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Do I have to disclose where my new job is to my employer when giving my notice?

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  • #32
    Marcusm
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    rock22 wrote: »
    How?
    Op is not setting up an agency to compete

    Up until now, the agency has been receiving a fee (10, 15 or 30% of his salary likely) for the placement. By taking up direct employment, they lose the opportunity to earn that fee. For precisely this reason, agency contracts generally preclude direct engagements for a period of time after the agency arrangement.


  • #33
    rock22
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    Marcusm wrote: »
    Up until now, the agency has been receiving a fee (10, 15 or 30% of his salary likely) for the placement. By taking up direct employment, they lose the opportunity to earn that fee. For precisely this reason, agency contracts generally preclude direct engagements for a period of time after the agency arrangement.

    If the agency could successfully prevent the OP taking up employment in such circumstances, (something I very much doubt) then the OP would have very good reason not to tell the agency the name of the new employer.


  • #34
    4ensic15
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    rock22 wrote: »
    If the agency could successfully prevent the OP taking up employment in such circumstances, (something I very much doubt) then the OP would have very good reason not to tell the agency the name of the new employer.

    What good will that do the o/p. The new employer has some employees who previously worked with the o/p's current employer. It is virtually certain that the current employer will learn who the new employer is very quickly after the o/p starts work in the new job.


  • #35
    Outcastangel
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    Hi All,

    Thanks for all the advice. I continued with the recruitment process and was waiting to hear more. The HR rep I was dealing with got in touch this week to ask for a referee from the current employer on request of the HR manager.

    I gave her the details. I then got a call from the office manager who was surprisingly nice about giving a reference but said she was surprised and asked why I was leaving. She said she was shocked.

    I then rang the HR rep about documents I needed to provide. She then mentioned that she hoped I wasnt left in hot water with the current employers, she said the office manager was extremely short with her and didn't seem happy. Uncomfortable few days to say the least.

    However, happy news is I am handing my notice in and have a start date with my new employer and no issues have arisen.


  • #36
    cnocbui
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    seagull wrote: »
    Are you currently working for the new employer through the agency, or were you previously there through the agency? If you're currently on placement there through the agency, then I think the agency would have a case against yourself, the new employer, or both.

    Mightn't be a good look, or financially beneficial in terms of future prospects, for an agency to try having a go at one of it's customers.


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  • #37
    seagull
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    Any agency will typically have a clause in their contract with the employer that they will pay compensation to the agency if they directly employ any staff provided by the agency.


  • #38
    BattleCorp
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    seagull wrote: »
    Any agency will typically have a clause in their contract with the employer that they will pay compensation to the agency if they directly employ any staff provided by the agency.

    That clause may well be there but there is still no obligation on the employee telling his current employer who his new employer will be.


  • #39
    seagull
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    BattleCorp wrote: »
    That clause may well be there but there is still no obligation on the employee telling his current employer who his new employer will be.

    No, but it's why it's uncommon for someone to move from a role through an agency to a role being directly employed without the agency being aware of what is happening.


  • #40
    Outcastangel
    Closed Accounts Posts: 77 ✭✭Outcastangel


    seagull wrote: »
    Any agency will typically have a clause in their contract with the employer that they will pay compensation to the agency if they directly employ any staff provided by the agency.

    I was told about this and the compensation is based on how many hours the employee worked. A colleague left recently and their end of service documents that were sent to his new employer stated he worked fulltime. He then showed HR his old rosters to show he never worked over 28 hours a week in the 9 months of employment. They were trying to pull a fast one, they apologised and said it was a clerical error.


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