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sondagefaux · 03-09-2019 10:19PM

sdanseo wrote: »

No, needs 2/3 majority for it (which he will get with labour whip under Corbyn forced to vote for it and the Tories confident they could win)

Or alternatively a motion of no confidence in the Government which Corbyn will put down if the above does not happen.

No, and no.

Corbyn says Labour will not back early election motion unless bill ruling out no-deal passed first

Jeremy Corbyn says, if Johnson wants an election, he must get the bill passed first.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/03/commons-showdown-looms-in-battle-over-no-deal-brexit-live#5d6ecae58f0845a5dab7cc4d

ath262 · 03-09-2019 10:19PM

Lame Duck Prime Minister coming up soon - no majority let alone 66% so they should be able to hold off election under FTPA, if the Gov. tries to force a 1 liner temp Election motion overridng FTPA they should be able to resist that also ..... just. The alliance will work on avoiding the no-deal brexit on then 31st, force Boris to ask for extension, or form temporary unity Gov.

BASHIR · 03-09-2019 10:20PM

That Brexit party vote in euros election will surely all go to tories now with Farage Boris axis?

Harry Palmr · 03-09-2019 10:20PM

I'm watching BBC Parliament - gavel to gavel!

Anna Soubry just raised a point about the Conservative Party - that everyone who voted Aye will have the whip removed.

Nicky Morgan resigned from Treasury Committee, not sure if that portends

bilston · 03-09-2019 10:21PM

Looks like 21 Tory MPs voted against the government. I guess they are losing the whip.

sdanseo · 03-09-2019 10:21PM

sondagefaux wrote: »

No, and no.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2019/sep/03/commons-showdown-looms-in-battle-over-no-deal-brexit-live#5d6ecae58f0845a5dab7cc4d

Larbre34 wrote: »

Ginger, get the popcorn.

If I were to pick an outcome I'd say national unity government under a temporary PM, Labour won't vote for an election while Brexit remains a fight.

Nuanced referendum, maybe multi-stage to give sovereignty to the people.

This is the best solution but will Corbyn allow it?

SNP in favour of soonest possible election due to recent resignation of Scottish Tory leader. They would be headed for almost all seats in Scotland.

Corbyn in favour of soonest election because he is pathetic and knows he may well never get another shot.

Lib Dems in favour of an election because they have all of 15 seats.

Tories, hell, in favour because the above three will dilute the opposition vote.

declanflynn · 03-09-2019 10:21PM

Jrm looks like a drowning man

A Dub in Glasgo · 03-09-2019 10:21PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

lol... yep.

Every programme director knows to move one when he waddles up

You are missing out then

bilston · 03-09-2019 10:21PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

I'm watching BBC Parliament - gavel to gavel!

Anna Soubry just raised a point about the Conservative Party - that everyone who voted Aye will have the whip removed.

Including Nicholas Soames. And we all thought Johnson thought he was the modern version of Churchill.

BoJack Horseman · 03-09-2019 10:23PM

InTheShadows wrote: »

Nope he's walked these clowns right into it. The public aren't sending Corbyn to Brussels. It's over. No deal inevitable.

That isn't how it works.

BoJo is going to a general election having failed to do the one thing he promised to do

The British people would be literally mad to elect the lying Tories yet again.

Their fight isn't with labour.
The threat to the Tories is as always in suburban England where they have massive crossover with the Lib Dems
Then there is the Farage Party hoovering up the vital few percent of rural Tories.

If there is an election before Oct 31'st, Jezza will be PM.
And he'll be there on 1/3rd of the vote.

Thargor · 03-09-2019 10:23PM

bilston wrote: »

Looks like 21 Tory MPs voted against the government. I guess they are losing the whip.

Nobody talking about this, its absolutely massive news!

BorneTobyWilde · 03-09-2019 10:23PM

TimeToShine wrote: »

This is absolutely fantastic TV, this will make an amazing series in 20 years!

And they still won't have left

thecretinhop · 03-09-2019 10:23PM

bilston wrote: »

Looks like 21 Tory MPs voted against the government. I guess they are losing the whip.

Brussels will be kind to dem. $$$

gooch2k9 · 03-09-2019 10:23PM

Former Con MP on Sky saying Johnson went to the country saying he'd get out of EU by 31st of October. That's not true, he went to Conservative membership with that.

InTheShadows · 03-09-2019 10:24PM

Limpy wrote: »

Agreed.. I think he Will be the one going to Brussels.

Labour have screwed the remoaners by keeping Corbyn in. If they had replaced him with someone competent when they had the chance they could have overthrown the democratic will of the public.

bilston · 03-09-2019 10:24PM

Great stat on Twitter.

Jacob Rees Mogg has rebelled against the Tory whip about 100 times in 9 years.

David Gauke has done it once in 14 years.

JRM is now in cabinet, Gauke is to lose the whip...it sums up the state of the Tories.

Degag · 03-09-2019 10:24PM

Just have to say John Bercow is an absolute legend!!

Imreoir2 · 03-09-2019 10:25PM

thecretinhop wrote: »

Brussels will be kind to dem. $$$

Are you suggesting that MPs who voted against their own government, knowing that they would face losing their party whip and the threat of deselection at the next GE did so for personal gain? If that is your opinion, I suggest that it is rather ill considered.

declanflynn · 03-09-2019 10:25PM

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

TimeToShine wrote: »

This is absolutely fantastic TV, this will make an amazing series in 20 years!

And they still won't have left

It's the best british soap opera/comedy ever

bilston · 03-09-2019 10:26PM

We are about to see a purge of Pro European Tory MPs. The Conservatives as we know them are finished.

4Ad · 03-09-2019 10:26PM

Shook looking, condescending snob !

L1011 · 03-09-2019 10:26PM

InTheShadows wrote: »

Nope he's walked these clowns right into it. The public aren't sending Corbyn to Brussels. It's over. No deal inevitable.

He has no power to call an election. He has no majority. He is now effectively powerless.

The FTPA won't pass unless there's a No Deal block through; so his only other options are to lose a vote of no confidence and hope they don't get a caretaker Government in; or just hold on for dear hope - including dear hope that the courts don't overturn the proroguing.

A Dub in Glasgo · 03-09-2019 10:26PM

Leadsom now saying on the BBC that the Tory MPs get another chance tomorrow, whip to remain for the moment

InTheShadows · 03-09-2019 10:27PM

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

That isn't how it works.

BoJo is going to a general election having failed to do the one thing he promised to do

The British people would be literally mad to elect the lying Tories yet again.

Their fight isn't with labour.
The threat to the Tories is as always in suburban England where they have massive crossover with the Lib Dems
Then there is the Farage Party hoovering up the vital few percent of rural Tories.

If there is an election before Oct 31'st, Jezza will be PM.
And he'll be there on 1/3rd of the vote.

Step away from the keyboard and get some sleep. Corbyn has zero chance of becoming PM.

declanflynn · 03-09-2019 10:27PM

InTheShadows wrote: »

Limpy wrote: »

Agreed.. I think he Will be the one going to Brussels.

Labour have screwed the remoaners by keeping Corbyn in. If they had replaced him with someone competent when they had the chance they could have overthrown the democratic will of the public.

Tories are finished

thecretinhop · 03-09-2019 10:27PM

Imreoir2 wrote: »

Are you suggesting that MPs who voted against their own government, knowing that they would face losing their party whip and the threat of deselection at the next GE did so for personal gain? If that is your opinion, I suggest that it is rather ill considered.

nope. not at all. joe duffy Expunged

Leroy42 · 03-09-2019 10:27PM

So what happens if Labour don't vote for a GE? Johnson will have lost 2 votes out of two, will have lost his majority and could well be faced with having to ask for, and accept if provided, an extension to BRexit.

declanflynn · 03-09-2019 10:27PM

InTheShadows wrote: »

BoJack Horseman wrote: »

That isn't how it works.

BoJo is going to a general election having failed to do the one thing he promised to do

The British people would be literally mad to elect the lying Tories yet again.

Their fight isn't with labour.
The threat to the Tories is as always in suburban England where they have massive crossover with the Lib Dems
Then there is the Farage Party hoovering up the vital few percent of rural Tories.

If there is an election before Oct 31'st, Jezza will be PM.
And he'll be there on 1/3rd of the vote.

Step away from the keyboard and get some sleep. Corbyn has zero chance of becoming PM.

He just whipped depaffell's ass

Popeleo · 03-09-2019 10:28PM

bilston wrote: »

Including Nicholas Soames. And we all thought Johnson thought he was the modern version of Churchill.

A chancer like Boris kicking Churchill's grandson out of the Tory party. Sums up Brexit, really.

gmisk · 03-09-2019 10:29PM

Christ Andrea Leadsom is useless

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