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Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

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  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,039 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Mother of God, the traffic is mental again, today is obviously the start back day for most school kids, it had been busier but not as bad earlier in the week. I imagine it will settle a bit and then the universities will start the week after where the full insanity will set in.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 957 ✭✭✭tommythecat


    FFS. Two in Two days and I very rarely get a crappy pass anymore.
    Yesterday, 100 metres from the junction of Kennilworth road and Grosvenor Pl with traffic in front of me and cars parked in the left, I am fully in the centre of the lane keeping pace as we slow to the junction. I hear a big acceleration behind me and I pull further right to show i am using the lane so I am now pretty much middle of the road. Still the acceleration. We are practically at the junction now. I stick my arm out as the taxi on the wrong side of the road, speeding into a blind junction flys by me. Anything could have been coming around that corner which would have meant I was toast. I won't go into the words we exchanged, needless to say the professional driver didn't see anything wrong.

    Just now on Leinster road. I am in the centre of the lane as I don't want to be doored and there is a slower cyclist ahead of me. A car is coming in the opposite direction. Next thing a guy with a learner permit passes me and doesn't make it past the next guy but pulls in on top of him and just squeezes by only to indicate and pull in ( I kid you not) 25 metres later to drop the kid to school.
    Apparently I was holding him up for the last fifteen minutes. (I am three minutes into my cycle at this stage) So he felt it was ok to risk everyones safety.
    I am absolutley raging here. I have been cycling in Dublin for over 12 years, (when I wouldn't see another cyclist from one day to the next) and they are by far the worst passes I have ever encountered (the taxi driver for sure)

    4kwp South East facing PV System. 5.3kwh Weco battery. South Dublin City.



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,585 ✭✭✭hesker


    That’s mental. I’d be reporting both of those.

    Did you get to speak with the other cyclist.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,067 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Dreadful to see cyclists terrorising pedestrians again down at oul Sam Beckett

    https://streamable.com/hadcp


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,573 ✭✭✭TheChizler


    Dreadful to see cyclists terrorising pedestrians again down at oul Sam Beckett

    https://streamable.com/hadcp

    Close pass at 0:08 ;)


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  • Posts: 13,106 ✭✭✭✭ Avery Tangy Pedestal


    I need to stop reading this thread. Just feel my blood pressure rising with each post.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,201 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Dreadful to see cyclists terrorising pedestrians again down at oul Sam Beckett

    https://streamable.com/hadcp

    The most surprising thing about that clip was the Swords Express didn't do anything out of order :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Three of us out today, around the naul and stamullen. Plenty of considerate passing. Even got a friendly toot and a wave from two motorists when we singled up on some of the narrower country roads..

    All undone when I was alone on my way from Clonee home to Carpenterstown. Horrible road from clonee to ongar - some crazy overtaking, across the continuous line. Several oncoming drivers had to almost stop to allow the overtake to complete, some flashed. Crazy stuff for a Sunday morning, everyone in a rush to get no where


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,067 ✭✭✭✭AndrewJRenko


    Unfortunately, I didn't catch the cyclist's approach on camera, but he seemed fairly pi$$ed at the right turning car cutting across him.

    https://streamable.com/4tvtl


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,861 ✭✭✭Duckjob


    im just wondering whether or not the guy on the escooter got pulled over by the Garda car on his heels.


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  • Moderators, Technology & Internet Moderators, Regional South East Moderators Posts: 28,574 Mod ✭✭✭✭Cabaal


    Duckjob wrote: »
    im just wondering whether or not the guy on the escooter got pulled over by the Garda car on his heels.

    Had that thought well, be he didn't


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Cabaal wrote: »
    Had that thought well, be he didn't
    Trying to figure out what accent to read that in.
    Pirate seems to be the best!


  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Had what I felt was a very dangerous pass this evening on the Ballyowen Rd. I was cycling the bus lane, taking the lane due to the wet weather.
    A car came up behind avoiding the normal wet weather queues and I pointed towards right indicating for them to get in the correct lane; they simply beeped their horn and pointed to their left telling me to get into the cycle lane.
    I stayed put anyhow as I wasn't going to be bullied out of his way.
    For about 150m he revved his engine as he travelled behind me.
    Lo and behold, the revs increases and got closer. Knowing what he was at I looked to my right and the prick was comung up to squeeze past. He was inches from behind me and I knew that if I stayed on my line I'd be in an ambulance. I pulled to my left and there was inches between us, his mirror taking much of that up.
    He sped on ahead leaving me to slow down for a red light at the Penny Hill jcn (green for him).
    I pulled over and wrote down his reg into a text message and continued on.
    Further on at the queue for the N4, there he was. I cycled in front of him and told him that I was going straight to the gardai. He looked up from his phone, said something as I was leaving and gave the obligatory F-you beep as I left.
    I popped into my local garda station and the gardai will give him a warning.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,780 ✭✭✭Pinch Flat


    Plenty of this type of intimidation goes on at the quays, especially the south ones from O’connell bridge to Parliament street bridge. Taxi drivers up your ass, revving and sometimes beeping in the bus / bike lane, even when the lane beside is free. For some reason, I get an instant urge to freewheel, look down and see where the problem is with my bike that the beeps are alerting me to.....


  • Posts: 5,854 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I was overtaken here yesterday morning, except there were even more cars parked along either side of the road. She wasn't hanging about either, I could hear the car coming and I actually was bracing for an impact.

    In fairness to the prick in the Passat though, she did get to the traffic lights nearly two seconds quicker then she would having waiting behind me.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,920 ✭✭✭micar


    Idiotic overtake of a cyclist around 7pm.

    Am heading along road with cyclist coming opposite direction. Car behind him.

    Car decides to start over taking as I approach.

    Had completely stop to avoided a head on collision.

    As the car passed, I raised both hands in the air with a WTF look.

    90 Shanliss Way
    https://maps.app.goo.gl/484zoGMXZTcq3adJ6


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,507 ✭✭✭DaveyDave


    I've had a number of close calls while driving recently. 3 in the last week, cyclists not looking before moving out right in front of me.

    Going up Patrick St on Saturday night at the traffic lights where it goes into 3 lanes, I'm heading for the first lane but a cyclist moves out from the bike lane to pass someone. No lights, no shoulder check and no hand signal. Had to swerve around him or he would have just went straight into the car (Middle lane was empty, wouldn't normally swerve but didn't fancy dropping the anchor)

    Driving home from work on Monday evening, coming up from Lucan village on the road towards Woodies a cyclist went from the path out onto the road as I was approaching. Lane is narrow enough so cars are close to the curb until the bus lane starts. Again no check, just straight onto the road.

    Going down Rathgar Road on Sunday, a woman moved out to pass a parked car in the bike lane (not in operation). I slowed down because it was obvious but average motorist wouldn't have the foresight.

    Shocking really, I couldn't imagine changing lanes without looking knowing there's traffic. Last thing I went is to swerve in front of a 1,500kg object at 50kph.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 295 ✭✭TooObvious


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    I slowed down because it was obvious but average motorist wouldn't have the foresight.

    Thank God you're such a great driver Davey Dave!


  • Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 26,039 Mod ✭✭✭✭CramCycle


    Indeed, here was me driving around with the attitude that everyone else was an idiot, pedestrian, cyclist and motorist and prepared to act accordingly.

    On a more serious note, the very last point (Rathgar Road point), it is the exact thing that every motorists should expect and I would be worried if the didn't. Be they Ped, Cylist or motorist, if there is an obstruction, I expect them to move out and adjust my driving/cycling/walking accordingly. Only a complete muppet wouldn't, congrats Dave, your not a complete muppet.

    Actually, that is the same for the first point. Hmmm.

    And the middle one, stupid yes, a possibility you should be prepared for, definitely.

    Congrats Dave, your better than the average motorist by barely meeting the minimum standard that a motorist should meet :rolleyes:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,886 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Had what I felt was a very dangerous pass this evening on the Ballyowen Rd. I was cycling the bus lane, taking the lane due to the wet weather.
    A car came up behind avoiding the normal wet weather queues and I pointed towards right indicating for them to get in the correct lane; they simply beeped their horn and pointed to their left telling me to get into the cycle lane.
    I stayed put anyhow as I wasn't going to be bullied out of his way.
    For about 150m he revved his engine as he travelled behind me.
    Lo and behold, the revs increases and got closer. Knowing what he was at I looked to my right and the prick was comung up to squeeze past. He was inches from behind me and I knew that if I stayed on my line I'd be in an ambulance. I pulled to my left and there was inches between us, his mirror taking much of that up.
    He sped on ahead leaving me to slow down for a red light at the Penny Hill jcn (green for him).
    I pulled over and wrote down his reg into a text message and continued on.
    Further on at the queue for the N4, there he was. I cycled in front of him and told him that I was going straight to the gardai. He looked up from his phone, said something as I was leaving and gave the obligatory F-you beep as I left.
    I popped into my local garda station and the gardai will give him a warning.


    That road is wide enough for us all, what was his problem? Was he just lane jumping and driving in the bus lane?


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  • Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 43,142 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    That road is wide enough for us all, what was his problem? Was he just lane jumping and driving in the bus lane?
    Not that I need to excuse my actions but I was in the centre of the bus lane (as recommended by the RSA & Rules of the Road). Knowing how traffic can be on wet days along this stretch and because I'm effectively on slicks, I decided to follow a somewhat dry line which also allowed me to safely take control of the lane. Had a bus or taxi come up behind me I'd have happily moved out of their way.
    He was breaking the law by driving in the 24/7 bus lane. He got pissed off because I was blocking his empty lane and I had the nerve to point towards the full regular lane. When the I didn't get out of his way he beeped to command me to move left to the wet and somewhat poor surface of the cycle lane (why else beep when he knew I saw him?).
    He then agressively tried to pass me using the space between me in the centre of the lane and the queueing cars. There was not enough room. Had I not taken evasive action, I would be in a hospital or morgue now.

    TLDR: he was an inconsiderate prick who felt that it is ok to illegally undertake queueing traffic and close pass a vulnerable road user cycling legally


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,653 ✭✭✭AulWan


    I had a very close call this morning.

    I was driving along Terenure Road West towards the junction at the end with Templeogue Road, at Mitsubishi Motors, heading towards Rathgar. The traffic light was green in my favour to go.

    A cyclist came speeding across the junction, breaking the red light on the Templeogue Road side, and cut straight out across in front of me. He didn't look left, or right, idiot.

    I have it on dash cam, I wish I knew how to upload it.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 23,158 ✭✭✭✭Alanstrainor


    And another very close call this morning here too. Coming from Portmarnock to Baldoyle on the coast road, taking a position about 1/3 into the lane thinking I had enough of the lane to deter others. How wrong I was. Traffic was heavy in the opposite direction, but a young fella in a merc decided I was holding him up and passed with I'd say 1cm from my bars. I bashed my fist on his window as he went passed.

    This was closely followed by another bad one by another very new merc, no traffic this time and I reckon it was a punishment pass to be honest. I'll see what footage I got later.

    Love it when schools are back...
    :mad::mad::mad:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,326 ✭✭✭Martin567


    CramCycle wrote: »
    Indeed, here was me driving around with the attitude that everyone else was an idiot, pedestrian, cyclist and motorist and prepared to act accordingly.

    On a more serious note, the very last point (Rathgar Road point), it is the exact thing that every motorists should expect and I would be worried if the didn't. Be they Ped, Cylist or motorist, if there is an obstruction, I expect them to move out and adjust my driving/cycling/walking accordingly. Only a complete muppet wouldn't, congrats Dave, your not a complete muppet.

    Actually, that is the same for the first point. Hmmm.

    And the middle one, stupid yes, a possibility you should be prepared for, definitely.

    Congrats Dave, your better than the average motorist by barely meeting the minimum standard that a motorist should meet :rolleyes:


    It's easy to take a sarcastic cut at someone but isn't that just glossing over the point that Dave was making?


    You are correct above about the duty of care that a motorist has in these situations. Surely the cyclists in these instances also have a duty of care, to themselves if nobody else? They shouldn't change lanes without either looking or signalling their intentions. Is it not ok for that to be pointed out too?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    I'm back on the bike commuting again after a hiatus.

    Pretty sure I had my first punishment pass yesterday evening on the R113 towards Sandyford. I don't use the cycle lane on parts due to the awful surface. Some middle aged guy in a Prius close passed me waving his arms around, presumably outraged that I had the nerve to be on the road. Passed him again 20 seconds later when he raced up to a line of traffic :confused:


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,886 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    Not that I need to excuse my actions but I was in the centre of the bus lane (as recommended by the RSA & Rules of the Road). Knowing how traffic can be on wet days along this stretch and because I'm effectively on slicks, I decided to follow a somewhat dry line which also allowed me to safely take control of the lane. Had a bus or taxi come up behind me I'd have happily moved out of their way.
    He was breaking the law by driving in the 24/7 bus lane. He got pissed off because I was blocking his empty lane and I had the nerve to point towards the full regular lane. When the I didn't get out of his way he beeped to command me to move left to the wet and somewhat poor surface of the cycle lane (why else beep when he knew I saw him?).
    He then agressively tried to pass me using the space between me in the centre of the lane and the queueing cars. There was not enough room. Had I not taken evasive action, I would be in a hospital or morgue now.

    TLDR: he was an inconsiderate prick who felt that it is ok to illegally undertake queueing traffic and close pass a vulnerable road user cycling legally

    You did nothing wrong. Often seen cars flying down that lane when I am out running there.

    The cycle lane there can be very slippy


  • Moderators, Category Moderators, Arts Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 52,880 CMod ✭✭✭✭magicbastarder


    McGrath5 wrote: »
    Pretty sure I had my first punishment pass yesterday evening on the R113 towards Sandyford.
    which end of the R113?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,481 ✭✭✭McGrath5


    which end of the R113?

    Turned left of the N11 towards Sandyford Industrial estate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,886 ✭✭✭✭average_runner


    DaveyDave wrote: »
    I've had a number of close calls while driving recently. 3 in the last week, cyclists not looking before moving out right in front of me.

    Going up Patrick St on Saturday night at the traffic lights where it goes into 3 lanes, I'm heading for the first lane but a cyclist moves out from the bike lane to pass someone. No lights, no shoulder check and no hand signal. Had to swerve around him or he would have just went straight into the car (Middle lane was empty, wouldn't normally swerve but didn't fancy dropping the anchor)

    Driving home from work on Monday evening, coming up from Lucan village on the road towards Woodies a cyclist went from the path out onto the road as I was approaching. Lane is narrow enough so cars are close to the curb until the bus lane starts. Again no check, just straight onto the road.

    Going down Rathgar Road on Sunday, a woman moved out to pass a parked car in the bike lane (not in operation). I slowed down because it was obvious but average motorist wouldn't have the foresight.

    Shocking really, I couldn't imagine changing lanes without looking knowing there's traffic. Last thing I went is to swerve in front of a 1,500kg object at 50kph.

    Dave you got to remember, the average dublin cyclists is dumb and selfish.
    They will never look behind to see it is safe before they make their move.

    Today one was going up O'Connell Street the wrong way, thank god the gardai there pulled him in. But nothing will be done
    So you got to count for every move they make, treat them like a 3 year old child.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,015 ✭✭✭✭Mc Love


    Since the schools are back, the amount of close passes have increased.


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