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  • 03-09-2019 7:44pm
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    hesker
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    Will be taking this up with the builder. But interested to hear what if any regs this might violate apart from it being just plain stupid.

    I have been told a reci cert will be provided at completion.

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    Risteard81
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    It might help if you were to tell us what precisely it is that you are objecting to?


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    hesker
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    Is it not unsafe to put a socket directly under a window board where there might be condensation run off.

    Is it not pretty stupid to place sockets where you would expect curtains to be hung.

    There is ample room to the right.


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    Bruthal
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    Bit random with the leveling as well.


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    lawred2
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    That looks awful


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    Risteard81
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    Bruthal wrote: »
    Bit random with the leveling as well.

    Agreed, but clearly that wasn't the issue at stake.


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    bunderoon
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    Judging by that, I'd be concerned with other parts of the house and the stuff you can't see.
    That's lazy as hell.


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    Sleeper12
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    hesker wrote:
    Is it not unsafe to put a socket directly under a window board where there might be condensation run off.


    Do you get condensation on modern windows?

    I'd be more concerned about curtains covering a phone charger plugged in than condensation.

    I have no idea what the wiring regulations say about it


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    washman3
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    I hope whoever did this has now retired...:eek:


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    Bruthal
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    On a related possible pointer, for multiple socket back boxes in a line going onto brick, length of 2x1 wood, screwed up level, sit back boxes on it before drilling into brick.


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    [Deleted User]
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    Awful craftsmanship


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    Bruthal
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    BrownFinger wrote: »
    Awful craftsmanship

    I remember a poster saying that leveling the box screws was ocd before. But from what ye see these days, installing level and neat seems to be ocd for many as well.


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    hesker
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    So does it breach any regs?

    I’m referring to the location of the socket on the left but none are great.


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    Risteard81
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    Bruthal wrote: »
    I remember a poster saying that leveling the box screws was ocd before.
    It's not that unusual. Even some specifications require the screw heads to be parallel.


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    Bruthal
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    Risteard81 wrote: »
    It's not that unusual. Even some specifications require the screw heads to be parallel.

    Well i didnt actually agree with the opinion myself. Its something I do.


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    Bruthal
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    hesker wrote: »
    So does it breach any regs?

    I’m referring to the location of the socket on the left but none are great.

    I dont think it does. But I wouldnt put them there myself.


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    Aint Eazy Being Cheezy
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    Risteard81 wrote: »
    It's not that unusual. Even some specifications require the screw heads to be parallel.

    Dublin Airport terminal 2. All socket screwheads to be left parallel :eek:


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    maxamillius
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    Doesn’t breach any regs but it’s a terrible position to place sockets.

    Did you give the electrician free run to place sockets/switches wherever they saw fit? Or did you give any indication as to where you would like them?


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    keithdub
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    I have put them at that height before to be used above a desk


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    hesker
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    maxamillius wrote: »
    Doesn’t breach any regs but it’s a terrible position to place sockets.

    Did you give the electrician free run to place sockets/switches wherever they saw fit? Or did you give any indication as to where you would like them?

    It’s part of a refit. Same number of sockets being installed after new plasteboard fitted. Old locations were perfect.

    No I didn’t spell out exact location but I didn’t expect him to pick a completely stupid location either. More fool me.

    Was hoping there was a reg breach in case builder wants to argue.

    But jeez almighty you shouldn’t have to spell out this stuff for what should be routine work.


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    Risteard81
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    hesker wrote: »
    It’s part of a refit. Same number of sockets being installed after new plasteboard fitted. Old locations were perfect.

    No I didn’t spell out exact location but I didn’t expect him to pick a completely stupid location either. More fool me.

    Was hoping there was a reg breach in case builder wants to argue.

    But jeez almighty you shouldn’t have to spell out this stuff for what should be routine work.

    If you didn't agree locations beforehand then frankly I believe the blame is very largely with you.


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    maxamillius
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    To be fair regardless of weather or not you have him the locations I (Being an electrician) would still never have put them in that position. Common sense should have prevailed here


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    Steve
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    At least he used a pencil to draw a line before carefully creating the opening in the plasterboard with a hammer...

    Good thing he paid his REC tax so all is ok. :mad:

    I'd be fuming with that workmanship.


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    Risteard81
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    Bruthal wrote: »
    Well i didnt actually agree with the opinion myself. Its something I do.

    As do I.


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    Risteard81
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    maxamillius wrote: »
    To be fair regardless of weather or not you have him the locations I (Being an electrician) would still never have put them in that position. Common sense should have prevailed here

    Most wouldn't I would hope. But if the OP never bothered to agree where things should go then it's a bit rich to blame everyone else after the fact.

    I think they're both at fault.


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    Stoner
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    Risteard81 wrote:
    As do I.


    I got lashed here years ago for suggesting same.

    I'm still recovering from it.


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    Effects
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    Should you not have caught this earlier on in the build stage?

    On my own build, after marking socket placements up for my electrician, the builder did the chasing really badly.
    Electrician didn't care, just put the sockets on as quick as he could.
    Had a major falling out over it and got "barred" from the site for a while.


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    Gashmuncher
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    hesker wrote: »
    Will be taking this up with the builder. But interested to hear what if any regs this might violate apart from it being just plain stupid.

    I have been told a reci cert will be provided at completion.

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    Have a look at page 11 here
    https://safeelectric.ie/contractors/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2018/09/2016may_news.pdf
    Rule 554.1.1. Particularly the height limit for general purpose sockets.
    The top surface of the sockets should not exceed 1200mm.
    Also check electrical contractor is listed on the register here https://safeelectric.ie/find-an-electrician/


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    [Deleted User]
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    That's lower than 1200


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    lawred2
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    Risteard81 wrote: »
    Most wouldn't I would hope. But if the OP never bothered to agree where things should go then it's a bit rich to blame everyone else after the fact.

    I think they're both at fault.

    Hmm you'd expect a professional to have a bit more kop on really. Bit much to try to share the blame for quite clearly substandard workmanship.


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    Always Tired
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    Risteard81 wrote: »
    Most wouldn't I would hope. But if the OP never bothered to agree where things should go then it's a bit rich to blame everyone else after the fact.

    I think they're both at fault.

    So if a socket was put on the ceiling then it would be the OPs fault for not specifically saying no ceiling sockets? Cuz I can hardly think of a worse place to put a socket besides an inch under a windowsill. The whole thing looks awful, it's not even my gaff and I want to rip it all out.


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