Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

AndyBoBandy · 10-08-2019 11:24AM

The Super Cup is European footballs equivalent of the charity shield, the official opening of the European football season. a glorified friendly. Of course I'd like us to win it, but if we don't win, I couldn't care less and it will be forgotten about by the weekend (if not later on Wednesday night).

It should be used to give more game time to those still short on match fitness (Mané), and those who didn't start last night and are unlikely to start next weekend.

Also a good opportunity for Adrian to get 90 minutes under his belt in a no pressure game.

Who here would be delighted to win the Super Cup but in return lose VVD, Salah, Gini or TAA/AR to injury?

Harry Palmr · 10-08-2019 11:26AM

ERG89 wrote: »

I think I read a few weeks ago they want to do this for every game basically to undercut MOTD

Really? two minutes of goals rather than 6-7 minutes of tactical analysis? :pac:

The Premier League itself should have the rights to a highlights package, the way they hand everything over to the broadcasters whims is crazy.

TitianGerm · 10-08-2019 11:32AM

ERG89 wrote: »

I think I read a few weeks ago they want to do this for every game basically to undercut MOTD

I'll miss all the dubstep versions now though :pac:

Princess Consuela Bananahammock · 10-08-2019 11:44AM

ERG89 wrote: »

I think I read a few weeks ago they want to do this for every game basically to undercut MOTD

I thought they weren't allowed? If they were, they'd have done it ages ago

BullBlackNova · 10-08-2019 11:45AM

I care slightly more about the European Super Cup purely because we qualified by winning one of the cups. The Community Shield didn't matter to me because we were only there as City won both the cups... If we'd won the FA Cup to qualify, I probably would have been more interested!

rob316 · 10-08-2019 12:03PM

It's mad I'm already hoping city drop points today given how good they have been last 2 seasons. Anxiously checking the score of their game.

NukaCola · 10-08-2019 12:04PM

MD1990 wrote: »

We have won 1 trophy in the last 7 years.

And we have posters who want a 2nd string in the Super Cup final. I understand a 2nd string in the League Cup & FA Cup. But a one off final. Bizarre stuff.

If we won it and didn't win anything else this season the super cup wouldn't make a difference tbh. Lets say we retained the CL or won a domestic cup, I wouldn't say we won a double either for example. Its nice to win but thats all.

I'd play a strong enough team but we are away to Southampton 3 days and even at this early stage is a must win. Any players with even the slightest fitness concern should be left out, I'd say we'll be fine for both games anyway.

Muahahaha · 10-08-2019 12:11PM

I think even with resting a few players we should still be beating a Chelsea with a new manager and no Hazard or David Luiz.

I want the trophy because losing to Chelsea always hurts even if it is a glorified friendly.

ERG89 · 10-08-2019 12:12PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I thought they weren't allowed? If they were, they'd have done it ages ago

I'm still not sure how its allowed maybe that's why they are on YouTube and free but seemingly the 3pm games are up at 5:15 according to their YouTube homepage.

Osmosis Jones · 10-08-2019 12:13PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I thought they weren't allowed? If they were, they'd have done it ages ago

The first step towards a legitimate streaming service hopefully.

rob316 · 10-08-2019 12:14PM

Ali going to be out 4 to 6 weeks. Not too bad I guess.

RugbyLover123 · 10-08-2019 12:16PM

Find it baffling some fans couldn’t care less about winning the super cup (& community shield). It’s called creating a winning mentality.

daheff · 10-08-2019 12:20PM

So when Kelleher is fit does he start or Adrian?

Have to say 6m for migs & Adrian for free was a decent bit of work by the club

A lot of me thinks we had to pay a lot of cash on transfer addons from winning champions league- hence no cash this summer for transfers

I’d like to see us win Super Cup. Might be a glorified friendly to some, but it’s silverware to keep winning mentality going.

10-08-2019 12:27PM

Harry Palmr wrote: »

Super Cup is a nothing event, you get no kudos for it, it contributes to nothing tangible. Send the kids and insult both Chelsea and UEFA.

I feel the same tbh.

I'd trade 3 points v Southampton next Saturday for losses in both super cup and world clubs.

DrumSteve · 10-08-2019 12:28PM

6 wrote: »

I feel the same tbh.

I'd trade 3 points v Southampton next Saturday for losses in both super cup and world clubs.

Why not win all three though

10-08-2019 12:29PM

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Find it baffling some fans couldn’t care less about winning the super cup (& community shield). It’s called creating a winning mentality.

It's just prioritizing. The winning mentality is there already.

10-08-2019 12:29PM

DrumSteve wrote: »

Why not win all three though

Hey, that'd be ideal!

chicorytip · 10-08-2019 12:30PM

Agent Coulson wrote:

The club is considering taking Lonergan in on a short term contract.

Adrian is not a reliable or trustworthy keeper. At West Ham, whilst a good shot stopper he was constantly prone to charging off his line in a rash manner or attempting to catch crosses outside his reach. Klopp will be wishing Alisson a very speedy recovery.

10-08-2019 12:32PM

I thought Adrian did well yesterday when called upon. Some reception he got running on !

RugbyLover123 · 10-08-2019 12:33PM

6 wrote: »

It's just prioritizing. The winning mentality is there already.

Is it? I think it will be if we win the super cup and WC Cup. But atm we’ve won 1/5 finals under Klopp? Is that winning mentality to you?

TitianGerm · 10-08-2019 12:40PM

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Is it? I think it will be if we win the super cup and WC Cup. But atm we’ve won 1/5 finals under Klopp? Is that winning mentality to you?

I'd say you get more of a winning mentality from winning the CL than either the Super Cup or World Club Cup. They're nice to get to but not priority trophies.

10-08-2019 12:45PM

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Is it? I think it will be if we win the super cup and WC Cup. But atm we’ve won 1/5 finals under Klopp? Is that winning mentality to you?

Well we just won the biggest club competition. Think it's there alright

RugbyLover123 · 10-08-2019 12:51PM

A winning mentality comes from winning more then 1 trophy imo

citytillidie · 10-08-2019 01:00PM

Princess Consuela Bananahammock wrote: »

I thought they weren't allowed? If they were, they'd have done it ages ago

This is new tv contract those clips used to be done behind a paywall by a certain newspaper sky had them last season and was on their football app were you had to log in with your sky details to see. Now they have them on YouTube instead.

NukaCola · 10-08-2019 01:02PM

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

A winning mentality comes from winning more then 1 trophy imo

Winning mentality to me is winning under pressure in big competitions week after week when the pressure is really on. We did it all last season. There will be no real pressure to win the super cup.

I agree though, we should take it serious. To be clear I do want to win it. I would just rather prioritise the league if we have to even at this early stage. You are probably right though, winning finals can become a habit even if the competition seems unimportant to a lot of people.

AndyBoBandy · 10-08-2019 01:10PM

RugbyLover123 wrote: »

Find it baffling some fans couldn’t care less about winning the super cup (& community shield). It’s called creating a winning mentality.

'Some Fans' are probably of a generation where Liverpool were regularly winning the big 'important' trophies, not feeding of scraps like the Community Shield or Super Cup*, or even an odd League Cup here or there.

*I'm fully aware that you need to win the CL or EL to get to the super cup, but it should never be counted as a competition win the following season if won.

Like in 2001 when we won 5 trophies in 1 calendar year, with 3 of them actual trophies, and 2 being micky mouse, everyone remembers it as the treble cup win, not the 5 cup win.

To also be clear, of course I want us to win the Super Cup, but I won't feel remotely as down if we lose as I did when Real Madrid beat us last season. It'll be forgotten about in a day or 2.

And if you offered me now the following scenario;

Win the Super Cup but draw to Southampton vs lose the Super Cup 0-5 and beat Southampton 1-0, I'm sorry I'm taking the 3 PL points all day.

10-08-2019 01:21PM

AndyBoBandy wrote: »

'Some Fans' are probably of a generation where Liverpool were regularly winning the big 'important' trophies, not feeding of scraps like the Community Shield or Super Cup*, or even an odd League Cup here or there.

*I'm fully aware that you need to win the CL or EL to get to the super cup, but it should never be counted as a competition win the following season if won.

Like in 2001 when we won 5 trophies in 1 calendar year, with 3 of them actual trophies, and 2 being micky mouse, everyone remembers it as teh treble cup win, not the 5 cup win.

To also be clear, of course I want us to win the Super Cup, but I won't feel remotely as down as I did when Real Madrid beat us last season. It'll be forgotten about in a day or 2.

And if you offered me now the following scenario;

Win the Super Cup but draw to Southampton vs lose the Super Cup 0-5 and beat Southampton 1-0, I'm sorry I'm taking the 3 PL points all day.

Agree 100%.

The thing that irks me about these micky mouse comps is the potential disruption of important games. The bar is so high in the league now that there's not much room for error.

10-08-2019 01:22PM

I think Klopp will be take it serious btw.

AndyBoBandy · 10-08-2019 01:26PM

6 wrote: »

I think Klopp will be take it serious btw.

He will, but in the context of the season as a whole, and the League has to be his priority this season. so Wednesday's and next weekend's games will be planned for accordingly.

BorneTobyWilde · 10-08-2019 01:49PM

It would be just super to win the Super Cup, absolutely super.

Liverpool FC Team Talk, Gossip, Rumours 2019/2020

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