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  • 23-07-2019 1:36am
    #1
    Ultimate Seduction
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    How come undercooked mince can make you sick e coli but you can eat a big bloody steak no bother?


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    Beast4mdaeast
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    Because germs live on surface areas... hence mince has a much greater surface area ..compared to the sealed sides of a steak


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    Beast4mdaeast
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    Ohh and mince will have gone trough a mincer that's probably filthy anyway


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    368100
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    How come undercooked mince can make you sick e coli but you can eat a big bloody steak no bother?

    Because you're killing the bacteria on the edges of the meat, there wont be any in the middle.....whereas in mince it will all be mixed through the meat.


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    Ultimate Seduction
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    Beast4mdaeast wrote: »
    Because germs live on surface areas... hence mince has a much greater surface area ..compared to the sealed sides of a steak

    Why can't I eat raw chicken fillets ?


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    gctest50
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    Be grand, bit of recette


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    Insect Overlord
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Why can't I eat raw chicken fillets ?

    Different kind of bacteria. It lives deep inside the chicken meat.


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    Beast4mdaeast
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Why can't I eat raw chicken fillets ?

    Well you could but i wouldn't recommend it ..
    I heard not all chicken but only some carry salmonella


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    368100
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Why can't I eat raw chicken fillets ?

    Salmonella and Campylobacter bacteria....nasty stuff


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    Beast4mdaeast
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    Im the smarter one :P


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    Ultimate Seduction
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    I just had a badly cooked homemade burger and I'm in bits. I've often eating raw steak hence the question


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    Beast4mdaeast
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    The worst food poisoning i ever had was from cocktail sausages at a kids party.. anyone that eat them where in bits!! Pork is nasty


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    Insect Overlord
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    Steak comes from the choice cuts. Minced beef? Eh, not so much...


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    Ultimate Seduction
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    Beast4mdaeast wrote: »
    Well you could but i wouldn't recommend it ..
    I heard not all chicken but only some carry salmonella

    I like those odds, wonder how itd taste


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    Ultimate Seduction
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    Insect Overlord wrote: »
    Steak comes from the choice cuts. Minced beef? Eh, not so much...

    Minced steak gives ecoli aswell though


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    368100
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    I just had a badly cooked homemade burger and I'm in bits. I've often eating raw steak hence the question

    48 hours will see you right, just keep access to a toilet and drink plenty of water :-)


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    Twenty Grand
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    Insect Overlord wrote: »
    Steak comes from the choice cuts. Minced beef? Eh, not so much...

    Mince is put through a mincer. Plenty of surface area and exposure to bacteria.
    Steak has much less.

    Temperatures of 70-80C are all you need to kill bacteria. You can heat a chicken or a steak to that and not cook it.


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    Beast4mdaeast
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Minced steak gives ecoli aswell though

    Yes because its minced.. higher risk as the surface area is greatly multiplied. So needs to be cooked right through to be sure to kill off any bacteria


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    Sardonicat
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    Beast4mdaeast wrote: »
    The worst food poisoning i ever had was from cocktail sausages at a kids party.. anyone that eat them where in bits!! Pork is nasty

    Many moons ago I wound up in hospital for three days after those things with severe food poisoning and consequent dehydration.


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    Ultimate Seduction
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    Sardonicat wrote: »
    Many moons ago I wound up in hospital for three days after those things with severe food poisoning and consequent dehydration.

    Interesting.


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    tuxy
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Minced steak gives ecoli aswell though

    e. coli comes from the intestine of the animal and can infect any of the meat during slaughter. When you mince the steak e. coli speaks if you don't mince it the muscle fibres of the steak are too dense for it to penetrate so can only be on the surface.


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    bilbot79
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    Yet McDonald's in France will routinely give you a pinkish burher


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    Ultimate Seduction
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    bilbot79 wrote: »
    Yet McDonald's in France will routinely give you a pinkish burher

    That's probably food colouring to make it look like meat. I'd stick to my butcher as much as possible


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    tuxy
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    If you have authentic French cuisine available to you(excluding steak tartare) and you choose McDonald's you deserve to be poisoned.


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    Outlaw Pete
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    Solution: mince your own meat, I do. Works out more expensive but it's worth it I think.


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    Badly Drunk Boy
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    I just had a badly cooked homemade burger and I'm in bits. I've often eating raw steak hence the question
    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    I like those odds, wonder how itd taste
    If you really are suffering from food poisoning at the moment, why would you be contemplating getting a different version of food poisoning?


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    Hector Savage
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    Why can't I eat raw chicken fillets ?

    Isn't there a Japanese "delicacy" that has raw chicken ?

    F*cking vile if true ..


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    topper75
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    tuxy wrote: »
    If you have authentic French cuisine available to you(excluding steak tartare) and you choose McDonald's you deserve to be poisoned.

    True. I kind of wonder how they exist at all there. I nipped into one for a wee and bought a coffee (which they do well). Some mornings you need a little more than a thimblefull of caffeine.


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    the beer revolu
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    Insect Overlord wrote: »
    Steak comes from the choice cuts. Minced beef? Eh, not so much...

    This has absolutely nothing to do with the distribution of bacteria.

    Do you really think that bacteria will avoid fillet steak and head straight for the shin beef????:confused:


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    antix80
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    Ultimate Seduction wrote: »
    How come undercooked mince can make you sick e coli but you can eat a big bloody steak no bother?

    http://lmgtfy.com/?q=why+can+you+eat+steak+rare+but+not+ground+beef


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    CrankyHaus
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    How does Steak Tartare avoid the risk of infection inherent in raw mince?

    Aside, McDonalds in France is not bad at all, streets ahead of the homeless shelters of the same name you'll find in the US. Obviously it doesn't hold a candle to french cusine done well but if you've been on the tear a few days over there you'll appreciate a quick burger and chips over being treated like dirt by some surly Pariesienne waiter before you're deemed worthy to munch down a few snails.


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