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Lion King Remake (Jon Favreau)

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    #62
    pixelburp
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    From a purely technical point of view, I could see how some might admire what Disney achieved. There's no two ways about it, the digital fidelity in realistically recreating these animals is quite stunning. It's just the context is so redundant, and without any creative merit. That side-by-side comparison is damning.


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    #63
    Dades
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    razorblunt wrote: »
    But Moana beats it hands down.
    Love Moana. Second only to Tangled for me in that genre.


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    #64
    FunLover18
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    Dades wrote: »
    Love Moana. Second only to Tangled for me in that genre.

    For me:
    Zootropolis > Tangled > Moana > Frozen > Wreck It Ralph 1&2


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    #65
    nix
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    That side by side clip is woeful, i remember posting in this thread last year predicting that they wouldnt include this version with the musical numbers of the original as it would look daft. I was swiftly told otherwise and couldnt believe it, now that im seeing it, its sooooo bad, much worse than how i imagined it in my head, what were they thinking? :confused::eek:


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    #66
    RickBlaine
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    pixelburp wrote: »
    From a purely technical point of view, I could see how some might admire what Disney achieved. There's no two ways about it, the digital fidelity in realistically recreating these animals is quite stunning. It's just the context is so redundant, and without any creative merit. That side-by-side comparison is damning.

    I agree the photorealism is stunning and an impressive showcase of what modern tech can do. But it is difficult to see any other merit in the movie and the realism is also a big hindrance in actually trying to get the animals to convey emotion which isn't a problem for their cartoon counterparts.


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    #67
    clever user name
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    Went to see this last night. It's not absolutely awful, but what has previously been said on this thread is 100% spot on; it lacks the emotion and character of of the original and comes across as quite cold overall. The CGI is actually too good to be honest, at times you feel like you're just waiting for David Attenborough to chime in on what's going on.

    They do stick to the original in terms of story (of course) and dialogue (pretty close), so much so that I couldn't really tell the differences. This is not a good thing though, the visuals (while amazing) are somewhat dull, so knowing exactly what's going to happen only adds to the dullness. They would have been actually better making an entirely new sequel to the original.

    Some of the casting was spot on...particularly Seth Rogan, and of course James Earl Jones

    Disappointing overall, but somewhat expected.


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    #68
    CastorTroy
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    Now I'm just imagining David Attenborough narrating the movie, a cross between his and Thomas the Tank Engine style
    And here we see Mufasa and Simba looking upon their kingdom. "Look Simba" said Mufasa "Everything the light touches is our Kingdom"


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    #69
    Thirdfox
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    Was reading up on the lion king and so disappointed to learn about Disney's legal schenanigans and blatant copying of Kimba the white lion from Japan.

    childhood ruined :( - they should admit the plagarism and pay their dues

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UfJvKIDS9n8


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    #70
    correction
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    Saw it last night. The cinema was packed and you could tell everyone absolutely loved it. A few people actually tried to get a clap going at the end but it wasn't happening.

    I enjoyed it quite a bit. It's certainly not as good as the original but it was great to hear all the classic songs on the big screen again.

    This will certainly be a serious audience pleaser regardless of reviews.


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    #71
    Pang
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    I saw it yesterday and was so disappointed. The hyena jokes fell flat every time and Be Prepared was really missed from the scene.


    I just can't wait to be king is one of my favourite songs from the original and it felt flat. Everything felt flat and emotionless at times. Even Mufasa's death, which normally makes me cry had little effect.



    I wish Disney would stop with these remakes. I'm dreading the Little Mermaid remake.


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    #72
    Shelga
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    Well reading this thread makes me all the more sure of my mini-promise to myself (that no one else will ever know or care about :pac:) never to see any of these lazy, pointless Disney remakes. Worse than that, they're so blatantly a money-spinning exercise and devoid of any artistic merit or reason.


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    #73
    El Duda
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    Saw this earlier and I'll begrudgingly admit I enjoyed it a lot. I had already decided going in that I was going to hate it. I expected it to be lifeless and lazy but it surprised me in a lot of ways.

    I think the fact that I haven't seen the original for a long long time is a major factor.


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    #74
    marklazarcovic
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    I loved it , absolutely loved it,I wanted to love it because I didn't want the name ruined,don't know what people are expecting to be complaining already ,it's not the original,if your already sure you won't like it don't go,there was tears and claps from adults and kids today, Fantastic stuff.


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    #75
    LoughNeagh2017
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    I liked it but I suppose it was a bit weird to watch with the lions looking so real, it was always obvious what scene was coming up even though I haven't seen the original version in 12 years.

    I remember in the late 1990s I never could get the Lion King VHS tape anywhere, I was very jealous of my cousin who had it, then around 2002 I found one in a car boot sale in Derry, I thought it was a cheap rip off one but it turned out to be the American version, I still have it actually.


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    #76
    LoughNeagh2017
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    El Duda wrote: »
    I don't really have a problem with these remakes in principle. Some of them have added little updates and done a decent job.

    My problem is the way they churn them out on a conveyor belt like there's no tomorrow. Make a few remakes, coin in the profit, then have a break use that money to fund some original projects. If the originals flop hard, fall back to making another remake.

    But at least TRY and vary up your product from year to year.

    I would prefer to see a prequel of the original about Scar and Mufasa in their youth as Mufusa wasn't really in the film for very long.


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    #77
    CastorTroy
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    I enjoy this guy's videos

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbx97kKHUHw


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    #78
    kerplun k
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    Yeah, it’s pointless. Sure, the graphics are probably impressive, but so was the original and I bet more work and man hours went into the that one than it did this one. If you plan on watching The Lion King, do yourself a favor and watch the best version of the film by finding a screening or renting the original.


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    #79
    RickBlaine
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    CastorTroy wrote: »
    I enjoy this guy's videos

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sbx97kKHUHw

    Watching his videos is super easy, barely an inconvenience.


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    #80
    kerplun k
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    RickBlaine wrote: »
    Watching his videos is super easy, barely an inconvenience.

    Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pitch meetings are tight.


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    #81
    Tilikum17
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    Watched it today. Meh.

    Why did they not use Jeremy Irons?


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    #82
    correction
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    Have little time for the 'it's pointless' brigade. All forms of entertainment are pointless, we all die eventually. If you wanna watch it, do, if not, don't.


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    #83
    pixelburp
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    Jesus. Well that went dark. Not quite the argument being made, but way to kill the mood there.


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    #84
    kerplun k
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    correction wrote: »
    Have little time for the 'it's pointless' brigade. All forms of entertainment are pointless, we all die eventually. If you wanna watch it, do, if not, don't.

    That’s not true, I watched Field of Dreams tonight, and it wasn’t pointless. It really made me believe again.


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    #85
    correction
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    kerplun k wrote: »
    That’s not true, I watched Field of Dreams tonight, and it wasn’t pointless. It really made me believe again.

    Well if you're apart of the 1919 White Sox's team you never die. :D


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    #86
    El Duda
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    The Lion King (2019) - 7/10

    I begrudgingly must admit that I really enjoyed this. The critics had been very harsh on this and I went in expecting to hate it. I was expecting it to be a lifeless and lazy but it surprised me in a number of ways.

    It is at its best when they deviate from the original. Certain scenes cannot be replicated in ‘live action’ so they had to think of something new. ‘I Just Can’t Wait to be King’ being a good example, as they show a lovely gathering at the watering hole. The scenes where it is a line for line, shot for shot the same as the original are a bit of a chore to get through and only serve to remind us that the original will always be superior.

    A lot of reviews speak of the lack of emotion and describe it as being soulless. Claiming that photo realistic Lions can’t emote in the same way as their animated counterparts. For me, they overcame this by putting put more focus into body language and replicating the natural movement of the animals.

    Although this is the cinematic translation of ‘Standing on the shoulders of giants’ and there is a clear lack of artistry, it managed hit enough correct notes for me. It seems some critics just can’t accept the way Disney keep remaking these classics, and they had already written their reviews before seeing it. The Lion King is, and always will be a truly fantastic story. This is a worthy update.


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    #87
    Outlaw Pete
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    I really liked it.

    It's a film for kids really and always think a good sign of a film for younger audiences being good or not is if they can sit still and watch the damn thing or not without jabbering non stop and being restless.

    Well, I seen it in a pretty packed IMAX and there wasn't a peep out if the younger folk, engrossed they were from start to finish.

    Great remake.... not as good as the original, which caters to a slightly younger audience than this, but a great companion piece nevertheless for when they're somewhat older and have outgrown the original.


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    #88
    Vince135792003
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    I have never seen the original (I feel I need to hang my head in shame!). I saw the new version today in IMAX. I loved it. My favourite movie of the year.


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    #89
    Abel Ruiz
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    Vince135792003 wrote: »
    I have never seen the original (I feel I need to hang my head in shame!). I saw the new version today in IMAX. I loved it. My favourite movie of the year.

    Hang your head.
    The new film is awful. But I'm sure it looked amazing in imax


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    #90
    mdwexford
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    Anyone saying it’s awful or pointless are talking nonsense.

    Very enjoyable way to spend two hours.


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    #91
    Vince135792003
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    Abel Ruiz wrote: »
    Hang your head.
    The new film is awful. But I'm sure it looked amazing in imax

    I know. I blame my parents! It wasn't just the spectacle that I loved though. The story really touched me and I was hooked from the beginning. I loved the Scar character. Again, having not seen the original I'm looking at it through different eyes than pretty much everyone my age.


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