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Boards.ie 2019 Draft Game 3 - SlickRic v jayo26
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22-07-2019 08:02PM#1This is the thread for SlickRic v jayo26
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Each poster can go as in detail as you wish in your write ups incuding set up for your own side. Once the two posters have set out their teams they are allowed one post each to explain their gameplan against their opposition (exposing the other teams weakness or to draw attention to a player they think doesn't work in the other team etc).
I would ask people to hold off casting votes until both posters have submitted their teams.
If one team does not set put their side/tactics inside a 24hr period they will automatically forfeit the tie.
Each poster who votes must give some kind of reason in the thread as to why they voted one way or another to have their vote in the poll counted. This is in the interest of fairness and to discourage voting because you like/dislike a certain poster and to encourage voting for a set of players/ tactical approach instead.
Good luck to both posters.Who wins? 18 votes
SlickRic0%jayo26100%
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So here is my team.
Thinking behind my picks:
Attack
I went with my gut when I was thrown into the draft, that I needed to get my spine right, first and foremost, starting with my attacking areas because there was still top tier talent available. Getting Aguero and Hazard together at the start gave me a platform to which I know from the off that I had goals, no matter what I did with much of the rest of my team.
Solidity
from there, it was about solidity down the centre of the team. Mascherano and Carvalho immediately provided that as two elite players in their positions. I want the team to be flexible in how it plays - able to press when needed, meaning you need energy, but also the tactical and technical nous to not only recover the ball quickly, but to keep the ball when you get it, so as to strangle the opposition. the likes of the aforementioned Mascherano, Dembele, Cazorla, Cole, and Aguero (as seen under Pep) allow that in abundance. But I also wanted a team with grit, and able to soak up pressure against teams that will no doubt be excellent in this draft. I feel Masch and the Carra/Carvalho partnership allow that, with Pearce at LB and Flowers in goal being solid as fúck.
On the Dembele pick, which some (I know) found slightly controversial. I took him early enough because there were very few players left at even that early stage at round 6, that have his skillset in being able to sit and provide bite, but also be able to keep the ball as well as anyone, and perhaps most importantly - dribble with the ball. break the lines. himself, Cazorla and Hazard are all adept at linking up and striking relationships with similarly talented players, but they can also take responsibility and run with the ball.
the other key thing about the midfield 3 is that they are all mobile, and that will be needed. With Petrescu (who I'll get to in a minute) and Pearce (to a slightly lesser extent) playing high at times, the role of those midfielders is to be able to shift across the pitch quickly and instictively when the opposition tries to hit their men directly on the counter. between them, they will fill those gaps left by the full backs, in order to keep the pressure on.
and if the opposition is able to beat them, Carvalho and Carragher are as good at one-on-one defending as you're likely to see. And Carvalho one of the great defensive readers of the game.
Full backs
Petrescu was also a key nab for my team. He was a modern full back before the term existed. He will be needed to provide the width to allow Cole to do a lot of his work on the inside right channel. He can run, cross and see a pass. Pearce, at 30 years old, can do the same on the other, as well as being a dead ball specialist.
Creativity
In Hazard, Aguero, J.Cole and Cazorla, i have some of the most creative collection of talents you could hope for. while i've spoken about the hard work and tactical discipline, at the end of the day, they are there to create and score. I should have no problem doing that.
In conclusion
I hope you will all see that the team is balanced, solid, creative and potent. i don't believe they are too many chinks to speak of, with every player having a specific skillset that is essential to the overall function of the team.0 -
Ok so I'll just give my reasons for my picks and what I want from my team.
When I started off I decided that I wanted to emulate the tried and trusted approach from Alex Ferguson that gave him record number of league titles, all of his teams were built around players that work, players that turned up and played their ass off for the team. I wanted a hard working midfield that was content at defending and working hard to get the ball back and could also turn and help out with the attack I think I've got that in Milner and Petit, both players that have excellent stamina and defensive capability but can also pick out a pass and will control a game.
With rooney in the team I also have the flexibility to allow him drop back and help out in midfield and allow speed and Beckham provide wide outlets to recieve the ball to the take pressure off the center of the pitch. When the ball is out wide I don't think I need to explain this much but Nevile and Beckham will go down in folklore as the epitome of how two players should work a wing they would simply overpower and not allow the other team have a chance on the wing. Similar on the other side while they didn't play each other alonso is one of the best attacking full backs in recent premierleague history he will bomb down the wing all game and one of my midfielders will be able drop back and insure the defence isnt stretched without him. Gary speed ahead of him also has the ability to create chances out wide and cut in for extra pressure on the opposition defence and he was a pretty damn good header of the ball for anything that missed the central players.
Moving on to my defence and goalkeeper I again concentrated on players that could work together, David Seaman and keown were two of the best players in the early Arsenal teams they know how each other works communication between the centerbacks and keeper is key to a successful defence add into that Ronny Johnson and you have the guy that was the lynch pin of the most successful Premier league side ever the team that won the holy grail the treble. Its telling that Johnson played all the big games in the premier league that year and played all the finals and semi finals Fergie trusted him to tie that defence together and partner Stam.
Upfront I have the workhorse that's Wayne Rooney he partnered up with so many strikers and succeeded with all of them and his partnership with Berbatov was a joy to behold some of their passing and movement haven't been seen in premierleague since, the skill of Berbatov added to his calmness at picking out a pass or taking a chance and natural finishing and reading the game of Rooney they are just unstoppable for any defence and the fact is that I don't have to pretend that they work well together I can point to premier league titles and goals that show they do.
Others talk about spine but in my belief I have an entire team that's a spine, I have fullbacks and wide players that compliment each other, I have strong aggressive defenders that are both physical and Johnson gives the height needed for air protection, I have midfielders that work hard defensively but are also passmasters they can create from nowhere and I have four attacking players that can all link up and again compliment each other with hard work and skill and finesse my entire team is built on players that were winners and made various teams of seasons and won trophies to show the winning mentality that they have.
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Here is how I can see my team working hard if we happen to get pressed in midfield, Rooney will drop back and sit in front of two defensive midfielders and win ball back. All 3 can pick a pass from nowhere and deliver it to the wide players if in space or Berbatov to get in behind rooney then has the speed and stamina to be able get forward and be an attacking option as we have seen him do throughout his career. I have pace and height in central defence to cope with any mixture of high balls or running.
Here is how I like to see my team attacking and where I think we will come and dominate the game. The passing speed and ability of my attacking players would simply overwhelm the opposition I have so many options can play it out wide and in the midle with ease and no one better then Rooney and Berbatov to link up together and with the wide players.
With the fullbacks I have the ability to allow one of them at a time to support the attack and the wide players to cut inside and be overlapped by the fullback and as one fullback pushes forward then either milner or petit has the ability and awareness to drop back and make sure defence isn't stretched. If we do happen to be be hit on the counter we have loads of power in defence and then speed of midfield players and Rooney to track back and help midfield out again this is not imaginery this is what has happened throughout his career.0 -
Ok so just to give my opinion on slicks team and his formation is pretty much as I predicted he doesn't have much options to be fair.
I'll start off at the back I was kind of surprised with Tim Flowers he was a decent keeper but one that was prone to glaring mistakes
He also wouldn't be the strongest at commanding his area on crosses.
Moving onto the back four now and on paper they are four names that many will say oh nice picks individually but when you put them all together you have two centerback that thrived with a better stronger partner beside them both been only 6 foot tall leaves them vulnerable in the air, you have two wing backs that lacked pace although you could give Pearce a notable mention for his amazing heart but that's not going to help much when you have hazzard in front of him not helping out defensively and it's worth nothing that all of Stuart Pearce was at his best and team of the season awards were before the days of the premier league. Overall I think the defence is slow and short and with my team working the wings and crosses and running in behind they would be overwhelmed with a weak keeper behind them.
Moving onto midfield and again on paper 3 good midfielders but Mascherano can't do all the defensive work on his own he was an excellent holding mid and box to box but not the fastest and working alongside cazorla and Dembele he wouldn't get much help or freedom to help out attack. Dembele has a good engine but he wasn't great defensively he would easily be caught up the pitch by my team with my excellent passing ability.
Moving onto slicks attack which everyone thought started off great but in reality yes Aguero was a solid pick but he would be isolated against my two physical centerback. Hazard on his day could be a genius but he also can be easily marked out of the game by Gary nevile (one of the best right backs ever and undoubtedly the best in premierleague history) and Petit keeping a close eye on him... Remember how Ander Herrera made hazzard look poor well imagine what two world class players could do to mark him out of the game. Cazorla attacking wise on his day was top quality but he only had one very good season at arsenal he was injury prone and not on that level ever again I think depending on him to be a central playmaker of the team would be a very risky move and something my defence and midfield could easily deal with. Also focusing on Joe Cole and Hazzard defensively this is a major problem area for slick.... They simply don't defend he would be left defending with Aguero, hazard, Cole, cazorla and Dembele upfield and maybe Dembele would get back but he wouldn't have much defensive ability when he did get back.
Overall I'm looking to exploit slicks teams lack of defensive support on the wings the low defensive workrates of his attacking players, im looking to exploit the lack of height and strenght in his back four and lack of pace also in the back line. I'm looking to exploit his keaper that is prone to errors when put under pressure.0 -
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Mate I've no issues about been countered whatsoever it's only a game at end of the day. The only issue I had is we both post at the exact same time with our tactics which I thought was great it was two honest assessments of each other's tactics then I read yours and and was a good reply but when I refreshed page I see you had edited it to counter what I had written up about your keeper selection and how I planned to deal with aguero
You had two posts one talk about your tactics and second to talk about how you would counter my tactics. Anything after that then we debate back and forth.
Anyway I'm leaving this as it is now I'll allow people judge the teams as they see fit.
fair enough. it wasn't meant as sneaky. that's what i wasn't happy with, so apologies for jumping the gun.
this is just meant to be a bit of fun, so I don't want it seen that i was trying to gain a sneaky advantage. honestly, i couldn't be bothered going to those lengths
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