Near misses - mod warning 22/04 - see OP/post 822

Whatever about the rights and wrongs of the cars maneuver that was some seriously bad bikecraft.

Interesting read from Joanna Donnelly, she of the weather on RTE. This could get a bit of traction, she's well known.

https://twitter.com/JoannaDonnellyL/status/1164650689055862784

Odyssey 2005 wrote: »

What u-turn ?

The u-turn done by the driver of the oncoming red car that nearly hit the cyclist. Well, to be more accurate, I suppose it was a three point turn, rather than a u-turn.

Deleted User wrote: »

This is some real off the meds stuff now ffs. I encounter this both in the car and on the bike every week, someone who needs to do a U or back out of a space, or drive way or what ever I sit up or slow down or flash / wave them out and we're on our way again and it works in reverse I'm looking to turn right maybe to home I get a car slow and let me cross.

There are things to be outraged by on our roads and this doesn't even register. To pretend otherwise is just trolling Andrew and a piss poor effort at that.

Honestly, the 'off the meds' reference is quite offensive. Please don't joke about mental health issues or use it to score points in a debate.


No-one 'needs' to do a U. They choose to do a U rather than finding a safer way to change direction that might cost them a minute or two. So they choose to do the U. Backing out of anything onto a main road similarly is down to the driver making bad choices. Isn't backing out onto a main road illegal? You can choose to do what you like in these circumstances, but I generally choose NOT to enable selfish driving. That doesn't mean I don't give way to drivers who are doing normal driving. I absolutely do, give way to drivers, cyclists and pedestrians pulling out from side roads, turning right across me, whatever is normal driving. But I don't generally give way to selfish drivers. I don't hit them, or drive or cycle into dangerous positions around them. And sometimes, like this situation, that means that I have no other choice but to give way to them.

average_runner wrote: »

All you ever do is bash motorist

That's not true, sometimes I bash pedestrians as well as motorists.

average_runner wrote: »

want people to hunt down random drivers in Lucan because one red mini did a bad thing.!!!

It's generally considered bad form to drag stuff from one thread into another. But seeing as you brought it up, I'm happy to clarify that I provide some advice or suggestions as to how someone could identify a dangerous driver of a red mini. There was no suggestion about hunting down random drivers.

average_runner wrote: »

When cyclists do something wrong like at the bridge in the quays the other day, you post a video about cars turning left there. It had nothing to do with the incident.

Just to clarify, the initial story was that the cyclist had a green light and the pedestrian who stepped out in front of him had a red light. The related video shows cars turning left against a no-left-turn sign, but your devotion to protecting the reputation of motorists at all times is noted.

average_runner wrote: »

I agree there is alot of bashing of cyclists also but we need to have a balance point of view, alot of people here give that. Alot of posts around the u-turn incident shows that

Who is the 'we' that you seem to be speaking for here?

Weepsie wrote: »

Ahhhh. It was safe and it was legal. You're absolutely wrong so just stop.

It contradicted several of the requirements of ROTR and resulted in a near miss incident. That doesn't meet my definition of 'safe'.

Weepsie wrote: »

And now you're imagining a completely different type of scenario, in which different relevant speeds and lines of vision apply.

I'm comparing it to another type of incident that would involve the driver on the opposite side of the road. It's not the same incident, and you're correct to say it would involve different relevant speeds.

Weepsie wrote: »

Again changing your angle on why you are so appalled by it to justify it. It's commendable just how much deeper you can dig yourself into this. Keep doubling down, you still won't be correct.

Just to be clear, I don't need your approval or agreement. The driver did a manoeuvre that contradicted several of the requirements of ROTR and resulted in a near miss incident, all to save themself a minute or two, despite causing similar delays to a few other road users.

Had another MGIF pass today heading into a roundabout, except today it was a applegreen petrol tanker HGV . Luckily he heard my shouts and pulled into the right turn lane then proceeded straight on , caught up with the driver at the petrol station he was delivering to, he said it was my fault because I had not indicated - I was going straight!


He told me to go to the Guards, as he clearly did not care.

I got rid of the audio due to the my profanities.

hesker wrote: »

Could you explain what he did wrong here. I’m not seeing it. Was it before the start of the video or the bit where he was on the roundabout.

I mean I can see the vid but I can’t see the issue.

Ok there are two lanes left is straight and left turn, right lane is right turn only, he partially overtook men then cut back into the left lane , I shouted and he pulled into the right turn lane , then he went straight,

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

The u-turn done by the driver of the oncoming red car that nearly hit the cyclist. Well, to be more accurate, I suppose it was a three point turn, rather than




The cyclist is in the wrong there
If he had been paying attention hed have seen the car doing a 3 POINT TURN. They take a few seconds to do and the cyclist was being a cnut not allowing the car to finish the manover and get off the road.

AndrewJRenko wrote: »

Was the driver being a cnut by choosing to do the three point turn in front of oncoming traffic that he was clearly going to hold up?

The driver was not a cnut for holding up one car for less a 5 seconds.
The cyclists only put himself in danger, the driver was observant enough to see what was going on and stopped before it happened.
I have often seen cyclists(myself included in the past) taking chances to maintain momentum and that's what I'm guessing is the case here.

Neither person in this case is without fault, the driver could of picked a better spot to turn and the cyclist could of free-wheeled from a distance giving the driver a chance to complete the turn.

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magicbastarder wrote: »

something in the air today. 60km spin, and every overtake was considered and courteous.

Have to agree, a cyclists waited opposite a pull in spot to allow me to pass safely( I was coming against him on a narrow road)
First time it's happened

Stark wrote: »

Pleasant commute this morning as well. I think traffic's a bit lighter as it's last week before the schools come back so everyone's less stressed. Roll on the fun next week though

I was back on the bike this morning after a week off. Noticed traffic a bit heavier around castleknock / quays - some schools I think have started back already.

Hats off to the bint trough who squeezed by me here.

https://goo.gl/maps/fLbvwxT6xDDZSzwp8

Despite taking the lane and gesturing for her to back off (she was tailgating me ridiculously close, I was behind a car in front, ticking along at 35kph ish) she kept at it, eventually overtakin me and squeezing past me into oncoming traffic. Much worse for the cyclist in front - she almost took him out overtaking him further on and left hooking him. Complete disregard and selfish driving. Ah well, at least she made it a few seconds earlier to that red light at castleknock gates.