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  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,531 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I think the government has to publish the withdrawal bill. I don't know what that means yet.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators Posts: 95,466 Mod ✭✭✭✭Capt'n Midnight


    *gets* popcorn

    Boris wants an election


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭ath262


    he's trying to goad Corbyn ....


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,531 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    I'm shocked at how brazen he is. He's saying that negotiations have been scuppered by the House.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,647 ✭✭✭gooch2k9


    Framing it as a Johnson v Corbyn election.

    The dereliction of duty line won't go down well though.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,299 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Blocking brexit ? Yet Boris Johnson voted against the withdrawal agreement which if they had voted for it they may be out now. Corbyn giving some credit to Theresa May.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,263 ✭✭✭✭Frank Bullitt


    So election time?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    I have no idea what is going on, but is it possible that Johnson is planning to bring the WA back, maybe with the NI only backstop with the caveat that he ain't asking for an extension?

    That certainly was no mistake on the vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,318 ✭✭✭✭briany


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Stop the negotiations ? They haven't been any Boris FFS.

    Precisely. He was negotiating by not going to Brussels. Now that negotiations have ended, he will go to Brussels. He's the backwards man, the backwards man.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭Notmything


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Stop the negotiations ? They haven't been any Boris FFS.

    Yeah, but it gives him an out, and somewhere to point the finger of blame at.

    He's playing to his supporters, not the public


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,367 ✭✭✭Patser


    Could the Kinnock/teller thing simply be indicative of a Tory party in disarray or is there some elaborate trap set by it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Blocking brexit ? Yet Boris Johnson voted against the withdrawal agreement which if they had voted for it they may be out now. Corbyn giving some credit to Theresa May.

    Johnson also voted for it on MV3


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,299 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Patser wrote: »
    Could the Kinnock/teller thing simply be indicative of a Tory party in disarray or is there some elaborate trap set by it.

    What kinnock thing ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,299 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Johnson also voted for it on MV3

    Yeah at the third time of asking and you'd wonder did he really agree with the WA.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,132 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    An amendment to bring the May deal to another HoC vote as a way of justifying an extension request. It was added unchallenged.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,055 ✭✭✭✭retalivity


    Corbyn sounding very statesmanlike


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 251 ✭✭ath262


    Corbyn & Labour will resist this election and either abstain or vote no - must be tough for then after looking for election for so long


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭sjb25


    Come on Ken legend


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 45,643 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Nice Guy


    Hard to believe this parliament was regarded as an inspiration to other democracies. Total circus now. Johnson himself even described the status quo as a "mess".


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,299 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Oh Kenneth Clarke not holding back.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,863 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    sjb25 wrote: »
    Come on Ken legend

    what stingers by Ken


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,105 ✭✭✭✭Leroy42


    OK, apparently the Kinnock amendment simply gives a reason for the UK asking for an extension, with that reason being that it would be to give time to the HoC to pass the WA, or a version of it.

    So basically it means nothing at all in real terms


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,417 ✭✭✭sjb25


    Headshot wrote: »
    what stingers by Ken

    He's brilliant need somebody like him over here :)


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 42,531 CMod ✭✭✭✭ancapailldorcha


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    OK, apparently the Kinnock amendment simply gives a reason for the UK asking for an extension, with that reason being that it would be to give time to the HoC to pass the WA, or a version of it.

    So basically it means nothing at all in real terms

    It should not matter. A general election is inevitable. We just need to prevent a no-deal exit in the meantime.

    The foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born. Love them as yourself, for you were foreigners in Egypt. I am the LORD your God.

    Leviticus 19:34



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,225 ✭✭✭✭Thargor


    He got pummeled there.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,450 ✭✭✭✭Akrasia


    The Kinnock gambit is actually very devious. It’s designed to split the anti Boris pact into those who oppose the WA and want a 2nd referendum and those who want to brexit and would be happy with the WA.

    While these two camps are fighting amongst themselves Boris can sleep walk them again towards No Deal

    Chomsky(2017) on the Republican party

    "Has there ever been an organisation in human history that is dedicated, with such commitment, to the destruction of organised human life on Earth?"



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,863 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    This Brexit stuff is better than the last season of GOT

    It's thrilling stuff


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,299 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    IDS sitting next to Kenneth Clarke with a big thick head on him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,318 ✭✭✭✭briany


    ath262 wrote: »
    Corbyn & Labour will resist this election and either abstain or vote no - must be tough for then after looking for election for so long

    According the the Guardian, Corbyn won't vote for a snap election unless no-deal is unequivocally ruled out. That way, it doesn't matter of Boris tries to move the GE date beyond 31/10, or even if the GE returned a Conservative majority.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,445 ✭✭✭BluePlanet


    if the UK can't sign up to a backstop that gives them no say but want to leave and can't then they surely can bring the EU to its knees to the point they are begged to leave
    Just yesterday you were celebrating BoJo's great maneuvering and that this was all part of some great plan.

    Today you're looking around for any possible spanner to throw, what changed?


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