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Why is getting a rare steak such an impossibility in Ireland?

  • 03-08-2019 05:24PM
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    Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 333 ✭✭


    Was in Wetherspoons recently with Mr Lemon and he ordered a rare steak and what he got resembled medium well. He asked for a new steak and they looked at the steak and said that it is rare.

    This is not the only instance of this occurring. It’s happened before, when you ask for a rare steak it comes out overdone.

    The standard way of cooking beef in Ireland seems to be incinerated in the core of the sun. :P

    Whenever Mr Lemon orders steak, he always has to stress a few times that it should be cooked rare.

    Any food places that do a GOOD rare steak? What has been your experiences?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 2,398 ✭✭✭Franz Von Peppercorn II


    Yes there are plenty good steak houses in Ireland. Wetherspoons is not one of them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 21,029 ✭✭✭✭kneemos


    Ever heard of tapeworm?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,799 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    FX Buckleys.

    All credit to Wetherspoons on the boozing front but it's not the place to go for a steak cooked to your preference.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,910 ✭✭✭OneArt


    I think your first mistake was going to Wetherspoon's.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Most places I order it blue, that way it comes rare.

    Marco Pierre White, FX Buckley(various locations), Shanahans on the Green among others will deliver a perfectly cooked steak.

    I think the problem is the restaurants you're going to. If I ordered a steak at Wetherspoons I'd be happy if it was edible. Eating cheap rarely equals value for money.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon


    TK Lemon wrote: »
    Was in Wetherspoons recently with Mr Lemon and he ordered a rare steak and what he got resembled medium well. He asked for a new steak and they looked at the steak and said that it is rare.

    This is not the only instance of this occurring. It’s happened before, when you ask for a rare steak it comes out overdone.

    The standard way of cooking beef in Ireland seems to be incinerated in the core of the sun. :P

    Whenever Mr Lemon orders steak, he always has to stress a few times that it should be cooked rare.

    Any food places that do a GOOD rare steak? What has been your experiences?

    Ask for it to be done BLUE and, if you're lucky, you'll get it rare. If you're really lucky you'll get it blue! (i.e. raw but warm!)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,798 ✭✭✭goose2005


    Portsalon wrote: »
    Ask for it to be done BLUE and, if you're lucky, you'll get it rare. If you're really lucky you'll get it blue! (i.e. raw but warm!)

    *bleu


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    TK Lemon wrote: »
    Was in Wetherspoons recently with Mr Lemon and he ordered a rare steak and what he got resembled medium well. He asked for a new steak and they looked at the steak and said that it is rare.

    This is not the only instance of this occurring. It’s happened before, when you ask for a rare steak it comes out overdone.

    The standard way of cooking beef in Ireland seems to be incinerated in the core of the sun. :P

    Whenever Mr Lemon orders steak, he always has to stress a few times that it should be cooked rare.

    Any food places that do a GOOD rare steak? What has been your experiences?

    Wetherspoons for a steak! Are you trolling!?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    kneemos wrote: »
    Ever heard of tapeworm?

    If you are very very very unlucky you might get that from undercooked pork. Rare beef is safe as houses. I eat raw beef quite often, carpaccio and tartare.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,756 ✭✭✭✭lawred2


    Steak and Lobster will do rare


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 702 ✭✭✭Portsalon


    goose2005 wrote: »
    *bleu

    Try that pretentiousness in any bistro in my part of the country and you'll probably need a dentist's appointment!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,671 ✭✭✭GarIT


    You literally went to the equivalent of McDonalds and complained that the meat wasn't rare. Spoons don't cook anything, only microwave from frozen and will pretend it was cooked if you ask


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    also depends on the type of cut of meat.

    fillet steak - rare yes.

    rib eye you don't want rare as the fat in it will not be good rare!

    and agree with the other posters - you need to up your price range a bit to go to an establishment that actually has some little bit of expertise of dealing with steaks properly.

    Featherblade may be the most economic option but Fx Buckley is good value for what you get. Shanahans is expensive for sure especially the way the give you nothing with your steak unless you pay extra.


  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    glasso wrote: »
    Shanahans is expensive for sure.
    I don't know anyone who's eats in Shanahan's more than, maybe, once a year. Even that sounds a bit much.

    Whenever you get a review off someone, they'll patter on about how nice the food was but frown and say, very gravely, "It's very dear, though".

    It's more famous for cost than for quality.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,261 ✭✭✭Baron Kurtz


    Don't overcook it. You overcook it, it's no good. It defeats its own purpose.

    Bring it over. It's like a piece of charcoal. Bring it over here!


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    I don't know anyone who's eats in Shanahan's more than, maybe, once a year. Even that sounds a bit much.

    Whenever you get a review off someone, they'll patter on about how nice the food was but frown and say, very gravely, "It's very dear, though".

    It's more famous for cost than for quality.

    My brother eats there all the time for business. It is fantastic

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Brian? wrote: »
    My brother eats there all the time for business. It is fantastic
    Is he paying?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,048 ✭✭✭Dr Turk Turkelton


    Hmm op, Wetherspoons and trying to act pretentious?
    Trying for a champagne lifestyle on a cider budget spring's to mind.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    Is he paying?

    Not the kind of question I ask.

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,190 ✭✭✭✭IvySlayer


    Food coming out of a kitchen, especially meat should be 75 plus to avoid food poisoning and for the paperwork. Rare would be a lot cooler than that. That's why a lot of places tend to overcook steak


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭This is it


    Darwin's on Aungier St is fantastic for a steak, best I've had.


  • Posts: 18,962 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    This is it wrote: »
    Darwin's on Aungier St is fantastic for a steak, best I've had.

    found the quality went down a lot after initially/couple years being good - unless they have upped their game again recently.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 22,685 Mod ✭✭✭✭Brian?


    IvySlayer wrote: »
    Food coming out of a kitchen, especially meat should be 75 plus to avoid food poisoning and for the paperwork. Rare would be a lot cooler than that. That's why a lot of places tend to overcook steak

    That’s simply not true. If the outside of steak is cooked it’s safe.

    Also: steak tartare, carpaccio and sashimi?

    they/them/theirs


    The more you can increase fear of drugs and crime, welfare mothers, immigrants and aliens, the more you control all of the people.

    Noam Chomsky



  • Posts: 13,712 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Brian? wrote: »
    Not the kind of question I ask.
    How vulgar of me!!


  • Posts: 5,518 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    You’re probably confusing the cook in Wetherspoons when you ask for it rare.

    Just tell them to cut off the horns and wipe its arse, they’ll understand that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,044 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Lol. Taking you out to dinner in a 'Spoons. Just a step up from a Happy Meal.

    Better check if that wedding band is made of brass.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,123 ✭✭✭This is it


    glasso wrote: »
    found the quality went down a lot after initially/couple years being good - unless they have upped their game again recently.

    It was near three years ago when I was last there in fairness so I've no idea what it's like now


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 29,930 ✭✭✭✭TerrorFirmer


    Well, I would start by going to a proper restaurant? Wetherspoons is grand for what it is, but your post is like saying "Went to McDonalds, burger wasn't great, does anywhere in Ireland do a GOOD burger?"


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 315 ✭✭rodneyTrotter.


    This is it wrote: »
    Darwin's on Aungier St is fantastic for a steak, best I've had.

    I heard that and had a very dry tasteless steak unfortunately, mind you , I wouldn’t rule it out again as it’s a lovely place and staff are good . A bad one off steak maybe


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 159 ✭✭Tamara tamara


    In the Michelan star restaurants I frequent you don't really get asked. If you do the correct reply is "chefs recommendation"


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