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Brexit discussion thread X (Please read OP before posting)

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,907 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Well done Tom Brake for calling out JRM

    disgraceful behavior


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    This isn't a "pineapple on pizza; delicious or disgusting?" kind of thing. It's more of a "setting my terraced house on fire because of a spider; good idea or bad idea?" kind of a thing.

    hmmm
    for the record
    i hate the tories
    i hate the EU
    i hate ff fg lab sf etc

    so more like my house is infested with rats (ff fg)
    my roof has been loaned out for 2m euro (eu)
    my land has been seized by absentee landlord aka 1750 (tories)
    i wear glasses i must die (lab Corbyn)

    I just see the worst evil EU being weakened. dat is all. carry on.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,069 ✭✭✭boggerman1


    That blond haired woman on sky news is an odious piece of work.Campbell has being knocking 7 shades of sh*ye out of her and she is still full of unicorns and bigly trade deals outside of EU


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,699 ✭✭✭thecretinhop


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    That blond haired woman on sky news is an odious piece of work.Campbell has being knocking 7 shades of sh*ye out of her and she is still full of unicorns and bigly trade deals outside of EU

    allister de hero. go tell de iraqi people and tony blair


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 23,175 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    boggerman1 wrote: »
    That blond haired woman on sky news is an odious piece of work.Campbell has being knocking 7 shades of sh*ye out of her and she is still full of unicorns and bigly trade deals outside of EU

    Isabel Oakshott is it?

    Not watching Sky but the description fits. (Arron Banks's partner/GF/muse I believe)


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,197 ✭✭✭trellheim


    What time is the debate being moved to a vote on the motion ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,887 ✭✭✭✭For Forks Sake


    A Scottish Conservative, they're going to be a rare breed after the next election..


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,054 ✭✭✭dublinman1990


    Sorry but that record majority vote line does tend to get on my wick a bit and i must have heard it mentioned at least 10 times over the past couple of days alone. When people say the biggest vote ever voted to leave the EU, it conveniently omits the equally relevant fact that the second biggest vote ever voted to remain in the EU. It was 52-48, a slim majority, not the unambiguous, huge mandate they seek to imply.

    Well tbf; I do agree with you 100% that it was not a record majority. I should have put the word record in quotes because that result of that 1st referendum was nowhere near a 'record' majority. If the UK had written up & passed the special legislation in parliament to have another referendum on a potential No-Deal Brexit. The next result of that referendum, depending on what question is asked from it, could command a much higher & historic majority among the British public to either vote for one of two potential options of the staying in the EU along with 'No Deal' or 'Leave' & that is either 'No Brexit' or 'Remain'.

    But observing this outcome is all dependent if the Tories & BJ are kicked out of the vote in the next snap GE.

    I am not sure whether the original WA comes into play again into British politics at all when the UK is teetering close to a No-Deal scenario at this current time. If you heard Nigel Farage's comment about the BP fighting for every seat in the GE against the Tories. That will give big opportunities for Farage to dilute BJ's majority in the British Parliament.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Undermine this prime minister ? He's doing that himself without any help.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    A Tory MP talking about arrogance ? Ah lads it's a spitting image sketch.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,010 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    Leroy42 wrote: »
    Very interesting tweets from Robert Peston.

    https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1168981967469256704

    Saying that, if vote lost tonight, Johnson would accept it and use that to force Labour into agreeing to GE. He wins he election, on a NO Deal manifesto, and his majority can overturn the legislation and they leave on 31st.

    Jebus, the whole thing is a total mess.


    If he wants to run on a no-deal platform then he will need to tell the people what it will mean. I am sure they will try to deny it but looking at how it is being leaked all the time and reports like below it will take some misinformation campaign to get away with it again.

    Don’t buy the bluff. Here’s the truth about no-deal Brexit

    So let him run on no-deal and if the other parties are not able to call him out and he wins a majority, then so be it. At least there will be clarity for the EU and we can start focusing on no-deal mitigation rather than hoping for sense to prevail.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    The DUP lady seemed genuinely terrified that a no deal dramatically increases the likelihood of a border poll which could be successful.
    By extrapolation, that means No Deal makes a wholesale breakup of the union more likely.

    Is no deal a win win for Nationalists in the long term?
    Accelerates a UI by potentially decades


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    trellheim wrote: »
    What time is the debate being moved to a vote on the motion ?

    About 10pm or thereabouts.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 73,421 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    A Scottish Conservative, they're going to be a rare breed after the next election..

    59/59 has to be somewhat within sight for the SNP. One of the prime reasons I'd have avoided Swinson as leader of the Lib Dems (the other being that she's effectively an Orangey Yellow Tory; but then again that might be whats needed now...)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    No deal has not been examined ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    How can Sheep farmers to readjust to exactly ?


  • Administrators Posts: 55,209 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭awec


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    How can Sheep farmers to readjust to exactly ?

    John Baron is an insufferable blowhard.

    He means that sheep farmers can be paid off to shut up.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Mogg getting called out by everyone now

    He doesn't care, he is playing the game of the toff who to him, everyone else is just flotsam and jetsam, and oh so utterly boring too. He's flipping the bird in a toff way by lying prone on the benches. Ah well.

    He will survive also. Maybe he will be revered too for his nonchalance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,132 ✭✭✭✭Spanish Eyes


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    About 10pm or thereabouts.

    The way this is going, unless the Speaker culls the debate it may be much later. But who knows.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,116 ✭✭✭bazermc


    Division!!!!!!!

    I love it.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,435 ✭✭✭Imreoir2


    Well that put a stop to that then. Division.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭ath262


    is debate finished ?
    lots of MPs milling around....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    Right here we go. So how do we think it will go ?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    ath262 wrote: »
    is debate finished ?
    lots of MPs milling around....

    Yes they are now going to vote.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 252 ✭✭ath262


    LauraK reckoned 17 Tory rebels


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,086 ✭✭✭theguzman


    And we thought Game of Thrones was bad but Brexit has given us some bizarre parody of it tonight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2, Paid Member Posts: 9,276 ✭✭✭sdanseo


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Right here we go. So how do we think it will go ?

    At a guess, 360-280 or something like that.

    It won't be tight.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,567 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Itssoeasy wrote: »
    Right here we go. So how do we think it will go ?

    Tight win for the motion according to pundits on BBC and SKY.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,318 ✭✭✭✭Itssoeasy


    ath262 wrote: »
    LauraK reckoned 17 Tory rebels

    What was the number that needed to vote against for it to pass ?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 724 ✭✭✭InTheShadows


    An election is a disaster for the remoaners.


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