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Women and Astrology, psychics etc.

  • 29-07-2019 04:12PM
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    Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Have recently re-entered the dating scene so I’ve been swiping away at tinder and one thing that really struck me is the amount of women making references to astrology in their bios/profiles.

    My question is why is it that there is such an apparent gender imbalance regarding belief in astrology?
    I don’t want to generalise but I know numerous women who profess belief in it but can’t say the same of any men I know. Same goes for psychics.

    Perhaps there’s no definitive answer but has anyone any ideas?


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 10,070 ✭✭✭✭pq0n1ct4ve8zf5


    I'd leave off tinder til Thursday mate.

    Mercury's in retrograde.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    You're such an Ophiuchus.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,994 ✭✭✭sullivlo


    Have recently re-entered the dating scene so I’ve been swiping away at tinder and one thing that really struck me is the amount of women making references to astrology in their bios/profiles.

    My question is why is it that there is such an apparent gender imbalance regarding belief in astrology?
    I don’t want to generalise but I know numerous women who profess belief in it but can’t say the same of any men I know. Same goes for psychics.

    Perhaps there’s no definitive answer but has anyone any ideas?

    As a female I like astronomy and physics. Maybe you're misreading their bios?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,055 ✭✭✭JohnnyFlash


    My swamp donkey on an ex-wife used to visit psychics a lot. Funny they weren’t able to tell her that I was ending the marriage and moving out for the good of my sanity and happiness.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 17,495 ✭✭✭✭eviltwin


    Women tend to be more religious as well don't they? Maybe it's the need to believe that things will be okay, that there is some higher power looking out for us all. Maybe they are just idiots.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    I don't mind reading my horoscope as a bit of fun but I put no store in it.

    Now, this is where I'm going to get lambasted - I do believe there are a tiny, tiny minority of people who are psychic. Now, I think most of them are absolute scam artists but there are definitely (imho) a handful out there that just seem to operate on a higher level than the rest of it.

    I almost think of it the same way I do elite athletes. Most human beings couldn't come close to the physical skill you see on display at the Olympics. But a very small minority have a natural talent for a sport, and they spend their lives honing and training it.

    It used to be said that we only use 10% of our brains - that myth has been disproved by science, but what science does say is that we only understand about 10% of how it functions (link)

    I believe there are a handful who have gifts the rest of us don't have access to or understand. There are too many stories of psychics knowing super-specific things (not like "Has anyone lost a Mary") to completely write it off completely.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    Kiki, when someone can collect James Randi's million dollars, I might pay some heed. They're all chancers. If there was even one of them worth a damn, they'd have to close down the lotto.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    mikhail wrote: »
    Kiki, when someone can collect James Randi's million dollars, I might pay some heed. They're all chancers. If there was even one of them worth a damn, they'd have to close down the lotto.

    They'll have trouble collecting on it since it no longer exists (as per the first paragraph of your link)

    I don't think they can predict the future in any case.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,275 ✭✭✭Your Face


    mikhail wrote: »
    Kiki, when someone can collect James Randi's million dollars, I might pay some heed. They're all chancers. If there was even one of them worth a damn, they'd have to close down the lotto.


    He's a bit of a chancer himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    mikhail wrote: »
    Kiki, when someone can collect James Randi's million dollars, I might pay some heed. They're all chancers. If there was even one of them worth a damn, they'd have to close down the lotto.

    Also, your point is a logical fallacy - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence (the fact that something hasn't been proved is not evidence that it cannot be proved)

    I'll give you an example - say 50 years ago if you went to a doctor with depression and he told you to meditate every day and see if that helped, you'd think he was a quack. There was no evidence to support it.

    These days, there's an abundance of scientific evidence of the benefits of meditation. The proof didn't exist 50 years ago, but the benefits were no less real.


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    sullivlo wrote: »
    As a female I like astronomy and physics. Maybe you're misreading their bios?

    Nope, definitely astrology.

    And I’m not suggesting women aren’t interested in astronomy or physics either...

    Do you disagree that women are more commonly interested in astrology than men? That’s all I’m trying to figure out here.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,862 ✭✭✭mikhail


    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    Also, your point is a logical fallacy - absence of evidence is not evidence of absence (the fact that something hasn't been proved is not evidence that it cannot be proved)

    I'll give you an example - say 50 years ago if you went to a doctor with depression and he told you to meditate every day and see if that helped, you'd think he was a quack. There was no evidence to support it.

    These days, there's an abundance of scientific evidence of the benefits of meditation. The proof didn't exist 50 years ago, but the benefits were no less real.
    Ah, Russell's Teapot lives on. They're making the claim; the onus is on them to supply the evidence.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    mikhail wrote: »
    Ah, Russell's Teapot lives on. They're making the claim; the onus is on them to supply the evidence.

    Nope, I'm not saying it's up to you to prove me wrong.

    I'm saying science is a living and constantly developing thing, and we understand things now that we didn't understand 50 years ago, and we'll understand stuff 50 years from now that we don't today.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    Nope, I'm not saying it's up to you to prove me wrong.

    I'm saying science is a living and constantly developing thing, and we understand things now that we didn't understand 50 years ago, and we'll understand stuff 50 years from now that we don't today.

    Yes, and astrology will remain complete bunk.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Yes, and astrology will remain complete bunk.

    I'm not sure. I have a feeling that we will find that those lines drawn through important stars in the sky (the millions of others are not important) can predict the future.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    Yes, and astrology will remain complete bunk.

    You're entitled to hold that opinion. Many people wrote off meditation in the same way and for similar reasons for decades, some of them still refuse to believe it even though plenty of evidence now exists.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    You're entitled to hold that opinion. Many people wrote off meditation in the same way and for similar reasons for decades, some of them still refuse to believe it even though plenty of evidence now exists.

    So how can a random group of stars predict the future?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Have recently re-entered the dating scene so I’ve been swiping away at tinder and one thing that really struck me is the amount of women making references to astrology in their bios/profiles.

    My question is why is it that there is such an apparent gender imbalance regarding belief in astrology?
    I don’t want to generalise but I know numerous women who profess belief in it but can’t say the same of any men I know. Same goes for psychics.

    Perhaps there’s no definitive answer but has anyone any ideas?


    Very few men are genuinely psychic so why would they believe in it?

    Men and women are different. Our brains are different.


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    You're entitled to hold that opinion. Many people wrote off meditation in the same way and for similar reasons for decades, some of them still refuse to believe it even though plenty of evidence now exists.

    Meditation is tangible in terms of alleviating stress etc. The movement of planets millions of miles away has no discernible influence on humans. I'll defer to astronomy instead of hocus pocus.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    Ipso wrote: »
    So how can a random group of stars predict the future?

    I don't think they can. I didn't say they could. Keep up.


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    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    You're entitled to hold that opinion. Many people wrote off meditation in the same way and for similar reasons for decades, some of them still refuse to believe it even though plenty of evidence now exists.

    What do you think psychics can do - if not tell the future. Do you mean a medium, that can communicate with "the other side"?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    There is a million dollar prize available for anyone who ca prove they are psychic. Double blind test under laboratory conditions of course.

    despite being available for over a decade there hasn't been any interest from the psychic community, and no claimants either.

    Funny that...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,960 ✭✭✭Autecher


    Ipso wrote: »
    So how can a random group of stars predict the future?
    To be fair Kiki has not said that, she has said she believes there are some people out there who operate on a higher plane than others.


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    M5 wrote: »
    There is a million dollar prize available for anyone who ca prove they are psychic. Double blind test under laboratory conditions of course.

    Funnily enough, despite being available for over a decade there hasn't been huge interest from the psychic community.

    Funny that...

    Well, you're not psychic anyway :p


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 571 ✭✭✭kikilarue2


    Meditation is tangible in terms of alleviating stress etc. The movement of planets millions of miles away has no discernible influence on humans. I'll defer to astronomy instead of hocus pocus.

    I agree with you there. I haven't said anything about stars or planets. I made a point about human beings.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    kikilarue2 wrote: »
    I don't think they can. I didn't say they could. Keep up.

    Why reply about how things can change to someone saying astrology is bunk?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,161 ✭✭✭✭M5


    Well, you're not psychic anyway :p

    I could have predicted that thee would be no claimants. Maybe I am!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,444 ✭✭✭✭Sardonicat


    Very few men are genuinely psychic so why would they believe in it?

    Men and women are different. Our brains are different.

    'Genuinely ' psychic? As opposed to 'actually ' psychic? No one is actually psychic.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 15,215 ✭✭✭✭ILoveYourVibes


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    'Genuinely ' psychic? As opposed to 'actually ' psychic? No one is actually psychic.


    You have to be psychic to know. ;)


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 5,995 ✭✭✭Ipso


    Sardonicat wrote: »
    'Genuinely ' psychic? As opposed to 'actually ' psychic? No one is actually psychic.

    Possibly just monetarily psychic.


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