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WereWolf: A 13 player Seer game

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    Baggly wrote: »
    That wolves give 2 name's thing is, with respect, utter horse****e.

    reading back is interesting, you've been on QB for a while. Who's your best guess as the other wolf? I assume you still on QB?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    Whiplashy wrote: »
    I don’t know, I’ve done it as a wolf, but I’m a really bad wolf!

    I've done it as a vil or I've given two or three names as my third. X/y/Z CAUSE I DON'T KNOW.

    Also reading back on stuff I have written is really hard. My typo is not readable, words missing all over the place. like WTF does that even mean???


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    I just know that as a wolf it's hard to come up with plausible FFAs.

    So giving two on its own isn't an indication. Especially if it's two names with very decent reasoning.

    I'd take that over three names with wishy-washy reasons (which I've also called out this game, btw).

    But it all boils down to wolves finding it hard to find reasons to call out players that they know are villagers.

    And especially as wolves don't all want to give the same FFAs as their team mates, there's a multitude of different players that you need to make up reasons for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭kitten_k


    I’m back. Had a hospital appointment this morning and as usual the Irish health system doesn’t know how to run on time!!

    I’ve just checked to see if I’m alive. Gonna read this mornings posts now and see what’s happening.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    Whiplashy wrote: »
    I think Sully and G&R are village but either tusk or Clara is a wolf, and my gut says Clara.
    Whiplashy wrote: »
    #FFA1 ( I apologize to all 3, my reasons are flimsy but there’s not much to go on)

    QB seems like she’s been trying unsuccessfully to start a wagon on G&R. I don’t find his posts wolfie so can’t see where she’s coming from.

    Clara sorry but joking or not you said you’re a wolf. I admit it would be a ballsy move for a wolf, but that could just be what you want us to think.

    Tusk you say there’s not a wolf in the running because there’s no chaos, but yet you seem to be trying to cause chaos with you’re ever changing ffa’s.
    Whiplashy wrote: »
    Desperation. I don’t know where to vote. I have G&R, Sully & Trit as village, and the rest of you I haven’t a clue.
    Whiplashy wrote: »
    Just to add, your posts not about G&R. I didn’t agree with them which is why you originally ended up on my ffa. As I said, flimsy :D
    Whiplashy wrote: »
    @QB panic. I openly stated that my reasoning for the 3 on my ffa was very flimsy. I had no idea where to vote for the best last night. I had decided in my mind that there was most likely a wolf between strawbs, yourself and kitten. Your posts were making sense to me and strawbs wasn’t fighting the way I’d expect her to if she was a wolf so I put the vote on kitten.
    quickbeam wrote: »
    Just combining these two bits of info:


    Person|Target 1|Target 2|Target 3|Voted For
    Sully|Green&Red|Kitten|Kolido|Strawberry milkshake
    Tusk|Strawbs|Kolido|Kitten|Strawberry milkshake
    Strawbs|Tusk|Kitten|Duffman|Kitten_K
    Ecto|Duffman|Tusk|Clarabel|clarabel
    Trit|Kolido|Green&Red| |Strawberry milkshake
    Green&Red|QB|Strawbs|Tusk|Strawberry milkshake
    Duffman|Trit|Sully|G&R|tusk
    Kolido|Tusk|QB|Baggly|quickbeam
    Clarabel|Trit|Tusk|Ecto|Strawberry milkshake
    QB|Baggly|Kitten|GNR|baggly
    Kitten|Tusk|Clarabel|Ecto|tusk
    Baggly|QB|Tusk||tusk
    Whip|QB|Clarabel|Tusk|Kitten_K

    So the following voted outside their FFAs:


    Sully
    Tritium (Villager)
    Duffman
    Clarabel
    Whippy


    At least Sully, Trit and Clara went for one of the four in the race (race was QB, GnR, Clara & Strawbs).


    @Duffers, @Whippy - why did you vote the way you voted?


    I think the order of the multiquotes are all over the place.

    Whipy G&R is village until yesterday then he has go.
    Hard to know if this is wolf protection cause generally there are not many posts over all


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    kitten_k wrote: »
    I’m back. Had a hospital appointment this morning and as usual the Irish health system doesn’t know how to run on time!!

    I’ve just checked to see if I’m alive. Gonna read this mornings posts now and see what’s happening.

    Was it you in hospital yesterday too? Hope all is good!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Whiplashy


    Clarabel wrote: »
    I think the order of the multiquotes are all over the place.

    Whipy G&R is village until yesterday then he has go.
    Hard to know if this is wolf protection cause generally there are not many posts over all

    I read him as village, I was wrong. Of course he had to go when I realized he was a wolf.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Whiplashy


    Clarabel wrote: »
    Was it you in hospital yesterday too? Hope all is good!

    That was me :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭kitten_k


    Clarabel wrote: »
    Was it you in hospital yesterday too? Hope all is good!

    No that was Whip. All ok just had to get an MRI, spent more time waiting than I did in the scanner!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    Whips - hope all good with you too!
    I've to go back to the GP after my accident last week but I am avoiding it - the queues. I'm hoping the pain is just going to go away


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Clarabel wrote:
    reading back is interesting, you've been on QB for a while. Who's your best guess as the other wolf? I assume you still on QB?


    I haven't decided who I'm on yet. Vote and interactions seems to indicate duffers and whipper.

    Gut and my own interactions says qb. Absence and contributions says kitten or Kolido.

    I need to decide which I'm going to follow.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    Can someone remind me why we think Whips is a wolf?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    Bags, GnR did an awful amount of protecting of you..before he called you and QB wolf yesterday. Any thoughts on that ?

    I'm working on pulling up the quotes for you now


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 35,024 ✭✭✭✭Baggly


    Yeah I think he was trying to pocket me tbh.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Whiplashy


    Clarabel wrote: »
    Whips - hope all good with you too!
    I've to go back to the GP after my accident last week but I am avoiding it - the queues. I'm hoping the pain is just going to go away

    All good here. I had 3 different appointments though so it took ages! I should be glad they at least try to coordinate my appointments I suppose. Don’t leave yourself in pain too long :)


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Clarabel wrote: »
    I will of course. I find it easier to reason against your analysis then to do it myself but I will.

    Did you give it a go? Anything to report?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    I got distracted by reading back...and with Rikard music reveal

    My thoughts are a little all over the place.
    I'm leaning towards there being a wolf between you and Bags. Stronger on you than Bags but GnR protection of Bags is hard to dismiss.

    Whips, i think is all your analysis - Whips I wish you could give me more here than just - ah lynch me. It's very lazy. if you are village you should be fighting. It;s not coming across as defeated wolf either

    Whips defended GnR too - which makes me lean towards her being wolf

    GnR is so hard to read back - you are so aggressive dude! Get some anger management classes


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    What exactly is making you think I'm wolf? Wolf on the same team as GnR, that is?

    I think anything GnR said after Ecto's munch can basically be ignored. There's loads of info from prior to that though.

    Actually, I wonder when they twigged Ecto as seer? If they did in the middle of a day, were they more careful about defending their team-mates once they knew that GnR would likely be found? Or did they never know she was seer and just got lucky? Or did they hope GnR wouldn't be found?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Whiplashy


    Clarabel wrote: »
    I got distracted by reading back...and with Rikard music reveal

    My thoughts are a little all over the place.
    I'm leaning towards there being a wolf between you and Bags. Stronger on you than Bags but GnR protection of Bags is hard to dismiss.

    Whips, i think is all your analysis - Whips I wish you could give me more here than just - ah lynch me. It's very lazy. if you are village you should be fighting. It;s not coming across as defeated wolf either

    Whips defended GnR too - which makes me lean towards her being wolf

    GnR is so hard to read back - you are so aggressive dude! Get some anger management classes

    I’m not fighting the lynch because I think you guys need to lynch me. We don’t want to end up with me still possibly a wolf at lylo because lynching me then will lose the game for the village.

    I’ve also already given you guys all I can to defend myself but it hasn’t changed your minds. A wolf doesn’t play the first lynch the way I did. A wolf doesn’t so adamantly defend G&R as it puts them up for lynch when he flips red. I’ve had a target on my back since trit claimed I was village and my very first post of the game said you guys would probably have to end up lynching me to be sure, and here we are. Also what wolf open tells you that you need to lynch them? I know I don’t make a great wolf but even I’d play a wolf better than that.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Whiplashy


    The way I see it you guys either lynch me now or accept that I’m village and get out of your tunnels


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    The wolf on same team as GNR I've not got - okay answering this now might help with read back.
    I tend to agree with some of Bags accusations on you .....throwing the votes, flipping (I'm not sure you have been), the clearing of yourself etc
    Which leads me to Bags and yourself are not on the same team.

    Bags and GnR could be wolves together - which could mean him tunneling you for a mislynch would be a good thing


    Why do you think they sussed ecto rather than a lucky guess?


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    I don't want to be in a tunnel. I've been looking elsewhere. I've not come up with anyone better. You haven't helped yourself as I don't see a lot of wolf-hunting from you myself.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    Whips - who are you wolves right now?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,288 ✭✭✭✭Kolido


    Whiplashy wrote: »
    The way I see it you guys either lynch me now or accept that I’m village and get out of your tunnels

    Guys I dont see whippy as wolf. They have 2 left. A red flip now could tell a lot. I've put myself forward for lynch before but only as a nrv. Its bad play for a wolf. Thats why I believe she is town. Coud also be seen as bad play for town with only one mislynch left.

    I wont be voting her.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,985 ✭✭✭Clarabel


    @QB who is that to?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,117 ✭✭✭Whiplashy


    Clarabel wrote: »
    Whips - who are you wolves right now?

    Gun to my head call would be kitten and duff.


  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Can't find it now, but somebody (Kolido, or Duffman I think) said above about how I found Ecto's clue re GnR so quickly.

    I searched on Ecto's name, sorted by newest and scanned through the posts to see what jumped out. This view only gives the first part of each post, so I didn't know if her clue would be more deeply buried. But page 5, I came across this:

    484484.PNG

    I clicked in to it, followed the quoted post back to her original, and that's how I found it. It wasn't hard. She did a good job sign-posting her peek. On first read, before I knew she was seer, it sounded like a random accusation, as we've all thrown around, but wolves, knowing she hit the nail on the head, it probably would have set off lightbulbs for them.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,249 ✭✭✭duffman13


    quickbeam wrote: »
    Can't find it now, but somebody (Kolido, or Duffman I think) said above about how I found Ecto's clue re GnR so quickly.

    I searched on Ecto's name, sorted by newest and scanned through the posts to see what jumped out. This view only gives the first part of each post, so I didn't know if her clue would be more deeply buried. But page 5, I came across this:

    484484.PNG

    I clicked in to it, followed the quoted post back to her original, and that's how I found it. It wasn't hard. She did a good job sign-posting her peek. On first read, before I knew she was seer, it sounded like a random accusation, as we've all thrown around, but wolves, knowing she hit the nail on the head, it probably would have set off lightbulbs for them.

    That was me, thanks for clarifying


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,318 ✭✭✭kitten_k


    quickbeam wrote: »
    The first one, probably clutching at straws here, but, this is right after Ecto's munch:




    Then reaction to Ecto's munch:



    Clara queries this with him, quoting his first post above, and bolding the "GNR knows...." sentence:



    Bags says he posted as soon as he saw sKeith had posted but only read it later:



    So, my observation:
    (1) I think Bags is calling out GnR in his first post, and as GnR turns out to be a wolf, this is to his, Bags' credit.
    (2) but, why did Bags post without reading? Was it just an error in judgement, or was it a case that he knew that he himself wasn't the munchee and that it was safe to do so?

    G&R did the same after Trits munch as far as I can remember. Would the wolves be silly enough to do that twice?
    Clarabel wrote: »
    My really stupid STUPID remark yesterday about QB was to try avoid her getting munched. Wolves tend to take people doing the work and I selfishly didn't want you gone. Someone called me out on it last night and I felt really stupid.

    Spend time today looking me up, but I am not the wolf, I'm gone completely at 2pm and won't be able to defend further. So let's get this out the way now please?

    As long as QB and Baggly are fighting with each other I cannot see either of them being munched as it is causing a distraction for the wolves. If you are viallger be careful doing things like that or it could be you dying in her place.
    Clarabel wrote: »
    Person D2 up to 6pm D2 at lynch Posted D2 6pm - 10pm D3 6pm D3 Open to 6pm D3 lynch D3 6pm to lynch
    Whiplashy 51 62 11 64 2 71 7 Low enough poster, actually increased at lynch
    duffman13 33 43 10 48 5 54 6 Steady low poster
    sullivlo dead dead dead 62 dead 63 1 sad
    Kolido 20 26 6 37 11 39 2 generally low poster but drops off the earth last night
    kitten_k 29 35 6 57 22 57 0 generally low poster but drops off the earth last night
    Green&Red 120 132 12 159 27 162 3 caught wolf not posting
    Clarabel 77 115 38 147 32 155 8 I guess there wasn't a huge amount to say last night
    Baggly 92 92 0 146 54 146 0 ballsport *frown*
    quickbeam 160 198 38 266 68 280 14 I guess there wasn't a huge amount to say last night

    I am never around in the evenings much but this week especially due to RL stuff. It's a battle I have each game!
    Clarabel wrote: »
    I'd rather mislynch on duff or K than you, if I am honest. I've stonger feelings that you are wolf.

    You should go who you think is most wolfy! Catch a wolf, kill a wolf.
    Whiplashy wrote: »
    Well I’ve not put in a vote so that if you guys want to lynch me we can get to majority quicker. I’ll happily vote for any of those four if that’s what the village decides, but I’m not going to try and self pres because at this stage it may be more helpful to the village to confirm my green flip. I’ll go with what the majority want.

    I can't tell if you are a village trying to help or a wolf trying make people think you are a villager by offering to be lynched.
    duffman13 wrote: »
    Can you clarify what you mean here? Sounds like you feel whippy is more wolfy but would rather mislynch me or Kolido first?

    My thoughts on it are simple, lynch Whippy, if she's wolf then lynch me to get this "connection" off the table. However it's then LYLO, I'm not a wolf and lynching me comes back green but I'm thinking whippy is possibly a wolf.

    Caveat to the above is whippy could say the exact same about me.

    Just want to make it clear - if Whip flips green - this does not automatically clear you!
    Clarabel wrote: »
    NO NO, I definetly think that Whips is a wolf! Right now.

    However you posted last night about warming up to her and also she seems to be pleading her case this morning. If what she is saying is true - that we should mislynch her to get rid of the discussion, then I would we waste the mislynch on K or Duff.

    I;ve two things to do.
    1. read the arguments Bags had yesterday
    2. Vote analysis with new info

    Interesting choice of words! What villager would want to waste a mis-lynch!
    quickbeam wrote: »
    Seriously! If I was a wolf, why would I not just put all effort in to Whip and Duff. Two mislynches required, there they are? I'm not a wolf. I'm well aware of how close to LYLO we are, and wanting to avoid this. I want to get this right. A wolf wouldn't care, and just let those two hang.

    You haven't been around much. Maybe you should be and put in some effort to actually finding the wolves!

    Em I don't think you can ever play the effort card again QB :D
    Baggly wrote: »
    Post from the Jack's.

    My issue with going after whipper and duffer is if we go after one tonight for lynch and they flip village where are we.

    Keep going after the other one regardless?

    The votes won't tell us anything if we go after them. So we will be in the same position tomorrow with largely the same info.

    I think there is a wolf that has been sitting back. I'd be amazed if there were two loud wolves*

    Kitten, whipper, kolido. They are the sit back people. One wolf in there I think.

    The other in the mid group. Duffers clara.

    *unless it's qb. And I wouldn't put it past her given how she has won games before.

    If people are posting from the Jack's they don't need to tell us!!
    Clarabel wrote: »
    Whips - hope all good with you too!
    I've to go back to the GP after my accident last week but I am avoiding it - the queues. I'm hoping the pain is just going to go away

    Go to the doctor - Kitten's orders!!
    Whiplashy wrote: »
    I’m not fighting the lynch because I think you guys need to lynch me. We don’t want to end up with me still possibly a wolf at lylo because lynching me then will lose the game for the village.

    I’ve also already given you guys all I can to defend myself but it hasn’t changed your minds. A wolf doesn’t play the first lynch the way I did. A wolf doesn’t so adamantly defend G&R as it puts them up for lynch when he flips red. I’ve had a target on my back since trit claimed I was village and my very first post of the game said you guys would probably have to end up lynching me to be sure, and here we are. Also what wolf open tells you that you need to lynch them? I know I don’t make a great wolf but even I’d play a wolf better than that.

    Considering how close we are to end game - if you are a villager then you really need to fight being mis-lynched as it is too close!


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  • Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 16,287 Mod ✭✭✭✭quickbeam


    Clarabel wrote: »
    The wolf on same team as GNR I've not got - okay answering this now might help with read back.
    I tend to agree with some of Bags accusations on you .....throwing the votes, flipping (I'm not sure you have been), the clearing of yourself etc
    Which leads me to Bags and yourself are not on the same team.

    Bags and GnR could be wolves together - which could mean him tunneling you for a mislynch would be a good thing


    Why do you think they sussed ecto rather than a lucky guess?

    throwing the votes - yeah okay, fair enough, but I voted where I thought the wolf was, rather than just following a wagon. If I'd followed a wagon, I'd definitely have been voting off villagers (Strawbs, Tusk) as it is, I might just have been voting for a wolf, I don't know. I'm actually leaning away now from both of those I voted for.

    flipping - not a wolf trait, just being open to all possibilities, trying not to tunnel

    clearing yourself - you mean by claiming Ecto had N0ed me? I did say it could be wishful thinking, and was open to other finds, and was very happy that it was more likely Sully once that info was shown to me.


    If Bags and GnR are on a wolf team, what do you think about GnR voting for Bags in lynch 2?


    I literally don't know if they sussed Ecto or if was a lucky guess. I was merely saying if they had sussed her, then maybe there was a change of posting style around the time they did suss her.


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