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  • #1952
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Well the only thing i have seen from Varadkar is " under no circumstances will there be a border "

    Hopefully he keeps to his word.

    He will. The brits won’t. They’re planning to put British police on the border.
    They said they wouldnt yet they’re already recruiting and planning for it

    https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1165706927269134337?s=21


  • #1953
    Headshot
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 55,852 ✭✭✭✭Headshot


    Opposition parties meeting Corbyn tomorrow, this will be fascinating

    Corbyn really has a chance to be the bigger man and a real leader tomorrow but it wont happen i'm afraid


  • #1954
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    He will. The brits won’t. They’re planning to put British police on the border.
    They said they wouldnt yet they’re already recruiting and planning for it

    https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1165706927269134337?s=21

    It does not say they will be at the border. Just Northern Ireland.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #1955
    Enzokk
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,005 ✭✭✭Enzokk


    brickster69 wrote: »
    It does not say they will be at the border. Just Northern Ireland.


    What will they be doing in Northern Ireland then? Is it maybe the 300 or so border crossings that will need attention?


  • #1956
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,855 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Of course there is no plans or surely the Government would have told people by now.
    That depends on what the plan is. It might not be necessary to tell people what the plan is if, for example, the plan is for there to be no border. As he said.


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  • #1957
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭brickster69


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    That depends on what the plan is. It might not be necessary to tell people what the plan is if, for example, the plan is for there to be no border.

    And what if there is going to be a border when will they tell people. Hopefully not BTW.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #1958
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,855 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    brickster69 wrote: »
    And what if there is going to be a border when will they tell people. Hopefully not BTW.
    We are going around in circles here. There will not be a hard border. Simplest solution and the obvious one if we don't want another outbreak of violence. Something that apparently is of no consequence to the UK government.


  • #1959
    trellheim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Of course there is no plans or surely the Government would have told people by now.

    How was the bank holiday ? Nice to see the opposition up and at it early on


  • #1960
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    brickster69 wrote: »
    It does not say they will be at the border. Just Northern Ireland.

    You’re missing the point. Not the first time. I’ll leave you to it.


  • #1961
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭brickster69


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    We are going around in circles here. There will not be a hard border. Simplest solution and the obvious one if we don't want another outbreak of violence.

    Totally agree. UK leaves the EU and we sought something out about the border. Job done !

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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  • #1962
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭brickster69


    trellheim wrote: »
    How was the bank holiday ? Nice to see the opposition up and at it early on

    No opposition at all. Very warm today, burnt my bald patch.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #1963
    Christy42
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,106 ✭✭✭Christy42


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    He will. The brits won’t. They’re planning to put British police on the border.
    They said they wouldnt yet they’re already recruiting and planning for it

    https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1165706927269134337?s=21

    Their own documents also said it unavoidable in yellow hammer (released under the Boris admin so can't be blamed on May).


  • #1964
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Their own documents also said it unavoidable in yellow hammer (released under the Boris admin so can't be blamed on May).

    Forgot that.
    Hopefully our pal here will have read that too. Seems to have escaped his notice.


  • #1965
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    Forgot that.
    Hopefully our pal here will have read that too. Seems to have escaped his notice.

    That is in a worst case scenario isn't it ? Even though the WA is dead, some magic solution will crop up.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #1966
    Water John
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    Yellowhammer is not worst case scenario but likely.


  • #1967
    FrancieBrady
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 74,242 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    brickster69 wrote: »
    That is in a worst case scenario isn't it ? Even though the WA is dead, some magic solution will crop up.

    It isn't dead...we are still waiting for the UK to do something. The WA still stands.

    Theresa May did exactly the same thing...ran it up to the deadline and looked for an extension.


  • #1968
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    Water John wrote: »
    Yellowhammer is not worst case scenario but likely.

    The real worst case report is called black swan and hasn’t been leaked yet but it’s name has appeared on documents


  • #1969
    Stop moaning ffs
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,850 ✭✭✭Stop moaning ffs


    brickster69 wrote: »
    That is in a worst case scenario isn't it ? Even though the WA is dead, some magic solution will crop up.

    The working agreement isn’t dead. It’s the only deal available.
    What papers do you read exactly?


  • #1970
    0gac3yjefb5sv7
    Closed Accounts Posts: 3,945 ✭✭✭0gac3yjefb5sv7


    Any idea what is the most likely outcome on Brexit now for the Irish economy and house prices?


  • #1971
    ThePanjandrum
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    Christy42 wrote: »
    Their own documents also said it unavoidable in yellow hammer (released under the Boris admin so can't be blamed on May).

    Yellowhammer was stood down in April 2019 by May (and her cronies including Hammond). The leaked documents were dated August 2019 which was obviously false. The Gibraltese Government has confirmed that it was an old document.


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  • #1972
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,855 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    brickster69 wrote: »
    Totally agree. UK leaves the EU and we sought something out about the border. Job done !
    Did you mean sort?


    Unlike the UK, we have been preparing for this for three years. The fact that the entire freight corridor through the UK was re-aligned through proposal, consultation and feedback stages and concluded almost a year ago should give you some idea of the preparation involved. Without a doubt, solutions for the border in a hard brexit were also looked at. And since the stated objective was to leave it open, that clearly was the plan. And although not an ideal solution; without British co-operation, there would be some leakage, I'm sure they decided it was a small price. I don't suspect it will be long before a more formal situation is agreed and implemented. The border will be in the Irish Sea, de facto and in a short space of time de jure. Assuming the UK actually pull the trigger and blow their metaphorical brains out of course.


  • #1973
    prawnsambo
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    ThePanjandrum wrote: »
    Yellowhammer was stood down in April 2019 by May (and her cronies including Hammond). The leaked documents were dated August 2019 which was obviously false. The Gibraltese Government has confirmed that it was an old document.
    So you'll have backup for both of those statements then?


  • #1974
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    The working agreement isn’t dead. It’s the only deal available.
    What papers do you read exactly?

    FFS, are you deaf ?

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #1975
    ThePanjandrum
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 431 ✭✭ThePanjandrum


    Stop moaning ffs wrote: »
    He will. The brits won’t. They’re planning to put British police on the border.
    They said they wouldnt yet they’re already recruiting and planning for it

    https://twitter.com/thesundaytimes/status/1165706927269134337?s=21

    I don't subscribe to the Times but that Tweet does not indicate that the police would be deployed on the Irish border. It doesn't even intimate it.


  • #1976
    Enter name here
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 411 ✭✭Enter name here


    Pheonix10 wrote: »
    Any idea what is the most likely outcome on Brexit now for the Irish economy and house prices?

    Yes we are all screwed. The Eu will go into a massive recession and cease to exist within 5 years. We will then have to run back to the UK with our tails between our legs asking for forgiveness.


  • #1977
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭brickster69


    prawnsambo wrote: »
    Did you mean sort?


    Unlike the UK, we have been preparing for this for three years.

    Ireland has no preparations. They are totally reliant on the EU as to what is going to happen. Otherwise they would have produced impact reports and so on, but they do not want to scare the public.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



  • #1978
    prawnsambo
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,855 ✭✭✭✭prawnsambo


    ThePanjandrum wrote: »
    I don't subscribe to the Times but that Tweet does not indicate that the police would be deployed on the Irish border. It doesn't even intimate it.
    The headline linked in that tweet literally says: English police could patrol Northern Ireland border


  • #1979
    trellheim
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,193 ✭✭✭trellheim


    Sarcastic answers aside, it will be no bed of roses. But we know that and we are better than the idiot brigade


  • #1980
    Imreoir2
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    brickster69 wrote: »
    That is in a worst case scenario isn't it ? Even though the WA is dead, some magic solution will crop up.

    I don't believe in magic, and I certainly don't believe Borris and his Brexiter palls, they are proven liars. If the UK chooses to go through with a no-deal Brexit then in the absence of the backstop both sides will have no option but to implement border checks. Hopefully the damage to the UK from their folly will be so harmful to them that they are swiftly forced back to the table to do a deal which re-opens the border.


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  • #1981
    brickster69
    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,443 ✭✭✭brickster69


    Enter name here wrote: »
    Yes we are all screwed. The Eu will go into a massive recession and cease to exist within 5 years.

    The first point is a certainty but doubtful of the second.

    "if you get on the wrong train, get off at the nearest station, the longer it takes you to get off, the more expensive the return trip will be."



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