Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

noodler · 13-08-2019 01:07AM

Would also love to leave the usual pathetic rangers /Celtic jousting at the door.

ardinn · 13-08-2019 01:30AM

gimli2112 · 13-08-2019 05:19AM

I didn't know Kent was saying that prisoner stuff. It kind of demonstrates the mentality of some footballers. I mean if you were having a dispute with an employer would you really consider posting your side of the argument on social media and criticize them? I find it bizzare.

daheff · 13-08-2019 07:43AM

gimli2112 wrote: »

I didn't know Kent was saying that prisoner stuff. It kind of demonstrates the mentality of some footballers. I mean if you were having a dispute with an employer would you really consider posting your side of the argument on social media and criticize them? I find it bizzare.

different worlds though. Footballers are literally assets on the clubs books.... you & i are costs on our companies books. if we complain (on social media) the cost gets reduced(ie fired) if they complain and seem to be less happy then the assets gets written down in value

MD1990 · 13-08-2019 09:53AM

https://twitter.com/_pauljoyce/status/1161198013437620225

looks like Lovren will go.

Fitz* · 13-08-2019 09:54AM

Risky game to only have 5 senior defenders on our books now, especially when 2 of them have had a few injury problems in the past.

I guess we're gonna see more of Fabinho, Milner, Hoever & Van der Berg in defence this season than originally expected.

shamrock55 · 13-08-2019 10:03AM

Pure madness if we let lovren go now at this stage when he can't be replaced

rob316 · 13-08-2019 10:10AM

£15m is an absolute bargain for Roma to be fair, still not happy though when Gomez inevitably breaks down we are left with kids and Fabinho as our CB cover.

MD1990 · 13-08-2019 10:13AM

Gomez's injuries last 2 seasons were both from poor challenges.

Hopefully he gets a bit of luck this season.

ERG89 · 13-08-2019 10:16AM

Did Lovren not recognise he was 4th choice when Matip took Gomez place in the team???

Don't understand the current idea with our defence. We haven't signed a defender other than a 17 year old in the last year but in that time we've sold Klavan, Clyne got loaned/injured, Moreno left & now we're actively looking to sell Lovren.

TitianGerm · 13-08-2019 10:18AM

Maybe we have something lined up for January and Lovern won't leave until then?

Either way £15m seem very cheap and completely against the general fees we've managed to get for players the last while.

Knex* · 13-08-2019 10:54AM

Selling Lovren for 15m just seems pointless.

Not enough money to compensate the risk of losing him.

steve_r · 13-08-2019 10:54AM

Not a fan of that Lovren transfer. Even Tyrone Mings and Adam Webster went for over €20m, and he is more experienced than both of them.

Did a quick look at CB transfers this summer on the transfermarkt - bar the big blockbusters, was surprised to see a lot of the bigger fees around 20-30m - there doesn't seem to be the premium attached to CB's that midfielders are getting.

I get that the money in supports new contracts etc but the squad suffers and it's a little bit too Mike Ashley for me

On a different note, good article on the Athletic on Liverpool's No.2 goalkeepers, had forgotten about that whole Doni/Brad Jones thing a few years ago

Boom_Bap · 13-08-2019 10:57AM

Lovren probably wants to get a new contract towards the end of his career and still play football at a high level. His first team chances with us are limited now.
I'd prefer to keep him around, but I wouldn't like to hold him and see out the rest of his career on the training ground.

BullBlackNova · 13-08-2019 11:01AM

I wouldn't expect Klopp to stand in the way of any player leaving if they want to go and aren't part of the plans - Mignolet, etc - but this Lovren move can't have come as a shock, so it seems short sighted to let him go when we have so few options in defence.

Five senior players for four positions is asking for trouble tbh. Playing Milner or Fab there either leaves us weaker in the positions they are slotting into or in the positions they should typically be in.

Hopefully in a few months, we'll all be sitting here laughing at the fact that we had no faith in Hoever and Van den Berg but between this, the shortage in the striking department and the Alisson injury, I'm just a little nervous now.

klose · 13-08-2019 11:11AM

Bit of a mad decision really, then you'd have to remember lovren is about as reliable as lallana so maybe Klopp is just happy to see him off and he rarely stands in the way of players who want to leave.

Agent Coulson · 13-08-2019 11:15AM

Seemed obvious for weeks now that Lovren would leave if the price was right.

Good to see Kelleher in the squad.

Hoever & Elliott must be the young lads getting a chance this season.

noodler · 13-08-2019 11:28AM

We'll regret it.

8-10 · 13-08-2019 11:49AM

TitianGerm wrote: »

Maybe we have something lined up for January and Lovern won't leave until then?

Either way £15m seem very cheap and completely against the general fees we've managed to get for players the last while.

It's Roma. Ownership links and we underpaid for Salah.

I'd imagine if it were Inter or Juve we'd get more but they're happy enough for him to go

Agent Coulson · 13-08-2019 11:53AM

If the club aren't prepared to drop the price for Kent to join Gerrard at Rangers they are very unlikely to sell Lovren on the cheap to Roma.

Lovren like most of the squad players has a price the if matched the club would be happy to sell.

Also the club didn't underpay for Salah.

Salah's exploits make it look like the club underpaid for him however at the time Liverpool paid a very fair price for him.

MD1990 · 13-08-2019 11:57AM

Lovren is 30 & has a reputation of being error prone.

15m-20m is about right for a team outside the PL who don't have huge tv money.

13-08-2019 11:59AM

This wouldn't have just come out of the blue. Roma have been linked for weeks. Lovren has been fourth choice even longer. I'd wager that negotiations have been going on longer than last Thursday. "Match our asking price, he's yours."

Klopp obviously trusts and has faith in Hoever and VdB.

gimli2112 · 13-08-2019 12:04PM

I don't keep track but presumably the people unhappy over the sale are not the same people that complain about Lovern at every available opportunity? No-one's ever happy in here. It's unlikely the decision was taken just to piss us off.

8-10 · 13-08-2019 12:06PM

Agent Coulson wrote: »

If the club aren't prepared to drop the price for Kent to join Gerrard at Rangers they are very unlikely to sell Lovren on the cheap to Roma.

Lovren like most of the squad players has a price the if matched the club would be happy to sell.

Also the club didn't underpay for Salah.

Salah's exploits make it look like the club underpaid for him however at the time Liverpool paid a very fair price for him.

Had he come good after a bedding in period I'd agree with you. But he was instantly scoring goals. He was worth more at the time than Roma thought

Osmosis Jones · 13-08-2019 12:23PM

8-10 wrote: »

Had he come good after a bedding in period I'd agree with you. But he was instantly scoring goals. He was worth more at the time than Roma thought

IIRC at the time Roma were in a tough financial position where they had to sell him before the end of the month so they didn't really have time to negotiate a better fee.

SlickRic · 13-08-2019 01:17PM

rob316 wrote: »

£15m is an absolute bargain for Roma to be fair, still not happy though when Gomez inevitably breaks down we are left with kids and Fabinho as our CB cover.

for the best defender in the world, don't forget.

Muahahaha · 13-08-2019 01:20PM

Lovren for 15 mill seems cheap. Would there be any players at Roma that Klopp might be interested in for the January window? We've got two stamps on the loyalty card now so might as well fill it up.

Harry Palmr · 13-08-2019 01:32PM

Not sure why people are naming Hoever, van den berg will be 4th choice centre back.

klose · 13-08-2019 01:33PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Not sure why people are naming Hoever, van den berg will be 4th choice centre back.

More likely fabinho if worse comes to it

The Good Ole Boys · 13-08-2019 01:34PM

Hoever is ready this season. Bring him in and reap the rewards. We can win league with child!

Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

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