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Munster Team Talk Thread - Snymans are(n't) Forever

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    #1832
    phog
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    That may form part of the naming rights.

    I was thinking it more to do with the artificial pitch


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    #1833
    thomond2006
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    Kevin O'Byrne 2020
    Rhys Marshall 2021
    Niall Scannell 2021

    Diarmuid Barron Year 2
    Eoghan Clarke Year 2

    James Cronin 2021
    Dave Kilcoyne 2020
    Liam O'Connor 2020
    Jeremy Loughman 2020

    James French Year 2
    Josh Wycherley Year 2

    Stephen Archer 2020
    John Ryan 2022
    Brian Scott 2020
    Ciaran Parker 2020

    Keynan Knox Year 3 & 2022

    Tadhg Beirne 2022
    Billy Holland 2020
    Jean Kleyn 2022
    Sean O'Connor 2020
    Darren O'Shea 2020
    Fineen Wycherley 2021

    Thomas Ahern Year 2
    Paddy Kelly Year 1
    Eoin O'Connor Year 1

    Arno Botha 2020
    Gavin Coombes 2021
    Chris Cloete 2022
    Tommy O'Donnell 2021
    Jack O'Donoghue 2021
    Peter O'Mahony 2021
    Conor Oliver 2020
    CJ Stander 2021

    Jack Daly Year 2
    John Hodnett Year 1
    Jack O'Sullivan Year 3

    Craig Casey 2021
    Neil Cronin 2021
    Alby Mathewson Nov 2019
    Nick McCarthy 2021
    Conor Murray 2022

    Jack Stafford Year 3

    Tyler Bleyendaal 2021
    Joey Carbery 2022
    JJ Hanrahan 2021

    Jake Flannery Year 1
    Ben Healy Year 2

    Sam Arnold 2020
    Shane Daly 2021
    Chris Farrell 2022
    Dan Goggin 2020
    Rory Scannell 2021

    Sean French Year 2
    Alex McHenry Year 3

    Andrew Conway 2020
    Keith Earls 2021
    Mike Haley 2021
    Calvin Nash 2021
    Darren Sweetnam 2021
    Alex Wootton 2021

    Liam Coombes Year 3
    Alan Tynan Year 3
    Jonathan Wren Year 2

    2019/20 Movements:
    IN: Eoin O'Connor (LK, Waterpark), Paddy Kelly (LK, Young Munster), John Hodnett (FL, UCC), Nick McCarthy (SH, Leinster), Jake Flannery (FH/FB, Shannon)
    OUT: Mike Sherry (HK, Retired), Dave O'Callaghan (FL, Biarritz), Duncan Williams (SH, Retired), James Hart (SH, Biarritz), Ian Keatley (FH, Benetton), Bill Johnston (FH, Ulster), Matt More (CT, South Africa), Jaco Taute (CT, Leicester Tigers), James McCarthy (WG, Dragons), Ronan O'Mahony (WG, Retired), Stephen Fitzgerald (WG, Connacht)

    2019/20 NIEs:
    Arno Botha (capped), Chris Cloete (uncapped), Alby Mathewson (capped)


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    #1834
    Eod100
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    Kevin O'Byrne 2020
    Rhys Marshall 2021
    Niall Scannell 2021

    Diarmuid Barron Year 2
    Eoghan Clarke Year 2

    James Cronin 2021
    Dave Kilcoyne 2020
    Liam O'Connor 2020
    Jeremy Loughman 2020

    James French Year 2
    Josh Wycherley Year 2

    Stephen Archer 2020
    John Ryan 2022
    Brian Scott 2020
    Ciaran Parker 2020

    Keynan Knox Year 3 & 2022

    Tadhg Beirne 2022
    Billy Holland 2020
    Jean Kleyn 2022
    Sean O'Connor 2020
    Darren O'Shea 2020
    Fineen Wycherley 2021

    Thomas Ahern Year 2
    Paddy Kelly Year 1
    Eoin O'Connor Year 1

    Arno Botha 2020
    Gavin Coombes 2021
    Chris Cloete 2022
    Tommy O'Donnell 2021
    Jack O'Donoghue 2021
    Peter O'Mahony 2021
    Conor Oliver 2020
    CJ Stander 2021

    Jack Daly Year 2
    John Hodnett Year 1
    Jack O'Sullivan Year 3

    Craig Casey 2021
    Neil Cronin 2021
    Alby Mathewson Nov 2019
    Nick McCarthy 2021
    Conor Murray 2022

    Jack Stafford Year 3

    Tyler Bleyendaal 2021
    Joey Carbery 2022
    JJ Hanrahan 2021

    Jake Flannery Year 1
    Ben Healy Year 2

    Sam Arnold 2020
    Shane Daly 2021
    Chris Farrell 2022
    Dan Goggin 2020
    Rory Scannell 2021

    Sean French Year 2
    Alex McHenry Year 3

    Andrew Conway 2020
    Keith Earls 2021
    Mike Haley 2021
    Calvin Nash 2021
    Darren Sweetnam 2021
    Alex Wootton 2021

    Liam Coombes Year 3
    Alan Tynan Year 3
    Jonathan Wren Year 2

    2019/20 Movements:
    IN: Eoin O'Connor (LK, Waterpark), Paddy Kelly (LK, Young Munster), John Hodnett (FL, UCC), Nick McCarthy (SH, Leinster), Jake Flannery (FH/FB, Shannon)
    OUT: Mike Sherry (HK, Retired), Dave O'Callaghan (FL, Biarritz), Duncan Williams (SH, Retired), James Hart (SH, Biarritz), Ian Keatley (FH, Benetton), Bill Johnston (FH, Ulster), Matt More (CT, South Africa), Jaco Taute (CT, Leicester Tigers), James McCarthy (WG, Dragons), Ronan O'Mahony (WG, Retired), Stephen Fitzgerald (WG, Connacht)

    2019/20 NIEs:
    Arno Botha (capped), Chris Cloete (uncapped), Alby Mathewson (capped)

    Very solid squad for the next 2/3 seasons. Hoping we can kick on in that period. Think fixture details for Champions Cup are out mid August so maybe around 16th judging by previous years..


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    #1835
    The Lost Sheep
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    thomond2006 wrote: »
    That may form part of the naming rights.
    probably but great shame change is happening
    phog wrote: »
    I was thinking it more to do with the artificial pitch
    maybe but could imagine naming rights would be more of reason shame it's happening A games in Clonmel, Waterford, Tralee were great and far better for Munster IMO


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    #1836
    PTH2009
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    Google sheets of Munster and Ireland 2019/20 fixtures i created

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10VibnpPMdwPBo7FzPwTIBpD7qBvnNLPVsGkmtfNBGZY/edit?usp=sharing

    Open too edit. Cant find the dates for the pro 14 playoffs


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    #1837
    phog
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    PTH2009 wrote: »
    Google sheets of Munster and Ireland 2019/20 fixtures i created

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/10VibnpPMdwPBo7FzPwTIBpD7qBvnNLPVsGkmtfNBGZY/edit?usp=sharing

    Open too edit. Cant find the dates for the pro 14 playoffs

    Great, thanks for sharing.


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    #1838
    phog
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    MRSC AGM has reverted to a midweek night again - they tried a prematch AGM and it doesn't seemed to have worked
    The Annual General Meeting of the Munster Rugby Supporters Club will take place at the Charleville Park Hotel on Wednesday August 21st at 7:30PM.

    We are delighted to announce that Munster Rugby Head Coach Johann van Graan and senior coach Stephen Larkham will be our guests on the night with an exclusive Q & A for members. Acting C.E.O Philip Quinn will deliver a Munster Rugby update while the MRSC committee will also detail progress within the supporters’ club.


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    #1839
    Caranica
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    phog wrote: »
    MRSC AGM has reverted to a midweek night again - they tried a prematch AGM and it doesn't seemed to have worked

    A huge step backwards. Pre match allowed people to get there from all over the country. I made all but the last one from Dublin. Are people really going to trek from West Cork and Waterford and Dingle, not to mention those of us who live outside Munster, to Charleville on a Wednesday night for this?


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    #1840
    Cookiemunster
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    Caranica wrote: »
    A huge step backwards. Pre match allowed people to get there from all over the country. I made all but the last one from Dublin. Are people really going to trek from West Cork and Waterford and Dingle, not to mention those of us who live outside Munster, to Charleville on a Wednesday night for this?

    Is it? The vast majority of members don't attend and obviously numbers didn't pick up when it was held before a match. I actually don't know anyone who's ever attended and I've been a member for over 15 years.


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    #1841
    Caranica
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    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    Is it? The vast majority of members don't attend and obviously numbers didn't pick up when it was held before a match. I actually don't know anyone who's ever attended and I've been a member for over 15 years.

    I know a lot of people who could only go when they put it before a game, myself included


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    #1842
    phog
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    Caranica wrote: »
    A huge step backwards. Pre match allowed people to get there from all over the country. I made all but the last one from Dublin. Are people really going to trek from West Cork and Waterford and Dingle, not to mention those of us who live outside Munster, to Charleville on a Wednesday night for this?

    I'm not convinced. How many were at the last two AGMs? These were on match nights. Match nights probably only suit those who can get there early and/or those that don't have non members with them.

    I wasn't at either but I've attended a good few of the Charleville AGMs and they seem to get a fair cross section of the membership attending.

    Also worth noting you'll seldom if ever get a coach to attend an AGM prior to a match and we're getting two at this AGM.


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    #1843
    The Lost Sheep
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    Caranica wrote: »
    A huge step backwards. Pre match allowed people to get there from all over the country. I made all but the last one from Dublin. Are people really going to trek from West Cork and Waterford and Dingle, not to mention those of us who live outside Munster, to Charleville on a Wednesday night for this?
    yes people will. Chatleville is a very regular spot for meetings of all kinds for different Munster committees, groups and yes you will get plenty interested who will travel for an agm. Numbers attending before a match were not that big and certainly not much if at all bigger than when the agm was held mid week in another venue so better off to move it


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    #1844
    phog
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    Fla on leaving his coaching role with Munster
    He says the decision to depart the Munster coaching set-up after five years came down to a "gut feeling". "It's a fantastic job coaching with Munster. I loved it and it was a really good environment to work in, so it wasn't an easy decision to make. But just as things went on, I felt like all good things come to an end," he told the Ireland Unfiltered podcast.


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    #1845
    Lucas44
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    Curious if you could buy one of the retro or previous years Munster/Irish jersey what would be your go to


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    #1846
    Eod100
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    This old chestnut has come up again. Surely would only be viable if it brought in a good bit more than a sold out TP? They might push it to 30-35k max at a stretch but don't see how that would justify

    https://twitter.com/tonyleen/status/1162123439471255552


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    #1847
    bennyl10
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    This old chestnut has come up again. Surely would only be viable if it brought in a good bit more than a sold out TP? They might push it to 30-35k max at a stretch but don't see how that would justify

    https://twitter.com/tonyleen/status/1162123439471255552

    Never gonna happen.

    Leinster at Christmas is going to be Thomond for the foreseeable, capacity gains wouldn’t be worth it.

    We’d only see PuC used for a Europe semi and even then it’d be a long shot


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    #1848
    Eod100
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    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Never gonna happen.

    Leinster at Christmas is going to be Thomond for the foreseeable, capacity gains wouldn’t be worth it.

    We’d only see PuC used for a Europe semi and even then it’d be a long shot

    Yeah that would be my thinking. Be interesting to see substance of articles as GAA promoting idea would hardly be ''talks'' but maybe they've made an approach to Munster about it.


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    #1849
    bennyl10
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Yeah that would be my thinking. Be interesting to see substance of articles as GAA promoting idea would hardly be ''talks'' but maybe they've made an approach to Munster about it.

    Especially as Leinster is a big ST selling point, moving it to cork would negate that..

    I'd guess it's the GAA have suggested ti, rather than actual talks


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    #1850
    sydthebeat
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    Give me leinster v munster in TP in the middle of Limerick rather than in PUC in an industrial estate on the outskirts of Cork every time.


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    #1851
    Cookiemunster
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    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Never gonna happen.

    Leinster at Christmas is going to be Thomond for the foreseeable, capacity gains wouldn’t be worth it.

    We’d only see PuC used for a Europe semi and even then it’d be a long shot


    Yup. Munster make a fortune out of this match. Paying rent for PUC and losing out on corporate revenue means that it's never going to happen.

    That and the fact that the IRFU and the GAA wouldn't allow it to happen.
    bennyl10 wrote: »
    Especially as Leinster is a big ST selling point, moving it to cork would negate that..

    Not just the ST, but the 5/10 year tickets are sold for TP, so these games will be there for another decade.


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    #1852
    Former Former
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    GAA rules allow for non-GAA games to be played in exceptional circumstances. What's exceptional about this?

    Nothing in this I'd say.


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    #1853
    Squidgy Black
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    Former Former wrote: »
    GAA rules allow for non-GAA games to be played in exceptional circumstances. What's exceptional about this?

    Nothing in this I'd say.

    The money to the GAA would be exceptional.


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    #1854
    Eod100
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    Former Former wrote: »
    GAA rules allow for non-GAA games to be played in exceptional circumstances. What's exceptional about this?

    Nothing in this I'd say.

    They relaxed that rule afaik. Whether that match would count as "an event of national significance" is another q but decision with GAA at end of day so


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    #1855
    Eod100
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    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    Yup. Munster make a fortune out of this match. Paying rent for PUC and losing out on corporate revenue means that it's never going to happen.

    That and the fact that the IRFU and the GAA wouldn't allow it to happen.



    Not just the ST, but the 5/10 year tickets are sold for TP, so these games will be there for another decade.

    Wonder if a sold out PUC would bring in more money though even less rent? Obviously GAA aren't doing it out of goodness of their hearts but if rent wasn't viable wouldn't be an option at all


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    #1856
    Sir Guy who smiles
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    It's the same old story; the GAA did not need another big stadium in Munster along with Thurles and Killarney but the rebels are too important to have their biggest rivals in each code having the best pitch, so they had spend a fortune on POC.
    Now they are looking for any way they can to fill it more often.


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    #1857
    Eod100
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    Not a whole lot in this tbh. Back to the default of believe it when we see it then. Nevermind! https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/rugby/pairc-in-the-frame-to-host-munster-leinster-rugby-clash-944271.html


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    #1858
    Clareman
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    It must be a slow news day to say they are rolling this out again, why would Munster want to have a non-full PuC when they can fill TP. There is no upside to Munster for moving a regular game to PuC, maybe a HEC semi could be moved but why would the IRFU pay rent when they'd make more themselves out of the Aviva.

    I'd say the main thing here is that PuC is 1 of the biggest white elephants and waste of money every in the history of sport in this country, they won't even let the Cork footballers play there so chances are there'll be 3 games there a year through the GAA so they need to make it look like other games will be played there.


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    #1859
    Cookiemunster
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Not a whole lot in this tbh. Back to the default of believe it when we see it then. Nevermind! https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/sport/rugby/pairc-in-the-frame-to-host-munster-leinster-rugby-clash-944271.html


    Yeah, if it was to ever happen, it most definitely wouldn't be this season.


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    #1860
    Clareman
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    Eod100 wrote: »
    Wonder if a sold out PUC would bring in more money though even less rent? Obviously GAA aren't doing it out of goodness of their hearts but if rent wasn't viable wouldn't be an option at all

    With all the hassle with the pitch in PuC I'd imagine there would be quite a considerable charge to playing a winter game there.


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    #1861
    Vinnie222
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    Cookiemunster wrote: »
    Yeah, if it was to ever happen, it most definitely wouldn't be this season.

    True , would the pitch even be ready and what about everyone that has hotels already booked .


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