road earlier, a chap in a black audi decided to gun it when i stuck my hand out in an abrupt 'don't ****ing well pass me' gesture, because i could see the oncoming tractor and he couldn't. he actually squirreled a bit under braking, he had to brake so hard. i'd say he'd have barely dented the tractor, and in a way i wish he had hit it. what a dope.

Breezer · 14-09-2019 11:27PM

Thinkingaboutit wrote: »

At the same time though, quite possibly unstable people like that are in a big metal box, I'm on a bicycle. Being in the right doesn't guarantee safety.

What would have happened if I’d moved over? He’d have flown past me with little to no room to spare. Like I said, this is how I got knocked off my bike before. What I did prevented me from coming into contact with an unstable person in a big metal box.

Duckjob · 15-09-2019 09:04AM

Breezer wrote: »

What would have happened if I’d moved over? He’d have flown past me with little to no room to spare. Like I said, this is how I got knocked off my bike before. What I did prevented me from coming into contact with an unstable person in a big metal box.

I'd do the same.

That said It's a pretty sad reflection on the general mentality and sophistication of Irish drivers when, as someone on a bike you have to weigh up the relative danger of leaving space and being buzzed by careless/hostile drivers or taking the lane and getting possibly getting milled out of it by one of the more psychopathic ones.

AndrewJRenko · 15-09-2019 10:32AM

Thinkingaboutit wrote: »

At the same time though, quite possibly unstable people like that are in a big metal box, I'm on a bicycle. Being in the right doesn't guarantee safety.

Riding in the gutter certainly doesn't guarantee safety - it encourages dangerous overtakes.

magicbastarder · 15-09-2019 06:36PM

magicbastarder wrote: »

on a reasonably narrow country road earlier, a chap in a black audi decided to gun it when i stuck my hand out in an abrupt 'don't ****ing well pass me' gesture, because i could see the oncoming tractor and he couldn't. he actually squirreled a bit under braking, he had to brake so hard. i'd say he'd have barely dented the tractor, and in a way i wish he had hit it. what a dope.

looking at strava, i think this happened a minute or two after i passed koutoubia (or who i think is koutoubia) going in the opposite direction - was on the road that runs behind sam dennigan's, up to the old graveyard near the oldtown/naul road.

Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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